If Jews can brainwash entire races to modify their behavior...

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

...then how exactly do we draw the line that environment is not more important than genetics?

For example, it is often said that Jewish control of the media, banks, government and education sector is what has lead to White people feeling demoralized and is an explanation for why the Western world is in decline (since no more Whites = no Civilization). But if such technology exists that no race can actually put up a fight against it, then why don't we see more arguments that say, we can lift people out of poverty and suffering if we simply brainwash them to leave the ghetto and fulfill a career?

In fact, think about this on a global scale. Genetics cannot be used to explain why nations fail, if we have White people who started off successful, but got "brainwashed" to go backwards. Would this not imply that their genes are like a light switch, and that any outside source could flick the part that determines success, instead of the idea they were actually born with a headstart and somehow meant to always prevail compared to others?

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[–]WhiteZealotWhite Nationalist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

An organism's genes determine how it reacts to external stimuli. Different races will have different reactions to the same stimuli. Whites are particularly vulnerable to the mode of attack the Jews are using against us (that's why they chose it), due to our genetic traits such as high trust and high empathy. Trying to defeat the black race by the same method would be much more difficult or impossible.

[–]wristaction 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This.

There is nothing which can be built which cannot also be dismantled.

A sophisticated thing can be dismantled by appropriately sophisticated means.

The dismantle-ability of a sophosticated thing by sophisticated means does not determine that it was not sophisticated.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trying to defeat the black race by the same method would be much more difficult or impossible.

Blacks and Hispanics give a larger portion of their wealth to charities than White Americans do.

https://bloomerang.co/blog/study-shows-higher-levels-of-charitable-giving-among-people-of-color

It's going to be impossible to name a single study that can directly measure "empathy" with no level of subjectivity whatsoever. For example, how do you measure empathy for war crimes? Japan was a slaughtering machine in WW2 yet today their nation would not even hurt a fly. Yet did Japanese genetics magically change in 50+ years? Lol no.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Black communities have some of the oldest and most deeply entrenched identity-based funds (e.g., Black United Funds, foundations affiliated with civic and fraternal organizations, and giving circles) that are created, led, and supported by community members.

These institutions allow for collective giving, simplify the giving process, and serve as brokers between donors and recipient organizations. This collective support around giving may create certain norms and standards for how families give.

Non-Whites give a larger proportion of their income... to their own ethnic activists. I think White people might give at least as much to Whites-only charities, but these are effectively illegal.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In non-white people's defense, you have to remember they were historically banned from receiving the same state benefits as white people. So yeah, they're going to donate to themselves. But also because they didn't receive the GI Bill after serving in WW2. Or many had their property confiscated and put in internment camps like the Japanese. If you were White 75 years ago, you weren't being suppressed just for being the wrong skin color.

That said, I believe all races today should be able to support their own ethnic interests. So go ahead and donate to British Orphanages, or relief efforts in war torn Ukraine. I found at least one White charity hat doesn't appear to illegal.

https://www.ucc.ca/2020/05/20/ukrainian-canadian-community-launches-new-initiative-to-support-children-in-ukraine/

[–]antireddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

While their brainwashing certainly seems successful, it's hard to say just how successful it really is, since counter views are simply censored and people who express them vanished from public view through blacklisting, deplatforming, censorship, and threats. The alt right was becoming enormously popular before they set out using all the tools at their disposal in silencing it. This popularity didnt vanish, it simply got censored.

Younger people do seem noticeably dumber as well as increasingly conformist, but this could have as much to do with dysgenics as propaganda. Jews themselves seem to be getting dumber so its pretty much an across the board dumbing down with Asians being a possible exception. Jews have even had to resort to blatant discrimination against Asians in University admissions in order to maintain their academic dominance as their children fall further behind Asians and can no longer compete.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

If we're having this conversation right now, then clearly it means they are successful. Because the alternative should imply Jews don't control everything, and White people have no one to blame for the current downfall? Tactics like censorship is what every group that is in power use, because they have the means to do so. For example, you would never argue the average Chinese citizen is more powerful than their government. They are censored constantly, but they lack any real power to reverse it (i.e Tiananmen Square protest ended in failure).

On your point about intelligence, if someone can be smart enough to build Hospitals or Railways, why can't they also figure out they will need children to look after them once they get really old? That right there is a contradiction. Keep in mind, building infrastructure are complex activities that require years of thought and creativity. Yet the idea of having children takes less than a second to plan or act out.

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Tactics like censorship is what every group that is in power use, because they have the means to do so.

Not really. Western Europe had free speech throughout the latter half of the 20th century and early 21st century. Anglo ruled America did as well up until very recently when Jews became the dominant power and managed to take over much of the internet.

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

Not sure what point you are making. Intelligence was once extremely important to success in passing on your genes. It isnt today and hasnt been for many generations.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not really. Western Europe had free speech throughout the latter half of the 20th century and early 21st century. Anglo ruled America did as well up until very recently when Jews became the dominant power and managed to take over much of the internet.

Are you talking unrestricted free speech? That's not true. Canada banned religions like the Jehovahs Witnesses in 1940 and I don't see any ruling that connects it with Jews.

Not sure what point you are making. Intelligence was once extremely important to success in passing on your genes. It isnt today and hasnt been for many generations.

We can't really call these people smart if they fail something so elementary. It begs the question of why would such genes exist in the first place, given that they form an evolutionary dead end.

It would actually put it in the same category as homosexuality, which is regarded as a defect as opposed to something biologically successful.

[–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you talking unrestricted free speech? That's not true. Canada banned religions like the Jehovahs Witnesses in 1940 and I don't see any ruling that connects it with Jews.

