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[–]Nombre27 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Any talk on the left about being compassionate is either a lie because it comes from someone with actual power, or it's from someone that does mean it but doesn't have any power.

It's just used to divide people that are more empathetic from people that are more pragmatic. It creates a them and us situation.

Basically they like to talk out of both sides of their mouth because it feeds into people's confirmation bias where they accept, agree and remember the thing their political representative said that they liked, and they ignore and forget anything counter to that. They're like children.

If they're talking like that to an opponent then it's simply to disarm and weaken them. Don't be stupid and believe a single thing these people say to you.

[–]NeoRail 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's only rational. One of the oldest tricks in the liberal book has been to claim the moral high ground, justifying any and all repression in the name of the greater good. The Terror of the French Revolution was justified more or less exactly in these terms. The abandonment of "compassion" does not actually mean abandoning compassion as a value - it means abandoning compassion for "the enemy" in favour of ruthless and merciless repression, unrestrained by any principle that would be considered normal or primary to a liberal or leftist morality. The abandonment of civility is not a concession of the moral high ground, but the opposite - an usurpation of every right to freedom of thought, belief and action. "We are good and you are evil, therefore hesitation and compassion for you is also evil." This is more or less the idea behind it. There's no "rebellion" there at all, no scorn for the powerful - it is a demand for absolute power.

As to the practical side of it, you can see for yourself what a poor fit for its proponents it really is. Essentially, it boils down to a bunch of spoilt rich kids larping as an exaggerated caricature of what they believe to be "the common people"; as a sort of hoodlums. Everything about these people is fake. I doubt they have a feeling for vulgarity or even much exposure to it, they are just a bunch of overgrown kids that are still trying to rebel against the clean, comfortable and secure environment daddy worked so hard to give them. There's a long tradition of this on the American left, especially since the so-called 60s counterculture. If you read up on the backgrounds, lifestyles and stories of some of these people, it's almost unbelievable.

In regards to how effective this will be, it remains to be seen. I think it's a huge mistake for the left to abandon their "high optics" style. Since its inception, liberalism has been a form of moral tyranny that disallows every alternative because it is "evil". The masses have been internalising this message for a long time. Maybe the social situation in the West has declined so much by now that the left can afford this ridiculous and unprecedented overreach, but I think it's extremely risky for them to be attempting this right now, when it seems like liberalism is in crisis on all fronts - demographic, economic, popular, political, geostrategic and so on. If they can successfully pull this off, they may end up establishing something very similar to a perpetual Maoist cultural revolution, except liberal in character. Personally though, I think the much more likely scenario is that they will instead destroy whatever is left of political normalcy and alongside that the entire Overton window. In the end, it will probably come down to how gullible the last two generations will prove to be and how strong an advantage leftist propaganda will have. If the Left gains a total and absolute monopoly on all information flow and the masses end up defaulting to conformism over realism in every scenario, then a zealous and intolerant left will probably succeed in destroying the last vestiges of democracy in favour of some sort of woke, moralist neoliberalism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very good post.

"If you read up on the backgrounds, lifestyles and stories of some of these people, it's almost unbelievable."

Have any examples of this? I'm curious. Although I have recently seen a personal complaint in a blog about that "AntiFash Gordon" guy. But I'm always curious about how these people think.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look into the so-called "Days of Rage", the Weather Underground, etc. These leftist groups were run by spoilt brats who not only knew they were unpopular with the working class, but openly hated them. Some of the people involved with those movements are currently working in law or academia despite their extremely criminal past. It's completely beyond belief.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's just radical libtardism with jewish vulgarity masquerading as socialism IE Chapo Trap House

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    [–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I always viewed the compassion thing as kind of BS. I personally found lefties no more or less compassionate than ordinary conservatives(im not counting koch brothers type conservatives or neocons).

    The appeal of the left for me was simply that they were simply more likely to be right. They were right on the environment, right on supply side economics, deregulation, usually right on foreign policy and right wing war mongering, right on tax cuts for the ultra wealthy etc. There were few if any concrete policies that conservatives were right on.

    What changed for me was the left cast aside all those issues to focus on black victimology and identity politics, white hatred, mass immigration, and an increasing accepting of a neocon foreign policy and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. They also became balls to the wall pro censorship. In other words all the things Jews focus on.

    After the election of Trump, liberal jews were increasingly dissatisfied with the left's pacifism and sought to weaponize the left to go after their perceived enemies on what they label the "far right". Hence the birth of the dirtbag left and the prominence of antifa and the violent intolerant left.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They're just anti social losers who've she'd the facade of respectability. They're just more honest liberals