The Left admits Jews can be a race and suffer health problems, so why not White people too?

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

So I'm doing a series called "Race realism for Normies" and it requires debunking mainstream arguments for diversity.

However, I came across a special article today, written by scientists, that makes claims about racial trauma in America. But there's something off about it.

https://www.mhanational.org/racial-trauma

Racial trauma, or race-based traumatic stress (RBTS), refers to the mental and emotional injury caused by encounters with racial bias and ethnic discrimination, racism, and hate crimes [1]. Any individual that has experienced an emotionally painful, sudden, and uncontrollable racist encounter is at risk of suffering from a race-based traumatic stress injury [2]. In the U.S., Black, Indigenous People of Color (BIPOC) are most vulnerable due to living under a system of white supremacy. Experiences of race-based discrimination can have detrimental psychological impacts on individuals and their wider communities. In some individuals, prolonged incidents of racism can lead to symptoms like those experienced with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) [2]. This can look like depression, anger, recurring thoughts of the event, physical reactions (e.g. headaches, chest pains, insomnia), hypervigilance, low-self-esteem, and mentally distancing from the traumatic events [3]. Some or all of these symptoms may be present in someone with RBTS and symptoms can look different across different cultural groups. It is important to note that unlike PTSD, RBTS is not considered a mental health disorder. RBTS is a mental injury that can occur as the result of living within a racist system or experiencing events of racism [3]

So the Left has evidence that unconscious racism can cause serious health effects in populations. This includes; Black people, Native Indians and Asians. Also one more group. Jewish Americans.

Over the course of one year, Twitter saw 4.2 million anti-Semitic tweets in just the English language alone. These tweets included anti-Semitic stereotypes, promotion of anti-Semitic personality or media, symbols, slurs, or anti-Semitic conspiracy theories including Holocaust denial [6]

So Jewish people exposed to antisemitism will negatively affect their health. Ok, so where does this leave White people? Well, the article doesn't make any reference to Whites except for the opening paragraph.

Any individual that has experienced an emotionally painful, sudden, and uncontrollable racist encounter is at risk of suffering from a race-based traumatic stress injury [2]. In the U.S., Black, Indigenous People of Color (BIPOC) are most vulnerable due to living under a system of white supremacy.

However, the problem with this sentence is very obvious. For example, in a 100% white community, are we to believe that white supremacy is causing these people health issues? Or, how exactly can you cure a group of people who are carrying the "white supremacist" genes and spread it everywhere they have white children? Any normie should be able to read this article right away and start asking the same questions of what does diversity mean for their nations if "whiteness" is being treated like a defect that harms others. Perhaps, the solution to racial trauma that this science article points out is to keep non-whites seperated so their mental health levels don't decline?

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[–]Erasmus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The ultimate goal of the APA is to declare racism a mental illness in the DSM.

We already have mechanisms in place to take away the rights of the mentally ill, and since only whites can be racist according to their definition, any white who pushes back against the anti-white system will have some or all of their rights taken from them. We're not far from this.

The mental health industry already uses loaded terms like calling racism a "pandemic", and pointing out that they treat white people and non-white people differently isn't going to make them stop doing it. That's sort of the point of creating these systems in the first place.

You would think this would bother more white people than it does.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I also encourage you to look at their staff page who make up this website.

https://mhanational.org/mha-staff

Plenty of Whites are still in control of these organizations, and yet they support or publish articles that do nothing but speed up white replacement. So there's clearly an internal struggle going on where Whites are fighting against their own interests.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The whole argument of racial trauma presupposes the existence of a white supremacist state. Anyone who believes that are unlikely to be swayed by any arguments you can make.

Look forward to seeing your work tho.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The whole argument of racial trauma presupposes the existence of a white supremacist state.

Maybe the Left thinks that way, but I would like to flip this idea on its head and make the concept universal.

For example, I don't think it's a complete lie to say that exposing people to certain media can have a psychological effect on them. This is already proven with other studies like Women's anorexia, or showing children professional wrestling videos can raise aggression levels.

So when it comes to "racial trauma", it's very candid of this organization to leave out zero mentions of White people feeling fatigue or being oppressed. Did they think no one would ever try this experiment out and later come back to refute them with it? And once that information is out, they can either try their best to suppress it, or become forced to admit they were wrong and make changes to their article that accepts White people are being physically harmed as well. The later is how science normally works. New evidence displaces the old.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But the whole argument presupposes a white supremacist state. Whites as a class by definition can’t be oppressed in any meaningful way in a white supremacist state.

That’s the problem with all this “scientific” research, they start their research on a faulty premise then purposefully use a fucked up methodology. It happens all the time.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So the Left has evidence that unconscious racism can cause serious health effects in populations.

A bit more skepticism on your part would do you good. What you quoted is not evidence - it is say-so from people with obvious conflicts of interest, ideological and probably also financial. You should not just believe it outright.

For example, in a 100% white community, are we to believe that white supremacy is causing these people health issues?

By "these people" I assume you mean whites, since there would be no one else in a 100% white community. In that case the obvious answer is no, because whites are presumably immune to the miasma of "wHiTe SoOpReEmAcY" that they supposedly emit.

Or, how exactly can you cure a group of people who are carrying the "white supremacist" genes and spread it everywhere they have white children?

Basically, by requiring whites to subordinate their desires and interests to those of nonwhites. It would never be "cured", because then the racket would have to end, but we already see calls for white people to "make room for Black voices" and such. That nebulous verbiage could in time become a lot more concrete and backed by force.

Perhaps, the solution to racial trauma that this science article points out is to keep non-whites separated so their mental health levels don't decline?

That would work. Obviously a counterargument would be "White people just have to do whatever the nonwhite people ask them to do, then everyone will be happy", and some normies will have trouble choosing our position over that one.