Nice strawman. Cherry pick some obscure example from one nation 80 years ago, and then ignore the broader point that white/anglo countries for the most part had free speech up until very recently when Jewish media/internet control and leverage grew to the point they could censor and deplatform critics with impunity and control the narrative.

We can't really call these people smart if they fail something so elementary. It begs the question of why would such genes exist in the first place, given that they form an evolutionary dead end.

From a strictly selfish pov, having children isnt necessarily smart. It requires sacrifice and lots of expense. The seductive appeal of the propaganda were talking about is that it appeals to hedonism and materialism. Who wants to pay for diapers when you could buy a new nintendo switch. Who wants to get married and raise a family when you can hook up on tinder and watch endless internet porn.

By the time people regret the decision not to have kids they are usually too old to do anything about it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice strawman. Cherry pick some obscure example from one nation 80 years ago, and then ignore the broader point that white/anglo countries for the most part had free speech up until very recently when Jewish media/internet control and leverage grew to the point they could censor and deplatform critics with impunity and control the narrative.

The ruling involved the Supreme Court and even a future Canadian Prime Minister. Not obscure at all.

From a strictly selfish pov, having children isnt necessarily smart. It requires sacrifice and lots of expense. The seductive appeal of the propaganda were talking about is that it appeals to hedonism and materialism. Who wants to pay for diapers when you could buy a new nintendo switch. Who wants to get married and raise a family when you can hook up on tinder and watch endless internet porn. By the time people regret the decision not to have kids they are usually too old to do anything about it.

Going to school requires a lot of sacrifice and expense. So does the act of building a hospital or laying train tracks. I'm sorry but even the hedonist argument doesn't justify intelligent people deciding to commit voluntary suicide. It ignores other arguments like children playing a role in looking after their parents when they become too sick, or even the fact having children offers government tax breaks.

If smart people also want to play video games all day or refuse to change diapers, there exists services meant to cover this. It's called daycare centers or private nannies.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If we're having this conversation right now, then clearly it means they are successful.

You'd be amazed at how few people you really need to blackmail or offer a Jewish wife in order to change policy. You don't need millions of whites on board with your program to change a population. At least not in a technology/industrialized era. Why do you think so many in the alt right promote the ideas of Uncle Ted? Technology is a powerful tool to enslave and change the genetics of a population if it falls into the wrong hands...

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree with this, but this actually supports my worldview that any group or race could be powerful if they muster the same energy. I see these examples already with mega corporations like Amazon or Walmart. They're not Jewish, but if they wanted to make the lives of millions of Americans miserable, it only takes one second for them to disrupt the supply chain of food, or crush competition.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if they muster the same energy.

And by 'muster the same energy' you mean latch onto a larger moral populace, practice violent subversion, ethnic warfare, genocide, child trafficking, etc.??

The bottom line is most fruits that you see from Jews come from theft and parasitism.

Jews long ago realized they can not stand alone as a people. Parasitism or perish is the motto of the Jew. (At least that is their core belief; who knows what they might accomplish if they choose to adopt more honor bound self sustaining moral philosophies).

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

No, this isn't always true. Selection pressures are extremely relaxed right now. You're conflating successful procreation with passing down good genes. Modernity is dysgenic in many ways. Modern medicine is dysgenic in giving the weak a second chance. Nature would not be so kind. Same goes for the modern welfare state subsidizing the lowest in our societies. I'm sure there's also other examples people can think of. Just look at Africa's population explosion from foreign aid. The population there is increasing through no advances of their own (other than mating more or having more of their children survive to adulthood).

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The selection pressure exists right now. If you get sick, who is going to look after you? Or if you buy a home, who is meant to inherit it if you accidently die? That's why I find calling these intelligent genes "successful" to be quite the oxymoron. Especially when we're talking about the same people who work on projects that can take an entire lifetime (i.e building highways/infrastructure) but somehow the challenge of replacing themselves with offspring is somehow "too hard". It would imply their intelligence is actually a defect, similar to how homosexuality gets passed down each generation but is still a dead end biologically. Are we really suppose to praise geniuses or interpret they are superior to other races when they themselves are volunteering to go extinct?

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The selection pressure exists right now.

The selection pressure for what exactly?

Your post is all over the place and pretty incoherent. It sounds like you're having a very scattered argument in your head.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The selection pressure for what exactly?

Your retirement. Japan is an example of what's going to happen soon if you don't address the replacement problem. The population is getting old, but they're also running into labor shortages. https://thediplomat.com/2019/11/how-does-japans-aging-society-affect-its-economy/

I recall before the Covid pandemic, the government was going into panic mode and even wanted to bring in more Filipino immigrants to act as a temporary bandaid. But they're going to run out of young people soon which is going to result in a crash in supporting the older population.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More immigrants will never be a viable solution to an aging population. They end up costing more in social services, they drive down wages, the amount of remittance that leaves the country grows. It actually makes things worse as it doesn't address the causes of these problems, namely the increased cost of living, again which more immigration just makes worse.

The government (and corporations) are threatened by downsizing and reduced tax revenue/profits, so they just kick the can down the road, i.e. what happens when all these new imports start drawing pensions and more social services or healthcare? Now they've just made that previous problem 10x worse, or whatever multiplicative effect it will be (it will be larger no matter what).

Anyway, you're still really all over the place. You stating that it's the selection pressure for retiring is not what a selection pressure is, or at least in common parlance.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anywhere there is Capitalism, there has to be growth. That's the nature of the game, unless you approve of economic contraction. Which to my knowledge, almost no one wants to be poor, everyone wants to be richer than they were yesterday. It's true that immigrants can be a burden and even take out money via welfare, but ultimately, you have to address who is going stand out in the hot sun everyday and keep the food supply chain going. Or how will you grow your tax base and pay for the increasingly dependent senior population at the same time?

