Is there a single piece of Black media that worships intelligence?

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

When people question why Whites are considered smart, there are many examples to point to. A very good one is media. Whites have made many movies, video games, novels etc where "intelligence" plays an important part of the story. Think of the "Evil Genius" tropes, power hungry Businessmen or Politicians, Mad Scientists, clever tricksters like Bugs Bunny, Superheroes who are faced with moral dilemmas and must make split second decisions. The list goes on.

But now, when we turn our attention to how Blacks like to portray themselves in pop culture, we see examples of them wanting to be aspiring rappers, basketball players, or Cowboys who go around shooting White people (cough Netflix).

But where are the examples of Black people actually praising or supporting a culture that requires high level intellect? Some might argue that the superhero franchise "Black Panther" might fit that description. However, even the idea of a super advanced African society that bans immigrants from entering was not invented by a black person. It was actual two Jews who came up with "Wakanda" first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(character)#Publication_history

Lee and Kirby's creation of Black Panther was inspired by Lee's desire in the mid-60s to include more African and African-American characters in Marvel Comics. In 1963, they included a black character, Gabe Jones, in the ensemble cast of Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos,[14] and Lee encouraged artists to include black characters in crowd scenes.[15] In a 1998 interview, Lee explained his motivation: "I wasn't thinking of civil rights. I had a lot of friends who were black and we had artists who were black. So it occurred to me... why aren't there any black heroes?"[16] Soon after Black Panther was introduced, Marvel also added two more recurring black characters: Jill Jerrold in Modeling with Millie, and Bill Foster in The Avengers.[15]

So even though we see a lot of Blacks consoooooming Disney's merchandise, they didn't even create the Superhero they wish was them.

So what does this leave them with?

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

dat sheeit be cracka stuff. U aint sum bitch ass nigga ar ya?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

Liberal mode: Deny and call opponent racist.

I'm not sure if there is a true lack of intelligence "worship" among blacks. You're probably just missing it because of your racist, white supremacist worldview. Black superheros exist in real life, like WEB Dubois and Martin Luther King. That's who blacks look up to and they are much more impressive than your made up white supremacist cartoon characters.

Liberal mode: Blame whitey.

If there are any racial differences between how whites and blacks emphasize intelligence, it's probably due to the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, oppression, and white supremacy. Black's live in a white supremacist society that tells them what color intelligence looks like. Institutional racism has taught blacks they can't be intelligent, so we have to dismantle hundreds of years of racism and oppression before we can see equality on this issue.

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Black America would be better off if they acted like the Jewish community. The Jewish community works hard, support one another, believe in higher education, that's why a lot of Jewish people are lawyers, doctors, scientists and businessmen.

Conservative mode: Play the victim to big bad political correctness, cry about cancel culture, critical race theory and "big tech censorship".

White America too could learn a thing or two from the Jewish community. The Jewish community does not abuse opioids, nor play the victim.

Shalom

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

White America too could learn a thing or two from the Jewish community. The Jewish community does not abuse opioids, nor play the victim.

Ahahahahah.

It's literally a crime to criticize Israel. Of course they play victims.

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/u-s-senates-first-bill-in-midst-of-shutdown-is-a-bipartisan-defense-of-the-israeli-government-from-boycotts/

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why are you deflecting to Israel? I made no mention of Israel. You do know there is a Jewish community in America right? Try to stay on topic please.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You do know there is a Jewish community in America right?

Yes, and they happen to be dual citizens that make it a crime to criticize one country, but not the other.

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We both know that's what you meant in your reply. If that what was you had in mind you would have been sure to mention dual citizenship. After realizing I knew you were deflecting, all of a sudden to hide that fact you brought up American Jews having dual citizenship. The vast majority of American Jews do not have dual citizenship with Israel because it's not necessary. The Jewish law of return grants all Jews around the world the right to go Israel. White Americans, black Americans have a lot to learn from American Jews. Don't be a baby who plays the victim, just go out and work hard.

This 2018 article from the Jerusalem Post mentions that those outside of Israel have no vote in Israeli elections nor in the passage of Laws. The laws in Israel have no bearing on the actions of Jews in America. Unlike Black Americans and White Americans, American Jews are not crybabies.

Shalom

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dual citizenship, or Jews choosing to return to Israel at anytime, represents separate loyalty. Passing laws that ban criticism of Israel, while also encouraging tax dollars go towards a foreign state instead of your own, creates an unfair advantage.

