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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

A terrible decision, now Texas' demographics will accelerate further into the shitter along with crime going up, IQ going down etc.

The Republicans exist solely to destroy the white race, far more than the Democrats. The Democrats are anti-white in speech but in action they give you tax credits, healthcare, end the wars, force the FBI to release 9/11 documents etc. The Republicans pretend to be your friend whilst they open your border, kill your cousin with opiates that you other cousin died in Afghanistan to procure for ZOG, ban abortion so your race gets displaced etc.

[–]Bagarmoossen 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

The demographic effects will be marginal, if there are any at all. White children are also being killed on an industrial scale by the abortion industry. Abortion is primarily a moral issue with extremely wide-reaching social and cultural consequences and we should not frame it in terms of "percentage of non-white vs. white children killed". It is terrible optics and diverts us from the core issue here, which is hyper-individualistic, selfish women being allowed to kill their children without the father's consent because they don't want to deal with the consequences of their reckless actions.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

No, 39% of abortions are white. This is massive underrepresentation.

The people who get abortions are: stupid, drug addicted, single parents, financially unstable etc. Why would you want to force these people to have children, just for those children to be neglected or abused on average? A minority of them might have 2 parent families, and maybe a tiny percentage of them would have a decent life. The vast majority of them are going to have terrible lives, all because of you weirdo radical liberals that push liberal egalitarianism to its most extreme with psuedo-moralism.

This is before even mentioning rape, incest, disabilities etc.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

So you think that it is OK to kill WHITE children because they are poor?

The reason why poor White children have a terrible life is because our capitalist shithole society treats poor people like shit. Instead of advocating killing the children of the poor, why not advocate a socialist system that throws the rich Jews out of power and helps poor people have a decent life?

By the way I don't know any European third positionist group who advocate your ideology. First shilling (((vaccines))), now supporting abortion of White children. A real third positionist would support increasing the White birth rate by any means necessary and providing help for all Whites to live a decent life, regardless of anything else.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I do advocate that system, but that system doesn't exist now so why would I fight to create more suffering for white people? Retard moment

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

More suffering white people = more angry revolutionaries to recruit.

But aside from that, how is killing White children justified by anything? Ask any third postionist in Europe whether they are OK with white abortions. No serious one is.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Curious, all of a sudden you know a bunch of third positionists and they're not just these retards you make up. Almost as if you're just a bad actor who makes shit up constantly.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No, I know a lot about the European third positionist movement. Where is your source that they hold your views?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Where is your source I ever claimed any particular group agrees with me about literally anything ever? Why would I care about such a thing? You're a really dumb kike if you think this kind of thing is effective forum sliding.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't. But you insist that third positionists DON'T agree with my view.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What's your source for the 39% stat?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So you're okay with feeding the pharma-jew as many fetus/baby body parts as it wants?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

The white nationalist argument that abortion is good because it's used primarily by non-whites is a deal-breaker for the majority of religious conservatives. I think this argument is an intentionally planted poison-pill because this single topic will forever keep white nationalism from gaining a foothold in politics.

There's no need to push rhetoric that most people find repulsive. The key to forming a white nationalist movement is to promote culture and community. People are naturally drawn to other people of like-mind/values (culture) and people who share cultural values tend to also share skin-color.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't particularly care what's a deal breaker for extremely low IQ, liberal-egalitarian, decaying old people to be honest with you. They aren't the target demographic for a national-liberation, revolutionary vanguard.

Abortion is objectively good, it alleviates a LOT of unnecessary suffering. You can be horrified at the depravity of abortion whilst also recognising it is a necessary evil because without it every single one of those babies would have had a horrible life and the vast majority of them would go on to be anti-social in many respects.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that there seems to be a consensus that those potential babies were all going to have incredible lives through someone that ended up adopting them, or even if they went into the foster care system that all foster carers are beacons of love and self sacrifice to better the children in their care. Or maybe believe that the mother or mother's family would realize that it's a human life, and suddenly drop all bad habits, becoming an excellent member of society and perfect parent. There's also the thought processes that the child could grow up to be an incredibly successful person, defy all odds, cure cancer, etc.. I'm pretty sure that there's a huge level of cognitive dissonance that comes into play when pro-lifers discuss abortion, like they'll make every attempt possible to lie to themselves about the fate of these children and reason that no matter what they're valid and will somehow be cared for-- and dismiss the details for what usually happens to unwanted children. It's just like cognitive dissonance with any other topic, really.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Their arguments for the value of the unborn rely on the same liberal mysticism that left-libtards do when a black gets himself killed attacking police.

