Trump Supporters being harassed at rally in DC.

submitted by send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist from self.debatealtright

It's incredible the restraint these folks are showing. Flags stolen, water thrown on them, flag poles being stolen and turned into weapons, even a sign saying 'punch maga in the face' with hundreds of leftists marching behind it. Insanity.

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene

https://twitter.com/livesmattershow

edit. man hit from behind.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1327765440001503232

edit 2. Link to streamable clips

https://saidit.net/s/altrightwebm/comments/6tm8/1114_maga_march_streamable_clips/

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Great numbers at the rally. Well done.

Even Alt-Lite types and MAGAtards are getting openly angry about Trump's lack of anything while his people bleed in the street.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How many turned out?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure of the exact numbers but I've seen some photos and it looks genuinely impressive. It was no mickey mouse Biden/Harris turn out there.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://twitter.com/JoeyCamp2020/status/1327794685704736768

Hilton Hotel won't allow those who went to MAGA march to stay at their hotels and are using Covid as an excuse. Free market at work again but conservatives will still keeping cucking for corporations and pretending the issue with the Left is their economics views.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

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[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The guy deleted it for some reason. Maybe his information was wrong.

[–]sylla94 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

when does too much restraint become a bad thing? the simultaneous worst and better things about decent people is how tolerant i.e endurant of awful behaviour they are. they don't appreciate people attacking them or rigging elections or looting and burning down their cities or raping and murdering and beheading their family's, but when do they actually do something about it?

for this maga march optics is probably still king, though. the scumbag media can't be permitted anything overtly violent from the right, even if it's retaliatory

[–]Wrangel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem is lack of coorindation on the ground. The US protestors are really stuck in a mentality of the one strong man who is going to take out antifa. I can't believe that I have watched videos for 4 years of individuals or tiny groups walk through a mob of antifa and either get beaten up or end up using so much violence that they end up in prison.

NEVER EVER LEAVE A PROTEST BY YOURSELF.

Always leave in a large group. There were hundreds of thousands of people at the rally. Why leave in a group smaller than 100? If there is a large group of you antifa isn't going to engage. Antifa never attacks unless they greatly outnumber you. In large fights you don't have to resort to excessive force simply using the momentum of the crowd to push back antifa works.

The rally is the easy part, the part that requires planning is getting there and getting home. You need to meet your friends outside of town and travel to the rally together and you need to leave the rally together and leave the city together and only split up when you are absolutely sure that you are far away from antifa.

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    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    There were some reports on your comment but I'm leaving it up. You're clearly not calling for killing people. You're just talking about the past. A past that had far fewer Jew lawyers willing to litigate and extract wealth from whites out of every human aggressive interaction. The meme that all human life matters is one of the most insidious forms of psychological programming foisted upon whites by their oligarch slave masters. Black lives should matter to black communities (and they clearly don't). White lives should matter to white communities but All lives absolutely do NOT matter.

    The only thing I'd slightly correct is calling what we currently have in the west a 'civilization'. I think we are already in a failed state that is rapidly losing it's 'civilized' status. One marker that many ancient civilizations of that past had is a respect for ethnic lines, tribalism, natural law and hierarchy. Our current society seems hellbent on dysgenics and committing ethnic genocide against high trust low crime white people simply for being white. I don't call that civilization. It's a kill box. It's a slave pen. It's a fun house full of mirrors designed to gaslight and demoralize you and turn you into a hedonic nihillistic dope.

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      [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      A man's dignity and reputation should be guarded with his life.

      In the case of blacks, resorting to violence with those rednecks is just proving them right and destroying your reputation. Fulfilling the stereotype essentially, which many blacks will do as you say and fight them but I imagine the higher IQ ones have to take the abuse for a higher value. This was the power behind MLK's non-violence movement that influenced much of the progress blacks made towards equal rights.

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        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Damn. You got me.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Well said. I strongly agree.

        [–]sylla94 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        in the case that you're being sardonic; "killing" is a strong word. even vocal outrage would be better than what we have now

        [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        On twitter I have seen an over abundance of the usual "ANTIFA and BLM are fascists/Nazis" from conservatives. I have seen tons of stuff like this - www.twitter.com/scottisbell_/status/1327804300643479552

        It seems it is mainly the left that gets triggered by these comments as I rarely see them critiqued from the right on twitter. They rationalize this because of "socialism". Hitler had social policies so therefore BLM and Antifa are just like fascism and Nazis. They still pretend the issue with the Left is economics and worshipping capitalism is patriotism yet global capital is just as much if not more an enemy of the nation as these Neo Bolshevik in the streets.

