I don't think American nationalism makes sense

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    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It is not the mixing of Europeans that is the issue. European nations themselves are ultimately mixtures of various peoples/tribes. It is a lack of a "volkish" national character that is the issue. Mass immigration even of Europeans prevented America from developing that.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I sometimes wonder if the mixing of these various Europeans (not just living in the same nation but interbreeding) was always going to doom it to failure.

    The USA basically piloted the idea of "assimilation". Which is ironically the complete opposite of diversity.

    Being an Irish-American or Greek-American was seen as a bad thing, just to be replaced with one generic label. If Americans could do this with White people, it's no surprise that every other race is now being forced to mix together as well...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphenated_American

    [–]Wrangel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It was a bit of a mistake, it would have been better if different Europeans had gone to different parts.

    I do agree that white Americans are forming a new people that is distinctly unique but I think it should be more regional than that. Someone who lives in the deep south is different from someone from Maine. The US is too large to have one cohesive ethnic identity and it would be better if people identified with their region rather than the US as a whole or a European country that their great grandfather came from. The future is Alaskan, the great lakes, Appalachian, Texan etc. Trying to revive European identities in the US won't work because that would be reviving something dead. Instead the US should do what Iceland did, Icelandic people are a mashup of Scandinavians, Scots, Irish and other Europeans but they managed to create a new Icelandic people.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    You are right, America was founded on a flawed idea of a nation but that doesn't mean we have to support those flaws as they get worse over time.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The American continent was always a bastardized experiment.

    It's not just the USA, but literally all their neighbors too. Canada was half British, half French. Mexico is half Spanish half Amerinidian. Brazil is whatever mystery meat that Portuguese Explorers had sex with, while also bringing in the largest regiment of slaves from Africa to populate the new world. And I haven't even mentioned Haiti and Jamaica...

    I guess you could argue U.S Nationalism is when you have several Europeans get together and form a superpower country. If it were not for that, then it would have been replaced by Hispanic nationalism a long time ago...

    [–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    White Americans all have different ancestries.

    That's true, but it's not all that relevant to Americans. To the extent that groups of white Americans regard themselves as different from other white Americans, its a geographic and cultural thing - "The South" vs "The Midwest" vs "The Northeast", not "Scots-Irish" vs "Scandinavians" vs "Anglos" even if those are largely two ways of looking at the same thing.

    Right now, I think most white Americans see themselves as basically the same as other white Americans because the gap between Scots-Irish Southerners and Anglo Northeasterners pales in comparison to the gap between whites and the nonwhite races in America.

    [–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    1776 was an ethnogenesis event.