We know in America there are no laws that ban hatred or discrimination against Whites, nor are they given Billions of dollars for simply existing. Jews would start crying like babies if we took those privileges away from them. Like how about starting with the U.S government's definition of antisemitism?

https://www.state.gov/defining-anti-semitism/

Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.

No one can question Jewish wealth or power, but schools everywhere are ok with teaching "White people are bad, they must pay reparations or give up their jobs to non-whites".

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mods, get rid of this obvious troll please.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Black America would be better off if they acted like the Jewish community.

Yah, no shit.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White America too could learn a thing or two from the Jewish community.

You're such a disingenuous little shit. If white's attempted to organize and lobby on their behalf to a fraction of the extent Jews do, Jewish lobby groups, media, tech oligarchs, academics, politicians, security state bureaucrats, and financiers would have a complete meltdown and would instantly organize against it, using every tool in their kit. We know this because we see it all the time.

Someone simply saying it's ok to be white initiates complete hysteria by organized Jewry. Do you honestly think whites could just create a bunch of ADL style lobby groups, or openly and covertly organize the way Jews do?

That these Jews are able to shut down any and all white advocacy isn't because they are so incredibly clever or talented or hard working or any of the other myths you tell yourself. It's because they endlessly exploit white guilt and empathy, two things they apparently largely lack themselves. The Holocaust has been mined heavily to push their agenda and attack others for going on a century now, and has become a near religion itself among many Jews. Obviously the immense generational wealth they have accumulated over the centuries because of their total monopoly on usury in Europe for over a millenia hasn't exactly hurt their ability to push their agenda either, along with the fact they have a western funded nuclear armed ethnostate backing them up and serving as an untouchable safe place to organize, scheme and flee to.

But you not only know all this, you are probably one of the neurotic shits that has continually tried to shut this site and others down merely because you see small instances of whites doing a tiny bit of white Jews do, discussing their situation and the reasons behind it.

[–]Erasmus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This made me think of a passage in William Henry Ferris's 1913 book, "The African Abroad, or, his evolution in western civilization, tracing his development under Caucasian milieu."

Ferris was a Yale graduate, and a minor black intellectual, speaker, and activist around the turn of the 20th century. He asked the same question over 100 years ago:

Plato wrote over the door of the entrance to his lectures upon philosophy: "Let no one enter here who has not studied Geometry," thinking that a man who has not studied geometry could not understand philosophy. And I would like to engrave this axiom over the door of every Negro school-house, college, church and newspaper office, "No one who is not a profound student of sociology and human history is fit to be a leader of the Negro race. The blind cannot lead the blind."

But let us return to our argument. From the time of Crummell down to the time of DuBois the scholars, thinkers and literary men of the Negro race are honored less by the Negro race than by the Anglo-Saxon race.

We boom as great men, men whose only qualification for leadership is a glib and fluent tongue, and a loud, boisterous and noisy manner of speaking. Blyden is the greatest linguist our race has yet produced. He was a recognized Arabic scholar, and a recognized authority upon Mohammedanism, and yet I hear very little about Blyden among the colored people. DuBois is honored among the colored people, not so much because he is a brilliant scholar and literary genius, as because he is a leader of the political hopes and aspirations of the Negro.

... Instead of despising culture and scholarship, the Negro race must honor its thinkers, scholars and literary men.

The more things change…

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing find!

The same observations from more than a century ago remain unchanged.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't think this is so much a Black problem and more of a Jewish problem. We see the same with Asian representation in Hollywood that portray almost all Asian males as effeminate nerds. This isn't true in real life and if you watch Asian media there is greater diversity in archetypes and personas than what you see in Hollywood. White people have more diversity in characters because we are a large enough population and have enough talent in the industry that not every movie is completely Jewish. You might have artificial representation of non whites but the narratives and style are completely different from Jewish movies.

I also suspect that movies with intelligent Black protagonists will probably only be enjoyed by a small minority of Blacks that are also intelligent. In my experience the most intelligent Black characters are portrayed in civil rights films. Many of these films are written by and produced by Jews, which makes looking for one of those movies created solely by Blacks a needle in the haystack.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If the problem was Jews, then why do we see the same gaps in every country? Blacks also live in Canada, UK, France, Brazil, yet where is the Black version of Star Wars or Superman? Even the other day, I made a thread about South Africa ending Apartheid, yet the Black government still did nothing to advance their Cinematography. It was actually a White guy responsible for any global hit from the country (District 9).