So there's still a selection pressure: a shrinking economy will force people to give up their standard of living. And given how more people would rather buy from Amazon/Walmart rather than support higher priced but locally made goods, there's going to be a chaotic end to this episode.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

In fact, think about this on a global scale. Genetics cannot be used to explain why nations fail, if we have White people who started off successful, but got "brainwashed" to go backwards.

This is a non sequitiur. Whites being brainwashed is due to the genetics of Jews.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The comment was directed at White people, but I find it strange that a completely foreign group has the genetic information to dictate another?

Especially because this behavior can't be proven to be monolithic. Plenty of Jews are against Liberalism and Woke Culture. There also exists extreme differences in supporting Capitalism or Communism. Bernie Sanders who is Jewish, wants more government control. But Murray Rothbard, also a Jew, wants absolute free markets.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I find it strange that a completely foreign group has the genetic information to dictate another?

It isn't strange at all. Jews have higher verbal intelligence on average which they can use to deceive or influence. Intelligence is 80% heritable as an adult.

Plenty of Jews are against Liberalism and Woke Culture.

Doesn't matter because most aren't.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

It isn't strange at all. Jews have higher verbal intelligence which they can use to deceive or influence. Intelligence is 80% heritable as an adult.

So anyone with high verbal intelligence is a liar? How are the two directly related? Do high verbal white people lie to themselves?

Doesn't matter because most aren't.

Then it's not really Jewish genes that cause this, if we can find examples that vary greatly within the same group. 83% of Orthodox Jews were staunch Trump supporters. That can't be just an accident. It coincides with other heavily religious groups like Mormons who are at 71%.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

How are the two directly related?

It explains why they have the capability to brainwash/influence whites. We already know they do use it to their advantage and are ethnocentric.

Then it's not really Jewish genes that cause this, if we can find examples that vary greatly within the same group.

Outliers are irrelevant, I'm having to repeat the same thing to you.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It explains why they have the capability to brainwash/influence whites.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Outliers are irrelevant, I'm having to repeat the same thing to you.

Being woke is not a requirement for being Jewish. Just like how School Shooters are not a requirement for being White, despite making up the majority. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

Given U.S culture and history, it can be theorized why many Jews lean left. Especially if we're talking immigrants/new arrivals, the Democratic Party provides the fastest way to access the country. But this is also reflected in other ethnic groups. Asians in the U.S also heavily vote Democrat, even though their home countries are pretty Conservative. We don't blame this effect on any genes.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Being woke is not a requirement for being Jewish.

I'm not gonna repeat myself for a third time. You're creating strawmans now which among other things leads me to believe you're debating in bad faith. In any case I'm not going to continue this waste of time.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not gonna repeat myself for a third time.

Or you could have read the rest of my post instead of stopping right there. You also haven't answered how does high verbal IQ make someone a liar.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because this is a ridiculous strawman and you know it. You're not an honest person. You're probably Jewish, which is why you spend so much time carrying water for Jews here.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well someone called me Jewish but another person called me low IQ. So which one is it? Are dumb people also just as capable of lying with great success? You don't even need to be a genius to lie, kids do it all the time before they even go to school....

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He didn't say high verbal IQ makes people liars. He said Jews have high verbal IQ which gives them the capacity to lie at advanced level. Jews are liars for more reasons than the fact they have the capacity to lie.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So anyone with high verbal intelligence is a liar? How are the two directly related? Do high verbal white people lie to themselves?

This is a really stupid response to what was said. You're not being charitable or even attempting to interpret what was said in it's proper context. You really ought to stop doing this.

High verbal intelligence would give someone who wanted to be nefarious and lie, a greater possibility of doing so. When you combine that with the paranoia of many Jews, the MSM control and constant gaslighting about everything makes a lot more sense.

83% of Orthodox Jews were staunch Trump supporters. That can't be just an accident.

u/Soylent literally answered this in your very quote. Do you not know how to think?

Great, 83% of Orthodox Jews voted for Trump, but they're only like 10% of the Jewish population. If you knew how to properly form thoughts you would have considered this fact. It falls right in line with what u/Soylent said about demographics, which you just doubly ignored.

Doesn't matter because most aren't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism#Demographics

The second largest Orthodox concentration is in the United States, mainly in the Northeast and specifically in New York and New Jersey. A 2013 PEW survey found that 10% of respondents identify as Orthodox, in a total Jewish population of at least 5.5 million.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

High verbal intelligence would give someone who wanted to be nefarious and lie, a greater possibility of doing so. When you combine that with the paranoia of many Jews, the MSM control and constant gaslighting about everything makes a lot more sense.

Keyword "wanted". You have to prove how or why Jews are more likely to lie than anybody else. Which to be honest, makes the whole verbal IQ thing redundant. If you're going to lie, no one is going to care that you took the time to write it like Shakespeare. Again, think about children. They're far from geniuses, but if they steal a cookie, or beat up a kid they don't like, do you really think IQ is going to stop them from running away from punishment?

Great, 83% of Orthodox Jews voted for Trump, but they're only like 10% of the Jewish population. If you knew how to properly form thoughts you would have considered this fact. It falls right in line with what u/Soylent said about demographics, which you just doubly ignored.

