How to have good, trad, LTR oriented dates?

Talmudstein · 2021-01-26T11:15:04+00:00

1) Dating isn't "trad" by any past society's standards (Ancient Greece, Rome, the Germanic pagans, Christianity) and there is nothing conservative about promiscuity (what exactly are you conserving by being "promiscious"? your dignity? your virginity? what?). We should ideally return to a more chivalric culture of proposals and arranged marriages.

2) Any Christian person (male or female) who engages in pre-marital sexual activity, whether flirting, kissing, touching or sexual penetration (especially in a passage other than their vagina), is disobeying the clearly-stated religious laws of their holy texts and their validity of being a "conservative Christian" is laughable.

Ethnocrat · 2021-01-26T23:23:07+00:00

Approach women in real life, not online.

NeoRail · 2021-01-26T16:49:32+00:00

You should take this type of posts to the redpill subreddit or wherever else is appropriate. If you are really looking for feedback here, then all I can tell you is to stop clowning around and act normal rather than putting up a special show for "conservative" girls. If you are looking for a long term relationship, then you will want to be authentic even more than when you're with "sloots", unless you want to keep putting on a show for the next 50 years or whatever.

Comatoast · 2021-01-27T01:30:30+00:00

Sometimes you have to give women time. Sometimes being overly touchy is too strong and comes off as gross and offputting. If someone invited me to their place, I wouldn't have thought twice about the sexual undertones about sitting on the bed vs the chair. The bed is more comfortable, and I'm not there to be uncomfortable. Understand that some conservative women will judge you for your partner count, and have similar standards that you would for them. Understand that meeting women from anywhere can go any which way, because we're not all sharing the same subconscious. You're going to have to learn to read the room. Using tinder or any hookup app is asking for the opposite of "trad". "Trad" is a fucking meme now, and you're going to have people that have taken on that lifestyle with a shitty, less than wholesome background, -see- all the tradthots on Twitter. For dates, think of places or activities that you've learned you both enjoy through the extensive conversation you had beforehand. Walking around in a populated park, going to an arboretum (spare me, that might not be the word), or just going to get ice cream/cafe. Keep it fun, light. You're not there to get her pants down, you're there to get to know eachother.

Courbeaux · 2021-01-27T00:45:44+00:00

Find a based tradthot who has a lot of Nazi and Odinist tattoos. Preferably one who lives in a trailer park and has felony convictions.

(By the way, I'm not joking and fuck you if you think this ironic.)

ifuckredditsnitches_ · 2021-01-26T03:53:31+00:00

Nobody looking for dick on an app is trad, meet your wife somewhere else

literalotherkin · 2021-01-26T08:19:37+00:00

You sound like you've read a lot of Game stuff and now you're coming here asking someone to write down what you should do but much like playing a sport the best way to learn is to do.

I actually don't know how people go on dates TBH. I feel that's a very American thing. It's so forced. I've never been on a date in my life -- my longest term GF was literally passing me on the street and I struck up a conversation -- and don't know how you can handle that.

Best of luck though. Try not to overthink it.

asterias · 2021-01-26T15:39:30+00:00

Eventually her friend called her and she left

Sounds like she had this prepared beforehand.

Anyway, tt's not clear what you are trying to accomplish here. And you probably have too much faith in females being able to make a conscious decision without getting carried away by their "feelings".

cisheteroscum · 2021-01-28T06:29:18+00:00

This is off-topic but I'll give a late answer

How to have good, trad, LTR oriented dates?

I don't have a lot of advice in this specific regard, because I've never really dated what I'd consider truly "conservative" girls. NGL, unless you grew up around a conservative community / live in a conservative area meeting a legit "trad" girl is gonna be tough for a lot of people.

I've been using two dating apps

Always try to meet girls in real-life settings if possible. Real social proof is way more powerful than a tinder profile. I haven't used dating apps in years - but I hear they are way worse now

I'm a trad rightist who isn't trying to put any effort into finding "plates."

