The left is lying so bad that I don't even feel like countering it

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The left and the media has always lied, but the lies since the riots have started have been insane.

Some of the main ones are:

  • "Peaceful protests"

  • Joe Biden condemns violence

  • Trump is the one inciting violence

  • "White supremacists burned down MN"

I see these threads or posts and I don't even know where to start with them. I don't even believe someone could be blind enough at this point to think it. I think they are straight up lying, and I hate to argue with liars.

I feel like the lies are so bad that even doing anything but ignoring them give them credibility that they don't deserve.

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[–]lothrop_evola 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Back in the 20th century the media could lie all day long and nobody was able to stop them. Now, thanks to social media, the lies are being exposed and mocked within hours of being published. But social media is also widening the rift between Democrats & Republicans because most people are getting their news in echo chambers that fuels anger towards the other side.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I force myself to watch Rachel Maddow (ok, the lede), Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, et al after Tucker just to see the difference. Might as well be two different universes being discussed.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The mainstream media these days is so bad I only can handle it digested and regurgitated by Tim Pool.

Real Leftists at least claim to see the same facts only distorted by their bizarro world lens.

We all know Nazis burned books but did you know they weren't just any books - that they were books about transgender ideology? Oh Em Gee how could they be so evil!!!

[–]ShiversRussia2017 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you have the chance, decisively refute them. If you keep repeating a lie to the public,eventually they will take it as truth. If you do refute them make sure it is in space where moderates,independents and other right wingers are largely numerous, if it is in a far left circlejerk you are just wasting your time.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one believes that bullshit anymore.

[–]VarangianRasputin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I get this.

Sometimes, you're just typing out a rebuttal to some post you found on Twitter, or reddit or some other shit, but just before you hit the submit button, you think to yourself, 'Do I REALLY want to be doing this right now? Do I really want to have the same argument again?'. The vast majority of the time you're just yelling into empty space anyway, as they just tend to respond with AdHoms and the like. It's gotten to the point that on Twitter, which I don't use much nowadays, I barely argue anymore, I just act facetious and troll them while they scream at a screen about how I'm a bed-wetter and how I deserve to die, etc.

We can't save people who don't want to be saved, and these Twitter mobs are the minority anyhow.

[–]Erasmus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see these threads or posts and I don't even know where to start with them.

I know the feeling. I don't understand how a human being with the capability of being able to search out and evaluate competing information claims can possibly come out believing the literal insanity of the left these days.

I saw a Twitter thread the other night where a woman was ranting against Trump and saying that citizens had the right to peacefully protest. Someone posted one of the many compilations of Minneapolis after the riots, with gas stations and apartment buildings and grocery stores on fire, as well as block after block of smoldering rubble that looked as if a bomb had hit it.

"How do I even know that's real?" the Twitterer wrote. "You can make a video that shows anything."

Totally disconnected from reality.