The problem is, this is the USA we're talking about. And especially given its history and culture with immigration, it's not a surprise that most people who did not actually arrive in 1776, are going to support the Liberal Party that makes it easier to give away citizenship. This is why I brought up Asians in the same paragraph. They support Liberalism in the U.S, even though Japan or Turkey or even India are more socially Conservative. But this line of thinking only means there is more nuance involved, rather than any conspiracy that one group of people are just after the other.

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    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The trauma will never cease to take center stage. No wonder so many still suffer from Nazis in their nightmares.

    Intergenerational Effects of Maternal Holocaust Exposure on FKBP5 Methylation

    Epigenetic transmission of Holocaust trauma: can nightmares be inherited?

    Influences of maternal and paternal PTSD on epigenetic regulation of the glucocorticoid receptor gene in Holocaust survivor offspring

    Intergenerational transmission of trauma effects: putative role of epigenetic mechanisms

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Yes, I do believe in epigenetics. And that's precisely the reason I'm more willing to believe an environment can mold or shape society, rather than our [still] limited understanding of the brain and how intelligence works.

    For example, I can present to you a study I saw that showed the biggest IQ increase ever. It was a comparison of children who were abandoned at a young age and were forced to grow up in an Orphanage. What the scientists found is that kids who had been adopted saw their IQ increase by 20 ~ 30 points. Yet imagine if society never investigated the real reason Orphanage kids had such a hard time in life, or made the assumption that we could only bump their IQ by a little bit, and the rest was hardcoded in their DNA? It literally creates a viscous cycle of blaming other people for their problems, while creating more of it.

    So I don't deny there are switches, but we still need more information about them before drawing certain conclusions.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      First study: Average IQ of 84 for Orphan kids vs 104 when raised by parents

      https://www.jstor.org/stable/23096249?seq=1

      Second Study: Lowest IQ of 54 for Orphan girls and 81 for Orphan boys. Greek Kids later raised by parents had IQs of 106.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5083169/

      Romanian Kids IQ improve when removed from the foster homes

      https://www.jstor.org/stable/23092572?seq=1

      Neurodevelopmental Effects of Early Deprivation in Post-Institutionalized Children

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846096/

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      None of these appear to look at adults. We already know that IQ is more environmental during childhood, but by adulthood genetics predominate.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      But the most important part of development happens when we're kids. Mess that up and it's no surprise the damage is permanent. It reminds me of the plants deprived of nutrition analogy. It doesn't matter if both still have the same lighting and genes. Environment will dictate if the final plant will actually grow up straight, or limp to the ground.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Heritability_plants.jpeg

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Mess that up and it's no surprise the damage is permanent.

      But that's not what the studies actually show.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm confused. Are you saying stunting childhood development has no affect on adults later in life? North Koreans haven't grown any taller or matched their South Korean counterparts when they're adults.

      https://i.imgur.com/0bX5C0j.jpg

      Damaging the brain when it's still developing is not the recipe for creating high IQ geniuses later in life.

      Edit: And from my own link, it mentions the physical and biological properties of the brain in post orphanage children differs from healthy adults and children. I'm not sure how becoming an Adult is suppose to fix this.

      Although it is critical to understand whether and how postnatal deprivation/neglect influences brain development in human children, the human neuroscience evidence is sparse. Two studies conducted by Chugani and colleagues reported that post-institutionalized (PI) children from Romania showed significantly decreased metabolism bilaterally in the orbital frontal gyrus, the infralimbic prefrontal cortex, the medial temporal structures (amygdala and head of hippocampus), the lateral temporal cortex, and the brain stem as compared to normal adults and children with chronic epilepsy.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      They haven't totally brainwashed an entire generation. There would be no alt right. There wouldn't even be a Trump if whites were so easily molded. That's why they've had to import lower IQ races that will eat up their subversions more intuitively. This is a lot more about anglo race traitors that decided instead of being a euro melting pot the US was going to be an international melting pot. Our trusted white elites, white religious leaders, white entertainers and even white academics have sold us out. Some were tricked but most were bought or black mailed.

      I will also echo what user antireddit has said. Part of the reason whites go along with so much of this subversion is due to lack of information and fear. There's a blanket control of information by Jews. There's a serious manipulation of the legal system by jews.

      Lastly the alt right never denied 'environment' as a factor on genes. It just takes a long time for environment to affect genes. We only talk about genetics in primacy because we are pushing back against the absurd blank slate/egalitarian fallacy the was foisted upon the american public from the 60's up until the 2000's. Jews know genetics dominate which is why they try to get into positions where they can keep their dysgenics up for multiple generations (and keep their own warp 'eugenics' in place). Whites have been under direct Jewish subversion through usury for at least 10 generations before Jews finally were able to import masses of shit skins into white countries; it's a slow play. Jews show they agree with genetics when they encourage whites to breed with non white races thus producing non white offspring.

      [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They haven't totally brainwashed an entire generation.

      I'm not sure that would even matter. Pattern recognition seems to be pretty innate, even koalas which are smooth-brains are capable of it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition_(psychology)

      Lastly the alt right never denied 'environment' as a factor on genes. It just takes a long time for environment to affect genes. We only talk about genetics in primacy because we are pushing back against the absurd blank slate/egalitarian fallacy the was foisted upon the american public from the 60's up until the 2000's. Jews know genetics dominate which is why they try to get into positions where they can keep their dysgenics up for multiple generations (and keep their own warp 'eugenics' in place). Whites have been under direct Jewish subversion through usury for at least 10 generations before Jews finally were able to import masses of shit skins into white countries; it's a slow play. Jews show they agree with genetics when they encourage whites to breed with non white races thus producing non white offspring.