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/84la/what_has_black_ruled_south_africa_ever/

In regards to Asians, I do agree that most of Hollywood portrays them as nerds and cucks. But when you look at their countries of origins, at least one of them [Japan] tries to be very competitive. From video game consoles, to creating Pokemon or Godzilla, the Japanese make franchises that require a bit more complexity to understand or adore.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yet where is the Black version of Star Wars or Superman?

Their negro brains dont work like that. Pussy, violence, theft, drugs, bling - that is their superman. Their superheros are invented by whites and jews because traditional superhero stories and science fiction are a white thing.

Ask yourself, what powers would a black invented superhero have and what would he/she do with them? He's just rap music star with a cape.

What would a black invented futuristic sci-fi world look like? It's just a rap music video with flying cars.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If the problem was Jews, then why do we see the same gaps in every country? Blacks also live in Canada, UK, France, Brazil, yet where is the Black version of Star Wars or Superman? Even the other day, I made a thread about South Africa ending Apartheid, yet the Black government still did nothing to advance their Cinematography.

1) People generally don't want to watch films about Blacks. It could be because they can't relate to them or dislike them.

2) African societies don't really prioritize science or stories with complex narratives and themes.

3) Black films generally are not shining examples of cinematography.

4) Why do you expect there to be a Black version of Star Wars? Blacks have higher time preference and probably will enjoy films that relate to their present condition.

5) The Jewish problem is important because their indoctrination leads to lack of creativity because all potential inspiration is filtered through the Jewish perspective.

6) South Africa is a dysfunctional society, to create a Black society with competitive cinema and story telling would require an authoritarian, meritocratic state that practices eugenics. There multiple competing African tribes, it isn't just Blacks vs Whites in South Africa. Also, the stability and average of a society is extremely important for creating high culture. If you are catering to the lowest common denominator you end up with garbage. You have to set the bar high and select only the people that can appreciate and make that bar. The White South Africans that make world wide hits also travel to more successful countries to get funding for their movies.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

1) People generally don't want to watch films about Blacks. It could be because they can't relate to them or dislike them.

I knew this was going to come up.

The same could have been said about Whites or even Japanese people. Especially when so many popular IP's have ridiculous origins but later became big hits. A movie about talking animals sounds stupid right? Except that's literally how we got Mickey Mouse and a slew of other Disney films. Or how about a video game based on a fat Italian plumber? Except Super Mario is the most recognizable game character out there.

If people don't want to watch a film about Blacks, then there are a million other properties or ideas to work with.

2) African societies don't really prioritize science or stories with complex narratives and themes.

I agree

3) Black films generally are not shining examples of cinematography.

I agree, although a film can still be popular without it. Michael Bay still finds work every year, even though his gimmick is "explosions".

4) Why do you expect there to be a Black version of Star Wars? Blacks have higher time preference and probably will enjoy films that relate to their present condition.

It's only because they bitch when every TV Show or Movie features some Black actors instead of the entire cast being full of them. Which is where this thread comes from. Blacks and other minorities constantly clamor for "representation", yet they fail to even produce the same media on their own.

5) The Jewish problem is important because their indoctrination leads to lack of creativity because all potential inspiration is filtered through the Jewish perspective. 6) South Africa is a dysfunctional society, to create a Black society with competitive cinema and story telling would require an authoritarian, meritocratic state that practices eugenics. There multiple competing African tribes, it isn't just Blacks vs Whites in South Africa. Also, the stability and average of a society is extremely important for creating high culture. If you are catering to the lowest common denominator you end up with garbage. You have to set the bar high and select only the people that can appreciate and make that bar. The White South Africans that make world wide hits also travel to more successful countries to get funding for their movies.

Wouldn't it make more sense for Black Filmmakers to just ask the South African government for money? Assuming this is the same government that already hands out grants to Black businesses, funding for a movie should follow the same principle.

