How Russia Wins the Climate Crisis.

submitted by EthnocratArcheofuturist from self.debatealtright

Interesting article in the New York Times about the geopolitical effects of climate change.

This quote stands out for me:

“One of the insights we got was that migration was just an absolute no-go zone,” Burke said.

The elites know they can't allow climate "refugees" to flood our countries. It will allow nativists to rise and remove them from power. This is why I think another major migrant crisis will end them, and they know it.

Article:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201216173035/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/16/magazine/russia-climate-migration-crisis.html

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In retrospect, if a climate crisis does happen, billions of people will be on the move anyway due to droughts/crops failing/collapsing infrastructure from extreme heat. But they wont make it to Europe all at once. India for example, their population could only try and walk across Pakistan. But that will immediately trigger a war with the Muslims.

Ultimately though, a climate migration only represents the end of the world. The people who live in 3rd world countries actually have the lowest carbon footprints. Moving them to 1st world will cause it to skyrocket 10x, since they'll now have regular access to cars, air conditioning, consume more meat whereas it was a luxury in their country. It wont benefit anyone, rich or poor.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The only part you are missing is that you imply 1st world conditions would stay 1st world. The current hyperconsumerist system is built upon mass farming and cheap third world industrial labour, the West would likely have a significant plummet in living standards itself.

It will be facing its own problems due to sea level rise, soil erosion (especially topsoil which will affect our ability to farm), wildlife and habitat loss due to rising temperatures and its own internal refugees (for example: most of Netherlands, parts of the American South and the Californian Central Valley and numerous Western coastal cities are predicted to be flooded by the end of the century). Additionally, with the growing inhabitability of the Third World as well, where most of the consumerist industry is located in countries like China, Bangladesh, India and South America, you could no longer have industry there.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

With Russia isn't their eastern half getting more and more chinese? I wonder if they'll try to annex part of it or have some kind of agreement to get access to arctic shipping lanes.

[–]Oingo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The issue is that China's facing a severe water shortage that will worsen if current climate trends continue. Couple that with perceived historical claims to the Vladivostok area, with its prominent water sources, makes tension between the two states unavoidable.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I heard they're gonna dam the Indian rivers and divert their water north. It'll have the two-fold benefit of crippling India and making them their bitch, and also irrigating the areas running out of water. India won't go to war with China over this I bet, the leadership are pussies.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. This is a myth. There are little to no Chinese coming to Russia considering that China's average income is higher than Russia.