      Great paragraph.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      They haven't totally brainwashed an entire generation. There would be no alt right. There wouldn't even be a Trump if whites were so easily molded. That's why they've had to import lower IQ races that will eat up their subversions more intuitively. This is a lot more about anglo race traitors that decided instead of being a euro melting pot the US was going to be an international melting pot. Our trusted white elites, white religious leaders, white entertainers and even white academics have sold us out. Some were tricked but most were bought or black mailed. I will also echo what user antireddit has said. Part of the reason whites go along with so much of this subversion is due to lack of information and fear. There's a blanket control of information by Jews. There's a serious manipulation of the legal system by jews.

      You need to make up your mind. Have Jews brainwashed anyone or have they not? Your post implies they already control immigration (i.e import low IQ races) and they already control the Elites. So that means the country was brainwashed, rather than the idea that White people just didn't know any better.

      Lastly the alt right never denied 'environment' as a factor on genes. It just takes a long time for environment to affect genes. We only talk about genetics in primacy because we are pushing back against the absurd blank slate/egalitarian fallacy the was foisted upon the american public from the 60's up until the 2000's. Jews know genetics dominate which is why they try to get into positions where they can keep their dysgenics up for multiple generations (and keep their own warp 'eugenics' in place). Whites have been under direct Jewish subversion through usury for at least 10 generations before Jews finally were able to import masses of shit skins into white countries; it's a slow play. Jews show they agree with genetics when they encourage whites to breed with non white races thus producing non white offspring.

      What makes you think environment always takes a long time to impact genes? The Flynn effect is a real example that environment/social conditioning only had to change in the last 100 years. We've also seen how malnutrition can directly affect human groups in the same generation. North Koreans are clearly shorter than their South Korean counterparts.

      But my argument was that if Jews have all the power to mold society as they see fit, then this technology should equally be used to eliminate poverty, because human behavior can be easily manipulated into doing things they're not hardcoded to do.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      You need to make up your mind. Have Jews brainwashed anyone or have they not? Your post implies they already control immigration (i.e import low IQ races)

      They don't control immigration because they've brainwashed a bunch of white people. In fact they don't out right control US immigration policy. Non whites flooding into the US is a complicated topic with a lot of moving pieces. Stop trying to oversimplify everything.

      Have Jews brainwashed anyone or have they not?

      Yes they have. However, you assume 'brainwashing' is something for low IQ people. In fact subversion/brainwashing is something that's easier to do on high IQ people. Brainwashing is not really the best term to use here as it covers up and obscures complicated psychological mechanisms such as trauma based mind control, Neuro Linguistic processing, dynamic silence, manufacturing consent, ACE score manipulation, love bombing (and other cult practices), dopamine addiction, chemical dependence, soma schemes, etc. Lower IQ people for the most part do not need to be brainwashed. They just adhere to power structures and that's it.

      I feel like you either don't understand what JQ is or you're purposefully misinterpreting it. Either way you need to read Dr. Kevin MacDonald's Culture of Critique to more fully understand Jewish ethnocentrism and their survival strategies.

      and they already control the Elites

      They didn't do that by environment manipulation. That's just old school infiltration, bribery, and blackmail. Jews themselves have been inside elite circles for thousands of years so this is a very complicated topic.

      What makes you think environment always takes a long time to impact genes?

      Natural environmental factors take a long time to impact genes. Human induced factors (such as dog breeding) can quicken the process.

      The Flynn effect is a real example that environment/social conditioning only had to change in the last 100 years.

      I do not deny the Flynn effect but it hasn't magically turned black people anywhere close to whites. The Flynn effect also doesn't properly analyze that a lot of black people got smarter because it's estimated that around 900k blacks starved after the civil war because they couldn't feed themselves properly without a slave master. This sped up black IQ development in North American. The Flynn effect also doesn't take into account non IQ related traits like aggression, empathy, etc. Have you considered the ramifications of your own assertions. Do you really want every non white who gets imported into western countries to do through all the trials and tribulations that american blacks have to 'change' them to be that much marginally more intelligent? Do you want to starve 30% of all black people in the world to make them more compatible with western society? The current state of Americans blacks show them to be un prepared for modern living even after such modifications. Your points are specious.

      We've also seen how malnutrition can directly affect human groups in the same generation

      Again. The alt right doesn't deny environment play a role. I said that in my previous post. Not sure why you keep hitting on it.

      But my argument was that if Jews have all the power to mold society as they see fit, then this technology should equally be used to eliminate poverty, because human behavior can be easily manipulated into doing things they're not hardcoded to do

      Jews don't want to use their current power to eliminate poverty though. They want to use it to create a international caste system with themselves as the ruling class and all other groups mixed together living as permanent slaves that serve Jews. I guess in a way this would eliminate poverty because most slave masters keep their slaves fed but that's besides the point. Jews would be achieving the eradication of starvation by replacing starvation with another grave immorality.

      because human behavior can be easily manipulated into doing things they're not hardcoded to do.

      Nobody on this sub will deny that humans can be manipulated. It's an evolved trait to be able to manipulate another human and to allow yourself to be controlled. The same path that allows for manipulation also allows for people to follow orders and to trust each-other. There was a joke in Germany that you could govern entire regions in the country with a pen and a letterhead. That's not because the German people were dumb. It's because they were low aggression, intelligent, collaborative and trusting. Those trait clusters are only dangerous when the person with the letter head wants to kill Germans and enslave them.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      They don't control immigration because they've brainwashed a bunch of white people. In fact they don't out right control US immigration policy. Non whites flooding into the US is a complicated topic with a lot of moving pieces. Stop trying to oversimplify everything. Yes they have. However, you assume 'brainwashing' is something for low IQ people. In fact subversion/brainwashing is something that's easier to do on high IQ people. Brainwashing is not really the best term to use here as it covers up and obscures complicated psychological mechanisms such as trauma based mind control, Neuro Linguistic processing, dynamic silence, manufacturing consent, ACE score manipulation, love bombing (and other cult practices), dopamine addiction, chemical dependence, soma schemes, etc. Lower IQ people for the most part do not need to be brainwashed. They just adhere to power structures and that's it. I feel like you either don't understand what JQ is or you're purposefully misinterpreting it. Either way you need to read Dr. Kevin MacDonald's Culture of Critique to more fully understand Jewish ethnocentrism and their survival strategies.