This is actually what the Soviet Union did. In direct contrast to Capitalism in America, the Soviets were at least able to have their own Cinema, because Movies were paid for by the State. And believe it or not, even with the small budgets, many Western directors were impressed or influenced by what the Soviets were producing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/28/cinema-seven-soviet-sci-fi-films

There are several Black countries where this experiment could clearly be attempted, but the fundamental problem with all of them is it assumes that Black culture takes the same risks or values them the same way Whites or Japanese do. But the answer is that racially speaking, they are not equally capable to make these projects. And even when the opportunity does arise, then it's the same old movies about rappers, drugs, basketball or their life during slavery.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The same could have been said about Whites or even Japanese people. Especially when so many popular IP's have ridiculous origins but later became big hits. A movie about talking animals sounds stupid right? Except that's literally how we got Mickey Mouse and a slew of other Disney films. Or how about a video game based on a fat Italian plumber? Except Super Mario is the most recognizable game character out there.

The reason is because Japan is westernized and they share the same social problems created by technology and urbanization that occurs in western societies. I don't think a dilapidated, African society will have much in common with first world Asian and European societies. Western societies also export their culture into westernized Asian countries which in turn inspires Asian creators to create works that are liked by western audiences. The creator's might be doing it to appeal to a larger demographic, the novelty of a foreign culture or be an emergent hit.

I agree, although a film can still be popular without it. Michael Bay still finds work every year, even though his gimmick is "explosions".

When people say Michael Bay is a bad director they are talking about storytelling and thematic depth of his movies. He has good special effects and action scenes in his movies. Can you name a Black director that does special effects and action scenes better than Michael Bay blockbuster hits?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Black Filmmakers to just ask the South African government for money? Assuming this is the same government that already hands out grants to Black businesses, funding for a movie should follow the same principle.

It might be possible but do they have the operational knowledge and talent base or demand to make these type of movies? Western movies for example have better live action special effects than Asian live action films. Is this because of lack of IQ? Not necessarily because CG and cartoons are often contracted out to South Korea, Japan and Taiwan. They have the operational knowledge to have good special effects in live action films but they probably take short cuts because of budget constraints or there isn't a huge demand for it. Geniuses also need a stable society and the infrastructure to make technical masterpieces. How are you going to make a good movie if you have more immediate problems like the gang in the next town or making enough money for basic sustenance? The average of a society plays a huge part in its overall success.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The reason is because Japan is westernized and they share the same social problems created by technology and urbanization that occurs in western societies. I don't think a dilapidated, African society will have much in common with first world Asian and European societies. Western societies also export their culture into westernized Asian countries which in turn inspires Asian creators to create works that are liked by western audiences. The creator's might be doing it to appeal to a larger demographic, the novelty of a foreign culture or be an emergent hit.

I don't deny Japan has borrowed from Western influences. But the opposite is also true. Samurai's and Ninjas are native to Japanese culture, and yet Western Artists have borrowed those foreign ideas for their own works (i.e Mortal Kombat or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) . Ancient Japan as well is also a popular setting that still enjoys global success.

African culture differs from the rest of the world, but if they were smart, you don't treat that as a handicap, but find ways to write stories about them. Egypt is quite literally exists on the same continent. If [sub-saharan] Africans were really desperate for ideas, they would just look towards their culture and make the same movies or games about their neighbor.

When people say Michael Bay is a bad director they are talking about storytelling and thematic depth of his movies. He has good special effects and action scenes in his movies. Can you name a Black director that does special effects and action scenes better than Michael Bay blockbuster hits?

His special effects are also criticized. That doesn't mean it has no talent. It's true creating those blockbuster effects are time consuming and expensive. But at the same time, people see it as lazy film making because it comes off as obnoxious or a distraction.

My point was a Black director doesn't have to copy the Michael Bay stuff to still make a good movie. There are plenty of low budget or Indie movies who put more effort into actual screenplay and writing, and the reception has just been as good or positive.

A perfect example of this was the Star Wars parody "Hardware Wars". Even on a shoestring budget of $8,000, George Lucas admitted it was actually his favourite movie that referenced one of his own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_Wars#Reception

It might be possible but do they have the operational knowledge and talent base or demand to make these type of movies?

The answer is "Yes". South Africa has schools, that each the same programs on movie making like anywhere else in the world.

But here's where South Africa is stupid. Anybody who graduates from these classes and are serious about joining the film industry, will rather immigrate to another country instead. This is called brain drain, and it leads to the vicious cycle where any native talent who could of made a great South African feature, is immediately poached by another country instead.

