Serious question for white nationalists

submitted by NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! from self.debatealtright

The political mission of the alt-right/white nationalism is often expressed in the 14 words. In other words, the goal is to secure a future for White children. I am wondering, does this include all White children, even those with below average IQ, those who are on welfare and even raised by (gasp!) single mothers? Or are those White children excluded? I have seen numerous white nationalist writings and comments that speak of "underclass" whites as a kind of genetic enemy, no better than non-whites, while I have virtually never seen a white nationalist stick up for them. So if they the children of the "underclass" are excluded from the 14 words, should you not make that clear and remove all ambiguity?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Does Japanese nationalism end when a single retarded Jap kid is born? If the answer is "no", why would it be different for Whites?

You know 50 years ago, they would just put people who were classified as "insane" in the mental institutions. Yet America or Canada were still overwhelmingly White. There's no need to overthink it, when the blueprints for a successful civilization already exist.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That wasn't what I was asking. And you aren't a white nationalist anyway.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I support Whites maintaining an ethnic majority in their homelands, so by definition, that's nationalist.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok, whatever you are, you weren't answering my question.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If someone is born White, their IQ is completely irrelevant.

Just like how Japanese people don't distinguish themselves for how smart they are. You either have Japanese blood, or you don't.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White nationalism has nothing to do with single mothers or low iq whites.

You can be a single mother and a white nationalist, you can be low iq white nationalist, you can be whatever white nationalist.
You can also be a white nationalist that dislike single mothers. You can be a white nationalist that want 90% taxes.

White nationalism is just that. Whatever else you want to add to that is up to the individual.

[–]Erasmus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have seen numerous white nationalist writings and comments that speak of "underclass" whites as a kind of genetic enemy

Which ones? Care to toss out some quotes?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I have seen numerous white nationalist writings and comments that speak of "underclass" whites as a kind of genetic enemy, no better than non-whites, while I have virtually never seen a white nationalist stick up

Where are these numerous writings out of interest? I've never seen anything like this and I've been doing this for a while.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Just one example among many:

It’s not hard to see why modern society continues to decompose around us. The Jews have pretty much removed all incentive for the most able elements within society to try to ‘succeed’. That’s not to say that we shouldn’t try to make our lives better wherever possible, we definitely should. The point is that with the system set up the way it is – taxing the hell out of those who earn more, then giving it to an undeserving class of scum – to put it mildly, it’s certainly no way to create a better society. We end up with what we see now – a completely dependent welfare class (mostly coloured) that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

https://expeltheparasite.com/2014/02/04/why-does-everyone-want-to-be-a-victim/

Poor people = "an undeserving class of scum, to put in mildly", and then he says they are "mostly coloured", but not entirely, so he's talking about poor whites too.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

So what's the source. You said you've seen numerous writings.

Edit: you put it in. So your source is a total rando person no one has ever heard of but you who doesn't use his name. Any chance of linking to someone saying this any of us might have read. You said you've seen numerous examples of this. I'm not going to defend some total random schizo persons post because I know nothing about them or their potential motivations unlike a person like Greg Johnson, Jared Taylor or Mike Enoch.

[–]NeoRail 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

An additional thing worth noting is that nothing in the quoted section actually relates to the OP. The quote in no way claims that poor whites are not truly white, that the interests of poor whites should be ignored, or anything at all about poor whites, as a matter of fact. The term "welfare class" by no means refers to the working class or the poor more generally. It seems to me that the author is referring to people exclusively reliant on welfare who have no intention to ever work and live for themselves. This is a phenomenon that is certainly exclusive to liberal democratic regimes which did not exist either under fascist or communist governments.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I linked the source there retard

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No need to get rude. Btw are you the same guy who used to have the account which was a big fan of limonov?

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This troll account definitely reminds me of that Courbeaux guy, if that's who you are referring to. His posts were based on the same type of contrived and nonsensical premises.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can't quite remember his name but that might be it. It's the tactic of making really general claims about WN's and what they think and claiming these are widespread ideas while only citing the most obscure and totally unknown examples imaginable that is so familiar and reminds me of another NazBol guy who was a fan of Limonov.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From my perspective, the common elements seem to be the obnoxious attitude and the constant use of false dichotomies. I am also left with the feeling that the OP is LARPing as a NazBol in order to discredit the economic interventionist position with his conduct and try to push people towards libertarianism.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No need to get rude

That is literally all you ever do. You relentlessly insult people left and right, whether people like Republican58 who deserve it or people like me.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stop whining. You deserve it as well. Anyway I'm turning over a new leaf. So any sources from more prominent wn figures? What you linked to is the intellectual equivalent of showing me some screed you found drawn in marker on a bathroom wall.

Also you are the limonov guy right?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Btw to answer your question I believe in racial advocacy as a form of class reconciliation for white people. I've always defended poorer whites and struggling whites and always will and tell to every IQ absolutist sperg I can find that it's the so called lower stock whites who are still sensible and have healthy racial instincts while our more cognitively gifted people do their best to destroy us.

I don't know what you've been reading or how you've missed that attitude which is quite common in my experience but there you go.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

while our more cognitively gifted people do their best to destroy us.

Gifted people seem more redpilled and right-wing in my experience. Like the distribution meme.

The midwits and above-average whites are just more numerous and left-wing.