      If there's a grand Jewish agenda, and everything from immigration to the Elites heavily leans in their favor, then I'm forced to believe they are successful or that they brainwashed people. If they haven't, why the focus on one group of people and not the Mormons? Or the Italians? There's clearly something about them you believe they're getting away with that no one else appears to enjoy the same status. That's why I'm confused how come there is no straight answer. If they've been successful all this time, then White people did get brainwashed and not much was done to actually stop them....

      I do not deny the Flynn effect but it hasn't magically turned black people anywhere close to whites. The Flynn effect also doesn't properly analyze that a lot of black people got smarter because it's estimated that around 900k blacks starved after the civil war because they couldn't feed themselves properly without a slave master. This sped up black IQ development in North American. The Flynn effect also doesn't take into account non IQ related traits like aggression, empathy, etc. Have you considered the ramifications of your own assertions. Do you really want every non white who gets imported into western countries to do through all the trials and tribulations that american blacks have to 'change' them to be that much marginally more intelligent? Do you want to starve 30% of all black people in the world to make them more compatible with western society? The current state of Americans blacks show them to be un prepared for modern living even after such modifications. Your points are specious.

      It's more like I want to modify their behavior and social standing, by bombarding them with lots of cultural propaganda that can make them more Western. Whether this comes from changing their diets, keeping them in schools longer, or forcing them to listen to Beethoven instead of rap music. If the Jews can succeed in making people vote for policies that are detrimental, then why not make Black Americans vote for policies meant to enrich them?

      Jews don't want to use their current power to eliminate poverty though. They want to use it to create a international caste system with themselves as the ruling class and all other groups mixed together living as permanent slaves that serve Jews. I guess in a way this would eliminate poverty because most slave masters keep their slaves fed but that's besides the point. Jews would be achieving the eradication of starvation by replacing starvation with another grave immorality.

      Then the solution is to take this power away from Jews and give it to another group who will be much more benevolent with it. That's what I'm saying. A complete reversal of global slavery, but instead, uplifting human beings globally.

      Nobody on this sub will deny that humans can be manipulated. It's an evolved trait to be able to manipulate another human and to allow yourself to be controlled. The same path that allows for manipulation also allows for people to follow orders and to trust each-other. There was a joke in Germany that you could govern entire regions in the country with a pen and a letterhead. That's not because the German people were dumb. It's because they were low aggression, intelligent, collaborative and trusting. Those trait clusters are only dangerous when the person with the letter head wants to kill Germans and enslave them.

      I would argue these traits already exist in just every human population. What is missing are the cultural differences that greatly come into play. If an American used the pen and letterhead analogy on Japan, the Japanese people wont respond well. But if the Japanese Prime Minister wrote a letter that appealed to Japanese sensitives, then they will trust him and do what he said. So there's genes responsible for this, but in every group this varies a lot. Even in Black Africa, there are countries that have lower homicide rate than some European or South American ones. Yet genetically speaking, Black Africans still have more in common with their own continent...

      [–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      If there's a grand Jewish agenda, and everything from immigration to the Elites heavily leans in their favor, then I'm forced to believe they are successful or that they brainwashed people. If they haven't, why the focus on one group of people and not the Mormons? Or the Italians? There's clearly something about them you believe they're getting away with that no one else appears to enjoy the same status. That's why I'm confused how come there is no straight answer. If they've been successful all this time, then White people did get brainwashed and not much was done to actually stop them....

      What is with your rigid all or nothing views? These things are not mutually exclusive. People can be "brainwashed" or at least heavily influenced by propaganda and a punishment/reward system without being total zombie slaves. Jews are not some super villains and the number of them that are actively involved in a lot of this stuff is probably a minority of them. Quit over simplifying the issue.

      Then the solution is to take this power away from Jews and give it to another group who will be much more benevolent with it. That's what I'm saying. A complete reversal of global slavery, but instead, uplifting human beings globally.

      The solution is to break the taboo that Jews cannot be criticized. Whites are collectively criticized by Jewish dominated institutions, individuals and organizations continuously, often under the intentionally subversive guise of self criticism by "fellow whites". Jews should face the same scrutiny and criticism. They will never willingly allow this so its up to the rest of us to actively make it happen, to have each others back and unite against their increasingly unchecked, unaccountable power without scrutiny before it becomes absolute. No group should have this power, least of all a tiny minority group that has their own interests at heart but demands that no one ever question their motives and actions. Sorry, they have never earned that trust and the events of the last few decades shows the rest of us have lots of reason to be wary of their intentions.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      What is with your rigid all or nothing views? These things are not mutually exclusive. People can be "brainwashed" or at least heavily influenced by propaganda and a punishment/reward system without being total zombie slaves. Jews are not some super villains and the number of them that are actively involved in a lot of this stuff is probably a minority of them. Quit over simplifying the issue.

      Considering the level of scale involved (again, entire medias and government institutions are compromised), I'm not a fan of leaving these topics to doubt. Because it tells me, it's not really the Jews who are responsible or have some special hand in this, anymore than Mormons or Italians. Like that's the point. Why should I care if they don't control society for a fact? Especially since I still continue to live my life normally and no Jewish mafia has approached me yet saying "Shhhhh, cut it out. You're messing with our agenda!".