In regards to the rest of Asia, I would argue that they are already catching up to the West, instead of just being a place to outsource effects. For example, this may surprise you but the highest grossing films of 2021 were not Western made. It's actually Chinese movies who have been breaking box office records. Now whether or not these Asian films actually do better globally is yet to be seen, but we know the potential exists, and they continue to invest more money into this industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_film

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ancient Japan as well is also a popular setting that still enjoys global success.

Yes, but there are many more pieces of Japanese created entertainment that is more popular in the West because it has a European aesthetic or is explicitly pandering to a western audience.

African culture differs from the rest of the world, but if they were smart, you don't treat that as a handicap, but find ways to write stories about them. Egypt is quite literally exists on the same continent. If [sub-saharan] Africans were really desperate for ideas, they would just look towards their culture and make the same movies or games about their neighbor.

I don't think ancient Egyptians are anything like Sub-Saharan Africans. There is a big difference between cultural inspiration and roleplaying as another race. Europeans are part of a shared history that have enough common with one another that the history of opposing European groups is a necessary part of understanding the question of their own ethnic group's "who we are" and "how did we get here."

But here's where South Africa is stupid. Anybody who graduates from these classes and are serious about joining the film industry, will rather immigrate to another country instead. This is called brain drain, and it leads to the vicious cycle where any native talent who could of made a great South African feature, is immediately poached by another country instead.

The brain drain is caused from lucrative opportunities abroad and lack of native infrastructure and organization. There are probably enough talent Blacks to make a decent movie, but do they have the ability to bring those people together to work on a project towards a common goal? You might have a director, but do you have all the other fields necessary to make a good movie like camera men, editors, marketers, technicians, actors, writers, etc. Bringing a bunch of different specialized occupations together to create a large scaled industry is difficult. There is also a possibility that African societies don't scale very well outside of small towns and villages. Even if they have skyscrapers and tall buildings the vast majority are just not interested in the same things as Asians and Europeans.

The Jewish problem plays a part because in areas where Blacks are coddled by Whites they have no interest in trying to compete with other races through culture. There identity only exists based on What Jews put into their minds and stupid victim narratives made up by their ancestors. They have no positive identity of themselves other than "When Whitey hurt us" and "When Whitey freed us from slavery". There is no culture beyond that for most Blacks beyond superficial status signaling.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but there are many more pieces of Japanese created entertainment that is more popular in the West because it has a European aesthetic or is explicitly pandering to a western audience.

Dude, you're underselling Japanese culture if you don't think there's a global interest in people exclusively looking for content that has a Japanese feel to it. If you play video games, you should be aware there's an entire genre called "JRPG" which literally implies Role Playing Games that are made with Japan's taste in mind.

Even the popularity of anime is specifically because Japan took cartoons that were similar to Disney in the beginning, but handcrafted it with a different approach to storytelling and style.

I don't think ancient Egyptians are anything like Sub-Saharan Africans. There is a big difference between cultural inspiration and roleplaying as another race.

How many Human beings do you know that are talking animals? Do you think Mickey Mouse was a real person? In the world of entertainment, there's a choice between realism and stuff that is completely fantasy. Nobody has to be an actual Ancient Egyptian to make movies about them or use their ideas, and I only used that example because it's literally the biggest setpiece that exists on their continent.

It's not unheard of completely different cultures to borrow from somebody else and still be popular. I mentioned Star Wars before, but the actual main characters (Jedi) are again, based on Japanese Samurai. The reference may have flew over most people's heads because they're interested in the lightsaber fights and robots, but it still doesn't change that George Lucas only created them because he was inspired by another culture first.

Bringing a bunch of different specialized occupations together to create a large scaled industry is difficult.

So why do Indie movies exist? I just posted that George Lucas favorite parody was made by a couple of guys with only $8,000. Not every movie project will have multi-million budgets but that's not an excuse to not make them ever. South Africa's problems are not about lack of resources. They even made a movie before and it still did ok (i.e District 9). But brain drain hurts them from potentially making more like this, because all the talented people keep leaving as opposed to staying behind and helping to develop the local industry.

The Jewish problem plays a part because in areas where Blacks are coddled by Whites they have no interest in trying to compete with other races through culture. There identity only exists based on What Jews put into their minds and stupid victim narratives made up by their ancestors. They have no positive identity of themselves other than "When Whitey hurt us" and "When Whitey freed us from slavery". There is no culture beyond that for most Blacks beyond superficial status signaling.

