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[–]Girondin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[disclaimer: I only watched like 30 mins of it]

TLDR: STRDST thinks goodreads description is everything a book represents [abstract of a paper], Sean thinks that the content is important [specifically the results of a study], she also thinks that content is important and thinks Charles Murray is secretly spilling the beans on systemic racism [black kids are systemically disadvantaged] but she sees no contradiction. She thinks sean is conspiratorial for some reason. I still think Sean is a awful debater, but she was really dumb.

She is also constantly mixes morality with every question. She constantly has to justify black existence which feels very weird ("blacks can open doors", "blacks made jazz music [which is debatable historically as it was a fusionist genre]").

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Just tuned in to see the final statements. She packed it all in though. Lewontins fallacy, scientific consensus that race is a 'social construct' and calling it crazy that the ideas around whiteness studies are targeting whites. It's so laughable. Last deserves way better but apparently he's up against destiny next who will make the exact same points as this dizzy broad did but just faster, more aggressively and condescendingly and with more detail.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both Destiny and Vaush have plenty of tricks up their sleeves. This is part of why their cult followers deify them.

For example, whenever Vaush is criticized over why his private life is essentially bourgeois while he professes to be a communist, he pulls out the consequentialist card, i.e. if I accrue wealth that deprives some non-Marxist bourgeois of getting it instead, and on top of that I'll put the money to "good use". Of course, he spends it all on himself.

This is of course an easy weapon for Vaush to wield because Marxists tend towards consequentialism anyway, i.e. harming whoever we dislike is okay because our intended goal is utopia.

It's stupid for people to go into debates with these two without prior studying all of their previous "debates" and taking note of all of their strategies (and all having counter-strategies planned ahead) beforehand. They obviously have a goodie bag of strategies prepared before they go in, which they pull out and deploy throughout. One needs to understand both the contents of his opponent's goodie bag and have his own own superior one containing strategies his opponent is not prepared to counter.

This Sean Last guy is very much into empirical data, so the usual "source, do you have a source for that claim?" trick isn't going to work against him, at least.

[–]Girondin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She supposedly studied all of Sean's writing on race and systemic racism a week before this debate. Yet her answers were literally anti-racist responses ive heard a million times with no unique spin of them, you could literally auto-generate her responses.

[–]Girondin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

who the fuck is this bitch hes debating? She says she is a "milfist" on twitter and "debate thot" on youtube. But what is she, Vaush leftist? Destiny Centrist?

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Going by the intro video on her channel, a female imbecile.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This. Literally just an NPC brown girl some people listen to for some reason

[–]Girondin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"my political identity is pornography" - STRDST

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably just another grifter that is trying to make bank off leftist retards because of what's between her legs.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGf0F_u7DJE&t=0s

Debate starts in 8 minutes at that link.

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    [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Due to drama. It wasn't her own decision, she was pressured by leftists

    [–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Fucking hell, you were right man. She now calls herself "centrist host" lmao

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah this wasn't even a debate. More like an educational session. The patience Sean has is commendable but this wasn't even worth watching

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It actually reminded me of one of those 'debates' Ryan Dawson has where after 30 minutes it becomes apparent the other guy is out of his depth and the whole thing turns into a lecture.

    [–]Girondin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The poll has come out Sean has 90% consensus that he won.