      The solution is to break the taboo that Jews cannot be criticized. Whites are collectively criticized by Jewish dominated institutions, individuals and organizations continuously, often under the intentionally subversive guise of self criticism by "fellow whites". Jews should face the same scrutiny and criticism. They will never willingly allow this so its up to the rest of us to actively make it happen, to have each others back and unite against their increasingly unchecked, unaccountable power without scrutiny before it becomes absolute. No group should have this power, least of all a tiny minority group that has their own interests at heart but demands that no one ever question their motives and actions. Sorry, they have never earned that trust and the events of the last few decades shows the rest of us have lots of reason to be wary of their intentions.

      I never understood this. Jews are criticized all the time. Just look at the protests we see every year against Israel's occupation of Palestine? Or the challenges made against the ritual of circumcision? Your latter part of the post, what difference is there between Jews having a lot of power, vs if the Mormons or Italians did it? As long as nothing illegal is involved, it comes across as paranoia. If Jews do something illegal, then clearly they can be held accountable. Harvey Weinstein is in jail right now despite his involvement in the film industry. If there are Jews who have circumvented justice, we could apply it to other races as well. George Bush Jr never got arrested for his crime of invading Iraq in 2003. Should we start denying Whites from ever holding office again? No, we need to follow rationale.

      [–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Considering the level of scale involved (again, entire medias and government institutions are compromised), I'm not a fan of leaving these topics to doubt.

      What is it you are doubting exactly? That Jews coordinate to advance their interests? The thousand lobbying organizations they have should leave your doubt to rest. Including the most powerful lobbying organizations in the west by any measure.

      Especially since I still continue to live my life normally and no Jewish mafia has approached me yet saying "Shhhhh, cut it out. You're messing with our agenda!".

      You act like they dont do that to people who question or criticize their power or apply the same discussions of over representation by whites to Jews specifically. I used to laugh when Jews on reddit would say if we're so powerful, why are you allowed to criticize us here? Right before a sub was banned or a post deleted criticizing them to a fraction of the degree whites or other groups are.

      I never understood this. Jews are criticized all the time.

      Really? What networks or mainstream websites do that? Virtually all of them criticize whites continually, I'm not seeing this criticism of Jews you claim to see.

      Your latter part of the post, what difference is there between Jews having a lot of power, vs if the Mormons or Italians did it?

      What part of NO group should have that much power did you not understand? Those groups arent anywhere near as over represented in positions of power that Jews are, so quit playing stupid. You made me waste time making a point you are already well aware of.

      George Bush Jr never got arrested for his crime of invading Iraq in 2003. Should we start denying Whites from ever holding office again? No, we need to follow rationale.

      By all means criticize him, arrest him. I fully support it. Go ahead and criticize whites for supporting the Iraq war too, I'm all for it. If you want to deny whites that supported the war higher office on the basis of that support, I'd say thats a legitimate discussion given the damage it caused. Not the best example to use when trying to say criticism of Jews is unfair seeing as who made up the think tanks, government officials and media that were most aggressively pushing for that war, and who benefitted the most from it.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      What is it you are doubting exactly? That Jews coordinate to advance their interests? The thousand lobbying organizations they have should leave your doubt to rest. Including the most powerful lobbying organizations in the west by any measure.

      I believe there is Jewish interest, but in no way is it completely coordinated to bring down the U.S or harm its citizens. Jewish lobby groups exist. Yes. But so does the Arab/Oil lobby. Or even the Farmer's lobby groups. There's an argument to be made about removing money from politics. I agree with that. But the fear of Jewish groups pushing their agenda remains quite unfounded. Or rather, the Alt-right are going after the wrong topics. Jonathan Pollard, an Israeli spy, has had Jewish groups try and support his release from prison. Do I support this? Lol no. He clearly committed a crime and put the nation at risk. But do I believe he stole U.S secrets in some kind of statement to bring down White people and make them suffer? No. What reason do I have to? For all we know, Pollard could have been some extreme Pro-White Nationalist and was friends with White people. Without some sort of damning evidence, I'm not going to believe every foreign spy is immediately anti-white. China does spying. So does Canada. But espionage has little to do with race...

      You act like they dont do that to people who question or criticize their power or apply the same discussions of over representation by whites to Jews specifically. I used to laugh when Jews on reddit would say if we're so powerful, why are you allowed to criticize us here? Right before a sub was banned or a post deleted criticizing them to a fraction of the degree whites or other groups are.

      Where is the Jewish Mafia shutting down B'tselem? Hell, that's an organization within Israel who literally film human rights violations in the occupied territory. It's highly possible that censorship comes across as selective and inconsistent, rather than the idea we all can't criticize Jews without mysteriously falling down stairs one day. There's also better ways of testing out criticism than on an internet message board. After all, those are privately owned websites that can remove content for any reason. If you live in the United States or any country with freedom of speech, hold an anti-Israel protest in public. The government should not be allowed to arrest you as long you as remain peaceful.

      What part of NO group should have that much power did you not understand? Those groups arent anywhere near as over represented in positions of power that Jews are, so quit playing stupid. You made me waste time making a point you are already well aware of.

      As long as there's no illegal activity involved, you're saying you're opposed to meritocracy? The same arguments Leftists make when they say governments are racist for not featuring "x" amount of minorities?