"That baby would have had a great life and went on to be a productive member of society etc" is the rightoid equivalent of "he a good boy, he was getting his life together, getting his GED n shieet."

Being trapped in stupid liberal thinking leads people completely unable to think anything through reasonably.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Where you're wrong is the generalization that ALL of these evangelicals (or even a large chunk of them) are, "Decaying old people."

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hilarious you acknowledge a generalisation and then immediately still strawman. This comment couldn't have been more obtuse, dishonest, and retarded if you tried.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You shouldn't be so attached to religious conservatives, you should lead them out of it instead of sinking down to their level.

Abortions are completely voluntary, while these looneys want to force more downies and non-whites into the world.

It's even funnier because they say "is in da Bible maaaan" while Bible quite literally doesn't have a problem with smashing babies heads against the rock.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

you should lead them out of it instead of sinking down to their level

I should start leading people away from their faith which, for most people (of faith) makes up a significant part of their core values/beliefs? That's pretty absurd. How is stating a fact, "Sinking down to their level?" I'm suggesting that white nationalists leave some of their less-palatable rhetoric behind, because with it as baggage, the movement will never reach critical-mass. The fight to protect the USA's white-majority is already over--it was lost well-over a decade before the most recent census numbers were published. The goal should now be to promote Anglo culture/values amongst the remaining Anglosphere of America. It just so happens that the core of Anglo culture is Christianity and the majority of Christians are instantly turned off by rhetoric that supports the murder of children regardless of the child's color. Red-pilling is a step-by-step process. The typical normie conservative will completely shut down when confronted with pro-baby murder rhetoric. It doesn’t matter if you agree with that normie on every other topic imaginable because the topic of abortion is for many a 1-issue voting topic.

Do you want a movement that actually succeeds or are you content memeing and making edgy comments on dar and /pol/?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This sinking down to be more palatable has never worked. It only leads to Q-tier bafoonery. You have to get rid of Big Normie mindset, Jews never "redpilled" anyone, they (mis)led and (mis)guided people instead.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews never "redpilled" anyone, they (mis)led and (mis)guided people instead.

So... you're suggesting we mislead and misguide people so they do our bidding? Q-tier bafoonery only exists when people allow it to exist. Even Alex Jones told people that Q was a psi-op. Comparing this to the Q psi-op is nothing but, false equivalence.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am not suggesting that.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No offense, but that has never worked.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TIL babies volunteer to die in their mother's womb

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I won't disagree because I agree on personal level that it's disgusting, but you have to look at it policy-wise.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Awful take.

The democrats also institute hate speech laws, ruthlessly crack down on pro white organisations, enable social media to censor and suppress the right, open the border, grant mass amnesty to illegals, in grain social liberalism into society, in particular education and on your war point..

The democrats got us into both world wars, the Korean war,Vietnam war,Afghanistan,Libya,Somalia etc. Biden's cabinet is filled with warmongering globalists.

Exactly why Brits should probably refrain from takes on US politics.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The democrats also institute hate speech laws, ruthlessly crack down on pro white organisations, enable social media to censor and suppress the right, open the border, grant mass amnesty to illegals, in grain social liberalism into society, in particular education and on your war point..

The Republicans do all of this too, but without anything positive to counterbalance it.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No they don't. The party has its flaws but that's justt straight up lie.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mate people have BTFOd you on these exact points dozens of times across your accounts. Nobody is falling for your kike shilling.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Also this happened: https://www.mobilize.us/mobilize/event/397443/

Only time Republicans talked about USS Liberty is when Groypers trolled Charlie Kirk with it, and he attacked them for "peddling conspiracy theories".

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do they actually talk about Israel doing it on purpose or are they running cover though?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sailors said they're strongly suspecting Israel did it on purpose, and they said it was weird how that is the only ally that attacked US and it gets covered up.

Didn't go full JQ, but oh well, boomers gonna boomer, it's better than 99% of them out there.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Have you considered that retarded blacks kill mostly other blacks?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's preferable for both of them to have never been born than for one to kill the other after both of them have already been committing crime for years, costing the public untold amounts. Then one of them goes to prison costing more money to keep him. Why not just allow them both to be aborted?

[–]DisgustResponse 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've always thought of abortion as a red herring topic. It's one of a select few social issues conservatives are allowed to have divergent opinions on. The moral and philosophical value of equality? The divergent responsibilities and relationships of men and women? Consanguinity as the foundation of a nation? No one wants to hear it. But abortion for some reason, this private and discrete matter has become a political lightning rod. It raises my suspicions. Personally, I think it's vile and contemptible to alter the natural course of birth for the principal reason of "I'm not ready yet". But I don't have strong feelings. It's for women to bicker about, which is why maybe it's allowed to occupy the common discourse.