1) do not describe yourself as a "trad-rightist" to anyone IRL (I assume you don't do this) 2) You don't have to take TRP up to 10, but women generally like men with confidence and (implicit) experience.

I don't know how old you are or how much experience you have - but you might want to table the "trad rightist" approach for later and adopt something more suitable in the short-term. Inevitably, you have to adapt to dominant social norms on some level. Hanging out / banging sluttier girls can be a good way to build yourself up. You don't have to do it forever, and virginity is really only a virtue for women. Practically speaking, in today's society

I only text for logistics because honestly I hate texting

I don't either but texting can be a fun/important tool. At least put some playful texts out there to lighten the mood before the first date. Remember, she's probably more anxious than you are. Alleviating that anxiety is gonna put you on good track for when you actually meet in person

I just find it immoral to screw on the first date

While I didn't fuck them I did try to get them naked and even have them blow me

Lol wtf. You've got some weird morals, my dude. Regardless, a "conservative chick" is absolutely not going to get naked and blow you on the first night. I expect, for a "conservative" date, a couple drinks, some conversation/jokes, a game or movie, and maybe some kissing if it's obvious she wants it. If not, just try for one when she leaves. That's it. Talk to her tomorrow and get a feel for how it went

Honestly, the best first date you can have IMO is simply drinks. Not even dinner, just drinks at happy hour. In fact, have "plans" afterward such that you literally only have that much time. Work, activity, etc. It gives both of you an "out", makes you look like a busy/desireable person, without a need to force it back to anyone's place. This means there's no pressure to do anything afterward, or awkward tension to that effect. You can also amend plans if things go well - e.g., "I'll tell them I'll be late" or whatever.

Also, early on at some point, have a get together with other friends. For instance, a football game (yes, ritualistically watching niggerball on the jewtube is degenerate - but hear me out). Girls want to see that you have friends, and how you interact with them. It also gives both of you something else to focus on besides each other. It's more fun, there's less awkwardness, and you can learn more about each other and what you have in common when more conversations are happening. Esp. if you're dating a conservative chick, you'll be investing long-term so that kind of stuff is important

Previously I just sat girls down and started kissing them without much previous touch

Sounds jarring. You should initiate physical contact beforehand in a way that could be platonic but lasts a little too long or errs on the bolder side. Then read her reaction and do/don't escalate from there. Eye contact is important too

if she liked being petted and started rubbing her arm when she said yeah

Bro. Just put your hand on her leg as you're watching the movie

Should I have just skipped to the kiss?

Compared to that? Yes

TRP lays a lot of good foundations and tells some necessary hard truths on women - but it's also kind of a cult for psychopaths and perpetual obessive self-improvers. Take what elements work, don't forget what you've learned, and try to apply them appropriately to a real girl you meet in IRL - and not some nightmarishly hyperbolistic version of femoid you read horror stories about online

Reality is, finding and dating a truly trad girl is gonna be hard for a lot of people. You'll be better off converting some of the more middle-road chicks out there after investing in a relationship with them over time. I wouldn't be such a stickler to "trad" dating strategies, whatever those are. You'll come off as stiff and unfun, and probably not genuine. We live in a kind of modern Babylon - and no one guy is going to reify 1950s-era attitudes towards dating, assuming that's what he even wants. Rome wasn't built in a day, and modern degenerate attitudes - esp., in the mind of a ypical woman - aren't going to be reversed until we've had at least a decade or so of mass-media control. Or social reorganization, or civilizational collapse, maybe. Fact is, you're gonna have to do the best you can with this shitty world we inherited.

Also - some of your faux-pas or misfortunes are not so much personal as they are universally funny. The one chick ended up being fat, so you didn't bang her? "Lol" - happens to a lot of people. No reason to tell people online she called you an "asexual" to cope with the fact she was fat.

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