Has the Left ever commented on why Former White Countries are not rich and prosperous?

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Today I was searching for a quote by Ben Shapiro. It was his famous "I don't give a damn about the Browning of America". But before I found his tweet, there where two articles that were using his same language. I read them and it had a lot of fluff to say.

For example, one of them says that America becoming Brown makes it more "safe". It even blames White people for creating more violence!

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/11/01/the-browning-of-america-is-making-us-safer/

And another article, written in 2012, says Brown people will make America the most rich, while also claiming they need a lot of help to get there.

https://www.essence.com/news/preparing-for-the-browning-of-america/

So the Left has been making great claims the past decade that any country that sheds its White population will become the safest and richest superpower in the world!

But there's a problem. We don't actually have any real world examples to form this conclusion on. But even worse, the same countries the Left claim are full of poverty and violence, are literally countries where Whites handed over power to the majority black or brown population.

These countries are: Jamaica, Haiti, Brazil, South Africa, Zimbabwe/Rhodesia, Mexico, Mozambique, Angola, Syria, India.

I could name more but the only former White colony that did get richer/safer over time where a few Asian territories. Like Singapore, Hong Kong and Macau. But then the argument would not be "More Black people = Rich/Safer", it should be "More Asian immigrants".

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[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They don't need to. Their hatred towards our people and our civilization motivates them, inspires them. The thoughts of harming us is the fuel that keeps them going. They are hypocrites, scumbags and traitors and they know it. Having said that, let them do what they are doing. I have a feeling that our people won't tolerate this much longer. No race can be subdued forever. What comes later will be horrific, as warned by many French generals. Till then, let them poke the bear. And when that day finally comes, we'll tell them - "Told you not to mess with us".

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Blond Beast will return.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a matter of when.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It could only ever lead in a direction that refutes Leftist narratives. They pigeonhole this into the same box as IQ and race science, i.e. only malicious people raise such questions.

It's the same thing as how countries that were decolonised last (South Africa, Hong Kong) are vastly superior to those decolonised first (Haiti, Liberia) or untouched (Ethiopia, Thailand). Nobody can seriously argue that colonialism was destructive in lieu of this observation simply because the exact opposite should be true; that is, that countries colonized for lesser time periods should be less dysfunctional, and countries colonized for greater time periods should be more dysfunctional. But that isn't just plain wrong, it's the exact opposite of reality.

The Leftist psychological reaction to this reality is simply to deny it, reach into a bag of canned responses to pull out the usual excuse and then repress and ostracize whoever raised the question. Try raising this topic in a university if you have any doubts as to how it would play out.

[–]asg101 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

The answer you are looking for is that centuries of imperialism and resource extraction leaves those countries impoverished and unable to function when the power shifts.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who taught you this antiwhite racist nonsense?

Imperialism and colonialism was a European quest for the liberation of all races from Jewish slavery and usurery. It came as a result of the European liberation of jewish slavery of Whites for centuries in Spain, Middle east, Eastern Europe, Russia, Central Asia, and so on.
Finally Whites were free from the jewish slave empires and we used this freedom to free other Races from the same situation.

These impoverished countries that you talk about are richer now than when they were freed from the jewish power. Imperialism gave them freedom AND prosperity.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is just as dumb as the Leftist narrative.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

China and South Korea disprove that thesis.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This person actually thinks race isn't real.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The answer you are looking for is that centuries of imperialism and resource extraction leaves those countries impoverished and unable to function when the power shifts.

For that to be true, what was life like before Europeans came to South Africa, Brazil, India?

There where no railroads or running electricity. They didn't appear to operate any automobiles or advanced machinery either.

When the Europeans were forced out of these countries, it's more logical to assume they were handing them a Civilization that the Natives had no experience with, as opposed to the idea Black & Brown people already discovered these things but somehow "forgot" how to use them. And even that is still strange.

South Africa was not depleted in 1994. It was still a functioning country, even under sanctions and global boycotts. But when Apartheid ended and Blacks came to power, several National Companies began to file for bankruptcy.

Like their National Airlines was founded in 1937, but today it's now broke.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-africa-business-airlines-south-africa-b6c4196ece3070025a7728d4e90606e1

South Africa’s state-owned airline has suspended all its operations as it struggles to raise a bailout of more than 10 billion rands ($591 million). South African Airways, one of the country’s state-owned enterprises face allegations of corruption and mismanagement, filed for liquidation and bankruptcy protection in December last year. The business rescue team assigned to manage the company has announced it has failed to raise the money needed to implement a rescue plan for the airline. The suspension of operations may be lifted if the government comes through funds it has promised.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You don't have to look far to find Indians online claiming they had flying vemanas and a nuclear arsenal before England conquered them.

Less-extreme myths cling to the big pre-Colombian civilizations, which practiced "human rights abuse" as sport and ritual worse than European folk tails of demons.

The white man is a creature of industry and God, who shames the tailless monkeys by creating weaknesses of greed and envy. Whites extract dream-time in their attempt to transcend their brothers, an aspiration of evil spirits and twisted witches.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ancient greece said that indians were white.
Indias own history talks about white Aryans. Buddha is blue eyed.
Indus valley is right next to Iran, which gets its name from Aryans, coincidentally.

Indians also have an indo-european language, how weird is that? What a coincidence.
Indians also have a caste system that was implemented when nonwhites started to interbreed with the white Aryans. More than 2000 years ago. Indians also revere the Cow, who is interestingly enough a corner stone of the Aryan civilisation. Now originally the cow was allowed to be eaten in India, but they have since changed that aspect.

Too bad the English conquered them.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They were. Yet supposedly the earliest mention within the subcontinent we know of today is from some northern Brahmin who claims he heard legends of light-skinned Brahmins and doesn't believe it's true because nobody had ever seen one. Not only in retrospect, the English were suicidally kind to the Hindu.

It looks like this has all happened before, to our erstwhile cousins, all across the globe. And it continues like before. There is no renewal, only a blood sacrifice to achieve the blissful sleep of the dark.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think the Emperor's new clothes are awesome.

[–]jw329 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The media always has it's own agenda. They use skin color as a tool to divide people. They love using the words blacks, whites, but not often use the words brown or yellow. Instead they use asian for yellows and hispanics for brown.

Of course browns wont make the usa safer. Look where they are getting the brown people from. From country that have low IQ and terrible education and poverty.

Whites are smarter simply because they have had access to good education and have always had all the wealth.

But time has changed that and now the yellows(asian) are starting to catch up to the "whites"

They are trying to break "whites" into fighting with other skin colors and its slowly working because they have dumbed down the american "whites" IQ

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Throughout human history, Whites & Yellow Asians have always had comparable civilizations. China was arguably even more advance, because they invented stuff like gunpowder or pasta first.

But this still doesn't explain why every single White country is still doing worse off because the White population has been erased. You keep saying it's because of education & wealth, but you ignore that other races have been able to mismanage both.

If I give you a $1 million dollars but you instantly spend it on say... shoes, whose fault is that? If I paid for your entire University admission but you fail every course, whose fault is that?

There was literally a survey done back in the 1990s that even compared how wealthy you are with your grades. And while richer Blacks did much better than poorer Blacks, there where no Blacks who could outperform Whites & Asians at the highest level.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/1995-SAT-vs-Income-Education.png

So no, blaming money or access to schools is not a good excuse. Even the poorest Asians with $0 in their bank accounts, still did better in school than the Black kids who came from families worth thousands.

[–]wuzizname 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Democrats are all Jews that’s why they hate whites. You’d think they’d have a day of celebration to commemorate their emancipation from nazi death camps but they don’t because they hate us all and want us all to die.