I think there's probably more value in making states more hostile to liberal values than the big-brained demographic "70% of abortions are non white." take. With the latter, you're counting on a lot of things, like that immigration isn't used as a weapon against low birth rates. Laws that help to geographically sort and delineate between liberals and conservatives will be helpful in the long run.

[–]RuckusChan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure why this is 'Alt-Right'...the AltRight thing seemed like a fake phrase on day one with fake taking head clowns but back to Abortion. I don't get the whole baby making business thing or abortion industry, for me its mostly a non-issue but I don't see why any of this should or could be Tax Payer funded... How will taxes of the USA and the Western world be spent?

These days its sometiems an idea of popping out kids and expecting the US tax payer to raise them. However I would not support an extreme Communists system, China's Birth Control, One Child Family Planning Policy is far too extreme but I do however think some countries could do with a little social control, the dirt poor third world 'shithole' countries, the ones that have far too much poverty and kids sent to a life of child labor inside corrupt countries where women are the baby maker machiens and continue to pop out 8 or 9 or 10 kids.

I also don't understand the West sometimes, its glorification of degeneracy in the media, crime on tv, booze and drunks, the worship of killing the unborn baby, it seems kind of hendonist selfish and cruel. Why fund the mistakes of these idiots when any idiot knows if you fuck you can make kids, they don't want to take responsibility for their actions so then want tax payers to fund Abortions. I don't know what is the true answer, it seems the West is lost these days or stuck in some sort of decline. I also understand that for every issue there may be exceptional circumstances such as a deformed baby threatening the life of the mother or someone getting pregnant after crimes and rapes, so there should be unusual exceptions where a government helps fund something but stupidity and bad lifestyles should never be tax payer funded. I don't however see why US Taxpayer money just fund abortions for the lifestyle of hedonists, drunk and stoners get rewards and thearpy, getting their abortions funded, reward bad behavior with funding for people who do not take personal responsibility when they go fucking. Maybe some of them they could be made give up the child for a small fee and given to couples who are unable to make kids, so why fund their abortions when they screw about and have sex around the place like some copulating animals in some jungle? What is really weird is how the Big Globalist Food Companies got into the business and are now using human abortion cells and putting them into Foods as 'flavors' HEK 293 Cell can be found inside Kraft Foods Campbell Soup, Solae and Nestlé.

[–]Bagarmoossen 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I view abortion as morally repulsive and a crime against God and/or nature. Women who abort are baby killers and should be treated as such. I cannot bring myself to view these whores as anything other than subhuman. It is objectively and profoundly evil to rip an unborn child from its comfortable, natural place, suffocate it and throw its lifeless body in a trash can. That is what the process of abortion amounts to. Christians call it satanic but you don't have to be religious to see the pure, unalloyed evil in this. Abortion clinics are slaughterhouses and any society that tolerates their existence deserves to be destroyed.

Leaving these moral considerations aside, on-demand abortion is also one of the pillars of sexual liberation (along with contraceptives), and the possibility of simply slaughtering the baby at your own will removes the sense of accountability from women who choose to ride the cock caroussel like mad instead of behaving as they are intended to behave (that is, being mothers and nurturers). If we wish to restore the "natural order" then we simply cannot allow women to forego their natural role without suffering any consequences. The same goes for men, btw. This is why divorce should also be outlawed.

Politically speaking, the Texas law is a positive development. The fact that killing an unborn child is viewed as a "right" by society is a testament to the moral bankruptcy of the modern West. It is good that this "right" that is taken for granted by so many is being questioned. It also diverts the left's attention and energy as they are sure to go apeshit about it.

[–]ayotollahsinIran 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What about in cases of rape or the child being born into poverty? Or how about threat to the mother's life or if the child will be born with crippling mental and physical ailments making their life horrible and parasitic on society?

[–]Bagarmoossen 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Rape and deformities are extreme cases. I do not necessarily oppose abortion during early pregnancy in such situations. The problem for me is that Abortion, incl. mid- and late-term, has become generalized and getting rid of a baby on-demand for absolutely ridiculous reasons is considered legitimate.

I don't think poverty serves as a justification for preventing a birth. Poor people can also improve their lives if they work hard enough. Why not give them a chance?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

2nd and 3rd term abortions (and loss of pregnancy at all) can fuck up the cervix and make it incompetent for future pregnancies. Unfortunately, there are some extreme cases of deformity and other situations that can occur with the fetus that don't show up until later in pregnancy as well.

