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[–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Both Odysee and BitChute are censoring in their own ways.

BitChute has axed a lot of channels outright. Odysee at the moment is definitely censoring violent content, but I've found no cases of political censorship. Plenty of videos name the J's and N's.

Odysee is vastly better than BitChute at the present time.

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    [–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Videos of actual murders, etc. are definitely getting censored. Which means that the capacity for censorship obviously exists on the site.

    Even YouTube doesn't ban mere depictions of violence, e.g. in video games. As far as I know, YouTube won't monetize channels that are specifically focused on violent video game content, and also won't monetize such videos even on channels that are otherwise monetized. So I doubt that Odysee has a problem with such videos when even YouTube doesn't mind them.

    Odysee hasn't reached a level where I've found any political content that has been banned. It doesn't matter how 'extreme' that political content is.

    In some ways Odysee seems like a piracy site. There's plenty of e-book pdfs, entire films, etc. Entire films can also be found on YouTube, but they aren't supposed to be on there.

    Not only can Odysee host pdfs, but it can also serve as a place to post articles. Content creators who like writing over video creation can actually find Odysee useful in a way that YouTube and BitChute are not. This kind of non-video content works in the same way as videos (appears in your subscriptions, can be upvoted/downvoted/commented on, etc.)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Dude, what is up with your username?

    [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    On a somewhat unrelated note, I also noticed Bitchute's userbase is a lot less based than you'd expect it to be (which is also the case on Gab.ai). For example, I once searched "eugenics" on Bitchute, expecting to find pro-eugenics videos and debates about eugenics, but all I saw was videos with titles like "BILL GATES IS TRYING TO DEPOPULATE AFRICA WITH VACCINES!!1!!1 MODERN-DAY EUGENICS!!1!1!1" by cucked conspiracy boomers (and possibly weed and crack addicted Afrocentrists). I fucking wish Bill Gates was actually that based.

    [–]Girondin[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    similar web shows the top referring sites for bitchute to be rense.com and godlikeproductions (both big conspiracy sites).

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Gates is a eugenicist who believes the superior race is the jew.

    [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Possibly, but the people who schizopost about Bill Gates in the way I mentioned earlier probably don't believe that. They mostly believe he's a white supremacist and/or a "chicom" asset who wants to bring back eugenics and depopulate Africa. I fucking wish those dubious, baseless claims were true (except the "chicom" part), he would basically be to us what George Soros is to the woke left.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yup, a white supremacist or Jesuit when his great, great grandfather was Israel and Gates comes from the Ashkenazi Goetz surname.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Most of my favorite videos have been removed from Bitchute. I had the David Cole visit to Auschwitz, the Spielberg "survivor" interviews (the good ones anyway) and a bunch of other good things. All gone.

    So yes they are definitely censoring hard.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Holy smokes, those two videos are the best ones to show non-believers. What a shame.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Facts getting in the way of propaganda.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's because Vahey is a Zionist is likely a crypto-Jew.

    [–]nordmannenLegionnaire 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    BitChute sucks anyway because I have to reupload half the videos I upload as they get stuck processing forever. If odysee doesn't censor my RAC uploads and actually uploads properly I'll build a RAC archive over there.

    [–]Girondin[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I think this was a big mistake on the part of Bitchute (I understand it is a very small company and they lack resources etc) to never solve the upload problem, the difficulty of uploading makes it only appealing to dissidents, as a way to archive videos in case they get deleted or as a back-up channel it is pretty terrible. Now that they are taking a hard-line against dissidents is very unappealing.

    Oddysee is very easy to upload and back-up on, around half of the normie / apolitical content I follow has a oddyseee (versus only 1 channel for bitchute), I think this will bring evasion, it was so easy to bring a media spectacle against bitchute since ALL of the content was far-right or conspiracy stuff. We have yet to see how odysee will handle the problems it will face but bitchute never challenged the system, it just caved in and keeps a "prohibited entities list" (what a vague term).

    Currently odysee has 19.90M page views (per month?) vs 37.07M bitchute (similarweb statistics), though odysee has a upward trend while bitchute is stagnant.

    [–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Gotcha, thanks bro. I'll check odysee out

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Who owns Odysee... who... it's a jew!!

    [–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    lmao of course

    [–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The only thing you need to start uploading is a phone number to verify your account (verification is essentially needed for uploaders, for viewers it is not required but they cannot accrue 'LBC' crypto rewards unless verified). The only downside for someone transferring all their content is that uploading uses these 'LBC', but I had enough on the first day to upload eight videos. Verified users accrue more by essentially interacting with the site (viewing other users' videos, subscribing to other users, simply logging in every so often, etc.)

    The YouTube sync feature which a lot of DR content creators have used to automatically copy their videos to Odysee (it even transfers the upload date, which means that plenty of Odysee videos are marked as having been uploaded long before Odysee was even a thing) doesn't work without 300 YouTube subscribers... I'll have to move 50-60 more videos manually.

    Odysee is also growing faster. Alexa rankings show that:

    BitChute has fallen by 502 places in the global rankings over the last three months.

    Odysee has risen by 1035 places in the same rankings over the same time period.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Owners of Odysee


    Small hats: (((Jeremy Kauffman))), (((Jimmy Kiselak))), variants include Kisselevich, Kisel, Kiszilak of Slovenia:

    Look at Kiselak and all the Jewish alumni on his frisbee team; they all stick together:

    http://frisbee.union.rpi.edu/bios/

    https://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Symbols-spock.jpg

    https://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Symbols-levi-spock.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/36/32/c936323903c237253b78491dfd0915a8.jpg

    https://illuminatisymbols.info/wp-content/uploads/illuminati-sign-priestly-blessing.jpg

    (((Alex Grintsvayg))) possibly a Ukrainian Jew; such names of Jewish origin include Jews of the ORENBURG Soviet REGION... many Grintsvayg Jews in the Yizkor Book Project;

    Hebrew Surname Grintsvayg: https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets/web-pages/database/krem_search_eng.php?GivenNameHebrewKind=marjulrwvhddar&offset=148301

    Mike Vine, not sure; (((Josh Finer)))

    • CEO: Jeremy Kauffman

    • CTO: Alex Grintsvayg

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Everything Odysee says is what Bitchute use to say in their terms of service.

    Nobody gives two craps about ToS.

    ZioChute is owned by a Zionist grifter and Odysee is owned by two Jews.

    They want to Balkenize obviously and in a year Odysee will start censoring.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    BEFORE YOU MOVE TO ANY SITE ASK YOURSELF THIS...

    WHO OWNS THAT SITE?

    [–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I've since found at least one case of political censorship of a DR content creator whose account will presumably be banned after a certain amount of time. He claims to have received an email from them stating that his videos violate their terms of service and that he is to delete all of them.

    It appears that he is ignoring this. So it will be interesting to see if Odysse deletes his content themselves and whether that also entails even preventing him from commenting, etc. I'll follow up this comment when they take action.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Odysee is already deleting/hiding alt right stuff. Try to find the spanish girl nazi memes from a few months back, Isabel something