        I really get tired of this stuff and don't know why so many supposed dissidents want to align themselves with such a crowd.

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

        The man you posted who was hit from behind started the fight punching numerous people, you can see the whole video here:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jub451/magas_outnumbered_in_dc/

        Go to 43 seconds, you can see when he runs up and starts the fight. Wasn't the leftists.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

        I've seen the whole video. It's not the only incident. He's also surrounded by antifa. It's doesn't matter how aggressive he is. It's not enough. You have to show extreme force if you're surrounded by people that hate you and want to hurt you. You sound like you've never been in a fight. Watch all the videos from tonight. It's 95% antifa people stalking MAGA supporters trying to go to and from the rally. Did you not see the 'punch a maga' sign with scores of people behind it??

        Of course I don't expect good faith from you on this topic. I've seen your post history.

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Rationalize him hitting people first however you want. I'm only posting the full video and mentioning facts.

        You have to show extreme force if you're surrounded by people that hate you and want to hurt you.

        He didn't need to run towards them. His violence in this moment was unnecessary and plain stupid.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Rationalize him hitting people first however you want.

        ANTIFA has openly declared they want to 'punch' maga people and they surrounded him. He's also clearly walking away from the crowd as they follow him down the street. These people clearly identified themselves in antifa garb. He had the legal and moral right to do a LOT more to them. So are you telling me that if a Jew was surrounded and followed by 20 beefy brown shirt national socialists that just left a rally where they declared they wanted to punch Jews (and had a sign that said 'punch jews') the Jew is being aggressive by preemptively defending himself?

        [obviously I don't believe national socialists were thugs but I'm just trying to make a point and using the evil 'nazi' trope is the only way to get through to thick headed leftists like yourself]

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        There was police present in the video he could've went towards instead (Go to 53 seconds).

        But the Jew in your hypothetical shouldn't do something as idiotic as to run into the crowd of national socialists. This would've also worked out much better in favor of the right if the entire video showed Antifa/BLM initiating the physical violence. Instead we see multiple Trump supporters at the 43 second mark ganging up on a guy with a megaphone.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        But the Jew in your hypothetical shouldn't do something as idiotic as to run into the crowd of national socialists.

        You know there was a MAGA rally in DC right? These people didn't show up to chase Antifa. They are going to a political event. Antifa showed up to chase trump supporters as they transitioned from their hotel to the rally. How do you not know this?

        if the entire video showed Antifa/BLM initiating the physical violence.

        There are hundreds of videos emerging (many on the same street and same time) of antifa doing just that. Following, circling, cursing, Stealing flags, throwing water, taking flags poles and turning them into weapons, assault older folks, etc. I've linked these videos on my post. I can't force you to watch them. I'm sure you probably have and you're just trying to win a debate on bad faith argument (a pattern you've shown very clearly and a pattern that will soon get you banned). I will let readers decide.

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        There are hundreds of videos emerging (many on the same street and same time) of antifa doing just that.

        Sure, and they are wrong for doing so. But this isn't in the incident we are discussing.

        I've linked these videos on my post. I can't force you to watch them. I'm sure you probably have and you're just trying to win a debate on bad faith argument

        I'll watch the others, but to be honest this bad faith accusation/rule seems like a catch all to get rid of people with opposing viewpoints (in a community supposed to be about debate) based on baseless or weak claims considering you say stuff like:

        Of course I don't expect good faith from you on this topic. I've seen your post history.

        Without mentioning any examples of what you consider "bad faith".

        [–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        What tells you that he wasn't beaten before the start of the video?

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Because the only evidence shows him running up to the crowd punching someone.

        [–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I single person going around assaulting a group seems pretty unrealistic for me, he was probably assaulted multiple times and eventually decided to fight back, I've seen it happen coutless of times and right wingers were never the ones who atatcked first.

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        single person going around assaulting a group seems pretty unrealistic for me

        Wasn't alone. He was with 2 other people when he hit the first guy:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jub451/magas_outnumbered_in_dc/

        You can see two of the three (including him) hit the leftist at 43 seconds.

        [–]arainynightinskyrim 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        He pushes a guy, the mob push him and start hitting him multiple times and one of them sucker punches him, he's not the one in the wrong here in my opinion.