Regarding poverty, it's difficult enough for people with a viable education to find decent work. The US doesn't even have maternity leave that's worth a damn in most instances, so you've lost that same level of income for the post partum period. There's also childcare, which is the cost of rent/month in many areas. Government assistance only helps until you meet a certain income threshold, and that's not very high. Then you're left wondering what to do while you have to scrape by. Not all of those women are in coupled relationships, some may have a nonexistent support system and not have a home safety net.

It's easy to assume that these women were the dregs of society, and should have maybe chosen better partners or kept their legs closed. It's easy to say young families should have just pulled up their bootstraps or whatever the hell the saying is to make more money. It's a lot easier to have an opinion and tell people what they should have done than it is to walk in their footsteps and make those mistakes yourself.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elites allow conservatives to advocate and pass abortion laws so that they can get women voting democrat. This isn't a win for Texas and in the long run will increase the non white population of Texas until whites have no political control over the state.

edit. A simpler statement of my views: pro life in areas with large white populations but don't frame it that way to any normies.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Whites need to think on an absolute scale. Maintaining absolute numbers is more important than pinching percentages with blacks in the US. It doesn’t matter how many blacks you abort, tens of millions of Latinos are going to pour over from across the Mexican border regardless.

The question is that if abortion had never been allowed, how many whites would there be today? My guess is at least 10-20 million more.

In any case, I’m not fanatical about abortion. Abortion should be encouraged for fetuses with abnormalities and for poor and ugly parents. In other cases, it should be illegal, barring rape, incest, or threat to the mother’s life.

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    [–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Interesting how you are OK with encouraging it for poor parents though. Fuck both of you.

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      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      The guy just makes shit up. Ignore him, will prolly just ban him

      [–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I wasn't making anything up. I was responding to what you said. Why are you such an insufferable autist?

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      No you didn't, you made up some random shit about me hating poor people and shilling for vaccines. 2 things that have literally nothing to do with anything I've ever said, why are you such an insufferable lying kike?

      [–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I said you support abortion of white children because you stated that explicitly. And I have seen you defend the vaccine before.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Nope, I don't care about the vaccine. I just said that stupid conspiracy theories about it being a bioweapon and shit make zero sense and people should stop doing it because it makes them look retarded and schizophrenic.

      I do support the abortion of any children. Those children would otherwise be neglected or abused and grow up to be criminals, drug addicts, mentally ill, LGBT etc. Why would I want to force a life of suffering on white children? I'd much rather have never existed than grow up with a homeless drug addict single mother. Even if you take the unicorn abortion that is a decent couple who are mentally healthy, financially stable etc, if they don't want the kid they obviously aren't going to give a shit about taking care of it, you would still be neglected at best. There might be a 1 in a million case where a baby who would've been aborted has a decent life, the rest of them would have had a horrific life and end up extremely fucked up. Any sane person wouldn't want millions more of these kinds of people in their country, it's literally only radical egalitarian liberals who argue for this nonsense.

      [–]RuckusChan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's the final stage of collapse. Last stage of the 'mouse utopia' experiment...the beautiful ones. There is a video the "Behavioral sink" by John B. Calhoun.

      [–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      According to the CDC, there were 55,140 abortions performed in Texas in 2018. Of those, 72.8% of the operations were performed on non-white women.

      [–]Hates__PeachPeach Leftists Hate 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Pro-life victories have at least two instrumental goods for the DR.

      The first is simple. It plain and simply makes Leftists even more mad, like a smaller version of Trump's victory. That in itself is meaningless, but consequently they then threaten to do various things which benefit us. Emigrate? They will move around other people like themselves, leading to increased self-segregation. Commit violence? Pigs and Leftists fighting just means two problems weaken each other. They also only commit violence in their own areas (i.e. 'blue' cities—Portland has been Democrat-controlled since 1980). Suicide? Who cares if they off themselves? They become more deranged, insufferable and radicalized when they feel that an 'American Reich' or 'Gilead' is just around the corner to threaten 'progress'. Is there a single thing that they do at that point which is bad for us, excepting those in power? Fence-sitting is increasingly impossible—people increasingly need to define themselves in relation to the hegemonic Left; that is, I'm either with them or against them, but I cannot ignore them any longer. That leads to my second point.

