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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

America, Canada and Britain. These three are the holy trinity of cuckoldry and liberalism. Its ironic how American libs used to think it was the other way around and that Europeans were enlightened liberals and America was this dark right wing swamp.

In reality, America is ground zero for globohomo. The enforcer of the liberal world order.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

America is more conservative but mostly in ways that are irrelevant.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of American "conservatism" is completely antithetical, but some is useful even if it isn't necessarily based. Lolbertism is cringe as hell but at least it staves off the banning of firearms and defense, so we aren't gimped as hard as Britbongs.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Europe IS more "liberal" in economy, because the welfare state is well established. That's what the conservatives think about when they say so.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

The welfare state is well established because Europeans don't have the crippling financial burden of paying for their own defense. They have an idiot to do it for them. We could easily have free college for everyone, pay off the whole country's debts, have a border wall 100 feet tall, and a pony - for what it takes to defend Europe. And in return we get their scorn and open contempt.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Honestly mate, Americans invaded my country, we are still not allowed to have nuclear weapons and, while having the largest army in Europe numerically, we are forced to have American bases all over the country. If you to withdraw, you have my blessings.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

We tried, man...we tried. Trump ordered our troops out. Unfortunately he was overruled by our real rulers in the Pentagon. He tried to withdraw from Afghanistan and Syria too, and had his orders ignored there, too. Afghanistan had to be pure spite, as we finally did it so that Biden could get the credit for ending the war instead of Trump.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm Italian. I'm asking for a withdrawal from Italy. Invasion took place in 1944.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Oh, the other Axis power. Sure, troops out of there, too. Leave you Europeans and watch the fun as you have to fund your own defense, and to do it you have to cut your oh-so-special welfare state. The screaming would be exquisite. And the delicious irony that it was because of your own shitheadedness and ingratitude for 80 years of peace. Oh, it would be glorious.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Mhhh we have over 2 million soldiers if I recall correctly. We don't have that much projection power, but we have a very strong defensive army. Anyway yeah let's see.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What?! No. Italian army is 350,000. Why it exists, I have no idea. Its most famous characteristic is its incompetence. “gl’italiani non si battono”

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You are right, i totally forgot the actual number. we're still the biggest EU army. https://imgur.com/a/PKTUHte

Btw, i can't tell if you know italian or nay, but the meaning of that phrase is "you can't win over italians", which is strange given the contex.

[–]oakenwheels 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Why the need for defense? What happened to nuclear deterrence?

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In the tiny countries of Europe, exploding nukes to repel an invading army is less than ideal.

[–]oakenwheels 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But the thing with deterrence is the threat of it is enough to keep the enemy army out of your country. They know you have nukes they don't invade. Otherwise you bomb them with nukes. You know, the Cold War thing?

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Depends on the situation, but in many cases they would be nuking themselves and their other neighbors too. Not every country would be happy about being showered with your radioactive fallout, just because you were angry with a different neighbor.

You can't just "use nukes" whenever you want.

[–]oakenwheels 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the main argument for the presence of US forces in EU is threat from Russia and the like.

Not every country would be happy about being showered with your radioactive fallout

Exactly why a bully country would meet resistance from many EU countries, due to creating the threat of nuclear fallout. Thus no US forces necessary?

EDIT: It's called 'nuclear parity':

https://www.armscontrol.ru/start/publications/dkp0731.htm

Obviously, Moscow was not satisfied with the situation that a total retaliatory strike, and hence unlimited nuclear war (equal to suicide), was the only response in the case of an escalating limited conflict. Thus, the USSR made titanic efforts and achieved relative nuclear parity with the USA in the early 1970s. The system of strategic nuclear weapons created a state of strategic balance in which each party possessed the capability to inflict unacceptable damage in a retaliatory strike – the essence of the concept of mutually assured destruction. At the same time, at this stage, neither party, theoretically, had the ability to gain superiority after exchanging counter-force strikes. However, the USA continued to seek such superiority. The most vivid example was the US forward deployment of nuclear forces in Europe and the Reagan doctrine of limited nuclear war.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was on the East German border, at the Fulda Gap breakthrough point, way back. They told me our life expectancy was about 3 minutes if it kicked off. 🤕

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

American leftists : "You're not native to this land (USA). So it was never yours to begin with".

Also them : "Why are you Europeans spreading nationalism in your own homeland? This continent belongs to everyone".

Nothing boils my blood as much as their hypocrisy.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You see the same hypocrisy with diversity in entertainment. It is progressive to have non Europeans in European history or fantasy stories but it is racism to have a European play a role from a non European story.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In one such case I argued - If race is a social construct and we're all the same and belong to the "human race" then what's the problem with 100% white cast? After all, they are all human. Got no reply.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's why: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/

I hope that cleared it up for you.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

American leftists : "You're not native to this land (USA). So it was never yours to begin with".

You know what's even more sinister than this? The same Leftists are the ones who push for open borders and mass immigration.

They're fine with letting in millions of Syrians, Chinese or Guatemalans, even though none of them are related to the Amerindians.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is the argument I use while debating them.

"So you want to invite the entire world? Did you ask the natives you seem to care for? Are you sure the Amerindians would approve the migration of millions of people from the third world?"

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The head spinning they feel (if they do) is probably comparable to this video of a Native naming one to his face

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/298/934/original/d6e972e49e7aef22.mp4

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    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not sure, just came across it.

    [–]IkeConn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    They won't like Japan, Korea, or China either. You assimilate there or you leave.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You just leave, period. None of them allow immigration.

    You might live there for a while working but you'll always go home.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I was actually hesitant to spread white pills about Denmark exactly because of this, but I thought the light in the dark outweighted the potential risk.

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        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        What is with you people and your insistence of 5,000 word posts?

        You forgot to use all caps, but we'll forgive you this time.

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          [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

          That gigantic graphic you linked, which is so big it slows down my computer and can't be read unless in full size mode, and likely contains several thousand words. Why is it you people love these things? Are you just really poor at communicating ideas to others?

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            [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            So do you understand that nobody reads these? Or not?

            Effective communication is brief.

            [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I opened it on my cell just now to see what the deal was here without an issue, and it's 3 years old.

            That said, infographics are amazing for information (and shitposts). It's sort of dumb to just dismiss information like that, especially when it's laid out in a conveniently ordered format.

            Effective communication is brief, but you're talking about information that an opposing audience would likely ignore regardless of how short it is.

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              [–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Nothing wrong with what you posted

              [–]NormChompsky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Ugly people generally hate beautiful people. Why do you think minorities hate white people. Then they see all the beautiful blue eyed blond Danes and they get so jealous that they want to fill their country with ugly minorities and take over.

              [–]TrabWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Like many of the comments saying isn't that just a policy in place to try and enforce more "integration" and not have ethnic neighborhoods?

              And yes integration is a joke

              [–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Yes, anti immigration danes didn't like this policy. It's a way to "hide" the problems