      By all means criticize him, arrest him. I fully support it. Go ahead and criticize whites for supporting the Iraq war too, I'm all for it. If you want to deny whites that supported the war higher office on the basis of that support, I'd say thats a legitimate discussion given the damage it caused. Not the best example to use when trying to say criticism of Jews is unfair seeing as who made up the think tanks, government officials and media that were most aggressively pushing for that war, and who benefitted the most from it.

      I don't think criticism of Jews is unfair. If you're a person like me and believe in science, you should have already accepted to ignore mainstream beliefs. Just be aware of how you pick your battles, and any consequences they may bring. In the past, it was teaching evolution in schools that caused a hysteria. Today, the media now mocks those who deny the theory or believe in talking animals. I'm in the same position. I'll criticize Jews or any other group if I can make a good argument for why it matters.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      It's more like I want to modify their behavior and social standing, by bombarding them with lots of cultural propaganda that can make them more Western.

      There are two problems with this. First it's unethical. If you polled black people and asked if they wanted to be engineered to be more like whites/asians/jews and other civilized groups they tell you to fuck off and let them control their own destiny. Nobody wants to be genetically and socially engineered; especially by an outside ethnic group. Second, the more civilized blacks become the more likelihood that have to cross breed with non blacks. This destroys the unique ethnic and genetic identities of all races involved. You're essentially destroying multiple long developed genetic and cultural expressions. Doing enough of this turns the earth into a mono race and a mono culture.

      If the Jews can succeed in making people vote for policies that are detrimental, then why not make Black Americans vote for policies meant to enrich them?

      If there was no way around removing blacks from society I might be for some very light social and genetic engineering. Only enough though to keep the white race safe, secure and prosperous because I think that for the most part engineering different racial groups is immoral. It seems like all social engineering today is used to turn black into physical and financial weapons against whites.

      Then the solution is to take this power away from Jews and give it to another group who will be much more benevolent with it. That's what I'm saying. A complete reversal of global slavery, but instead, uplifting human beings globally.

      If technological development continues the way it's going it will be inevitable that one group will have to control the entire globe. Especially if populations keep going up. That being said I have no idea how that government will look and who is moral enough to run it. Even whites are not put together enough to be in charge of a global government at this juncture.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      There are two problems with this. First it's unethical. If you polled black people and asked if they wanted to be engineered to be more like whites/asians/jews and other civilized groups they tell you to fuck off and let them control their own destiny.

      Black Americans once had upper class neighborhoods they could call their own. But riots and domestic terrorism destroyed them. Ethics would call for bringing back such prosperity, instead of the newfangled ghetto culture they convince themselves to be ok, but isn't.

      Second, the more civilized blacks become the more likelihood that have to cross breed with non blacks. This destroys the unique ethnic and genetic identities of all races involved. You're essentially destroying multiple long developed genetic and cultural expressions. Doing enough of this turns the earth into a mono race and a mono culture.

      Are you talking about race mixing? In multicultural societies, it was always bound to happen. But the majority do not actually marry outside their race.

      https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/12/key-facts-about-race-and-marriage-50-years-after-loving-v-virginia/

      We also have ethnic neighborhoods. Ever heard of Chinatown? Little Italy? Little Jamaica? Many of these places have existed for decades.

      If there was no way around removing blacks from society I might be for some very light social and genetic engineering. Only enough though to keep the white race safe, secure and prosperous because I think that for the most part engineering different racial groups is immoral. It seems like all social engineering today is used to turn black into physical and financial weapons against whites.

      The rich blacks are very safe. It's definitely a class issue. I urge you to check out this book by Thomas Sowell called Black Rednecks, and he even explains that degenerate black culture has origins from poor Whites living in the South.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      instead of the newfangled ghetto culture they convince themselves to be ok, but isn't.

      hmmm. I wonder who was behind promoting 'ghetto' culture?

      But the majority do not actually marry outside their race.

      They will as they westernize more. They will if it's promoted.

      I urge you to check out this book by Thomas Sowell called Black Rednecks, and even explains that degenerate black culture has origins from poor Whites living in the South.

      I'm familiar with the book and I'm not denying culture is a factor. However, culture will always be downstream of race. There's no need to worry about all the complexities of engineering non whites to live among whites when we could simply not import them in the first place.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They will as they westernize more. They will if it's promoted.

      America has the benefit of constantly importing new citizens. The ones who want to mix will, but then you have the other millions that move to their own enclaves or stick with their own kind, like the data suggests. It's a very different situation compared to other countries, where maybe a small group of Men decided to mate with nearly all the women stock that was only available (cough Mexico).

      I'm familiar with the book and I'm not denying culture is a factor. However, culture will always be downstream of race. There's not need to worry about all the complexities of engineering non whites to live among whites when we could simply not import them in the first place.

      Non-whites have been brought over because they wanted to partake in U.S culture, or they were perceived to bring value to it. Case and point, plenty of Indian CEO's are now in charge of several U.S tech companies and for the most part, are richer than ever. Companies will continue to poach for any white or non-white talent because it's shown to be profitable.

      Of course, I'm also aware of the counter argument that non-white immigrants can also bring crime and poverty as well. So what's the solution? The current Capitalist system would rather take risks with hiring the next Steve Jobs or employing cheap farm labor so the system does not collapse on itself. You are free to criticize the decisions made by politicians and businessman at large, but they're aware it's because of immigration why the U.S continues to outcompete the rest of the world. Until there's no money left to justify hiring immigrants, we wont see much or any changes to this trend.

      [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm not into IQ essentialism, which doesn't benefit anyone within the meaty part of the distribution curve anyway.

      Moderately intelligent people can be on ballance scrupulous or they can be sneaky. The conflict with ZOG is a conflict of the scrupulous vs. the sneaky.