You're thinking too much about Black experiences living in the West. Especially since those things DON'T apply to native Africans who never even got on the boats and left.

[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this is u/jesus level trolling, good work!

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Dr. Hibbert, Fat Albert, Falcon (Avengers), Kwame (Captain Planet), 008, Cardi B, Lil Nas X. The list is endless.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To clear up any misconceptions, I don't mean "Black characters in media" I mean, "Media that was created by Blacks that emphasize intelligence".

As an easy comparison, look at Japanese Anime. Anytime you see Giant Robots, that's their culture having a love of technology. And as proof of their of ingenuity, they replicate their robots into real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYirnOIzEa4&t=3s

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In The Boondocks, the main protagonist Huey Freeman "is the family's moral compass and voice of reason. He is an intelligent, wise-beyond-his-years avid reader who is knowledgeable about a variety of subjects."

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Boondocks is a strange one. On one hand, it does make some good social observations, like the famous *nigga moment". But then 5 seconds later, it goes straight into the "police kill innocent blacks" hoax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj9Hzs-vBLE

I would concede Huey Freeman is a smart designed character, but for all the wrong reasons. He's a turbo SJW who hates Whites, when he should be a Black Nationalist like Malcolm X.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Malcolm X also hated whites.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He had no issues with inviting George Lincoln Rockwell to his speeches.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/1dc7k1/george_lincoln_rockwell_and_members_of_the/

It was the 1960s, and his "hatred" was justified when he rather live away from Whites in a separate Black ethnostate, than be forced next to them.

Contrast that with Martin Luther King, where his "love and equality" ended segregation, and lead to more Blacks and Whites killing each other.

[–]PunisherStickerGuy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You could probably dig around and find some examples. If we are focusing on film, the majority of black writers / directors tend to want to portray the reality they have experienced and most of the time it was pretty fucked up. John Singleton comes to mind as an example. ('Boyz N the Hood' ' 'Hustle and Flow'). What is wrong with that? Great movies? Up for debate, but they certainly telling a story and certainly put a spotlight on certain elements of our culture.

On this note but swerving into the intellectual realm would be 'The Great Debaters' strarring Denzel himself. Mr. Washington is quite a based person if you read into him. He rejects the oppression culture fostered here in the US. This film reflects this, in that it tells these story of people achieving intellectual integrity despite any circumstances.

These are just two examples off the top. We can go on if you would like.

We can move beyond the cultural garbage bin of modern streaming TV (Netflix) and explore actual literature and art of you care to.

Your call.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You could probably dig around and find some examples. If we are focusing on film, the majority of black writers / directors tend to want to portray the reality they have experienced and most of the time it was pretty fucked up. John Singleton comes to mind as an example. ('Boyz N the Hood' ' 'Hustle and Flow'). What is wrong with that? Great movies? Up for debate, but they certainly telling a story and certainly put a spotlight on certain elements of our culture.

I don't believe making such movies are "wrong", but it's terribly lame that they've built up an identity around "suffering". With Whites, there are movies that cover 9/11 or Pearl Harbor, but those things still pale in terms of other creative works like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, or Harry Potter.

If we were really to believe in the "equality of races", we would expect Blacks or Black Culture to regularly output the same media as Whites that explore the same thought provoking themes. The only other race that comes close are Japanese people.

[–]PunisherStickerGuy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sure, an industry has been built on exploiting the black "street thug" culture. It's a ravenous beast churning out cultural decay and terrible role models at an astonishing rate.

I chose Carpenter and Washington specifically for their incredibly insightful works which IMO rise above the fray and present deeply complex critiques of this "suffering" culture. Both works cited are specifically cited fir that reason which is why they remain cultural touchstones to this day.

[–]PunisherStickerGuy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, I must say, that's a pretty shallow take and is stretching at best. It's hard to put "9/11" movies (whatever that means) against an iconic piece of writing such as the "Harry Potter" series.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was the point. Everyone knows Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor sucked, and there where much bigger and cultural phenomenons created instead.

White media doesn't need to indulge itself on tragic historical events or suffering. Franchises like Robocop, Terminator, Sherlock Holmes, Avatar, Citizen Kane, Warcraft, Warhammer 40k, Toy Story, The Wizard of Oz etc are ingrained in White people's minds and feature complex or futuristic themes.

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Only his voice actor was Jewish.

    Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig and Elmer Fudd were created by a gentile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Avery