      It leads to increasing polarization along party lines, which is always good in countries where we are sympathetic to neither party. Polarization in a country where one party approaches being deserving of our support (e.g. Hungary) can work against us; polarization in a country where both parties are undeserving (e.g. Britain, US, Germany) only works for us. Dems and Repubs hating each other more and more is a good thing, since it damages the Dem-Repub duopoly and encourages the proliferation of new political parties (any of which may be better for us, few of which could possibly be worse than what we already have). The weakening of the duopoly also increases the chances of any other party actually forming government, which is simply impossible in the contemporary USA.

      Alot of the pro-choice 'advantages' for the DR seem so pointless to me to the point that I can't add them to any comparison of the pros and cons of abortion. Hoping that it will reduce the number of non-whites so that White minoritization is delayed seems pointless. You're delaying it by, what, maybe a few months or years at the very most? National IQ will also decrease regardless of abortion, which at best just decreases the speed of the decline very slightly. Finding these arguments appealing just shows desperation. It's clutching at straws. I'd rather increased polarization, self-segregation, secessionism, etc.—things that encourage the creation of spaces in which we can survive while everyone else suffers the consequences of their own stupidity—over a minuscule delay in minoritization that changes nothing in the long run. So what if what would normally happen in 2033 is delayed till 2034 or 2035?

      Even if abortion became so unpopular that opposing it destroyed the GOP, the void will likely only be rapidly filled by the Libertarians who would get most of the Republican electorate and who are barely any different or worse in the current year. Potentially better parties will inherit much of the rest and have a chance of becoming a serious third-party. So I do not care if the GOP commits collective suicide either, since they are but a few years behind the Dems on most issues like alphabet acceptance. The 'Caitlin for Governor' thing shows that they're even pro-trans in 2021. There will be exceedingly little difference between them, especially if the GOP establishment restores its control over the party.

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      My overall opinion is that it's a good ruling but, done for the wrong reasons. I believe this is the SCOTUS way of placating conservatives--this along with the recent ruling that forces the Biden admin to reinstate the Remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. The abortion ruling will lead to a fight. Another judge is already interfering and the Biden admin says the Justice Department will be getting involved.

      [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Wedge issues that disincentivize shitlibs from moving to the state may result in net positives.

      That's irrespective of ethical disagreements.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      It's interesting that the DR is just as torn on abortion as the general white populace is.

      I'm even torn myself. On one hand the pro life mormons, amish, and conservatives are keeping the white race alive. They produce quality white people and we owe them a debt of gratitude. The birthing rate of liberals and probably most alt right people is much lower than pro life 'quiver full' whites. I absolutely do NOT want to counter signal those folks.

      That being said it's hard to ignore the fact that most abortions are non whites and that a hardcore ban on abortion would significantly increase the non white population living among us.

      This is a tough issue with good arguments on both sides. I like that you've managed to look at the issue more pragmatically. Your, 'protect the state' approach might be a good way to frame things going forward. We need states like Idaho, Texas and Florida to become a mecca for /ourguys and gals/ to flock too and make white babies. We are going to need shelter from the increasingly bizarre anti white and genocidal laws coming down from the feds and the last shelter for us might be these maverick states. At the very least we might be able to form legit third party groups in these states and then use those political groups to gain control of the state and force balkanization into the mainstream discussion.

      Bottom line: we can't let the issue of abortion divide the DR like it has divided north american whites for so many decades. Let's figure out a position we can all get behind. Pro white natalism is something we can all agree on.

      [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The thing about abortion is that it's one thing on which it's impossible to be purely rational and calculative. Call me soft but the idea of snuffing out a helpless life in the womb just...doesn't strike me as something conscionable. Plus, you have consider how many white children are also being snuffed out.

      The US has already become a non-white country and whatever percentages you think you are saving abortion is vastly overwritten by massive immigration from Latin America and China. Whites should think on a global scale like Jews. Being a global minority, they should think about preserving absolute numbers.

      My guess is that there would be at least 20-30 million more whites in the US today if abortion had never been legalized. Sure there would be 20 million more blacks but you'll get 20 million blacks more regardless as they open the gates to Africa. So in the end, the only difference is that you lose 20-30 million whites in the long run.

      [–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I am pro life for healthy, non dysgenic whites, pro abortion for many blacks in particular. For downs syndrome, mentally retarded, and other deformities, abortion should be compulsory. Steilization or euthanasia should be compulsory for others inherently and obviously unfit to breed.

      [–]Ponderer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      It seems this is the only type of stupid "wins" that conservatives can get.

      I agree that it's hardly a "win", and more like something conservative legislatures do to act like they're standing for "conservative values".

      That said, one potential silver lining I've heard is that it will prevent liberals from moving to Texas and turning it blue.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That said, one potential silver lining I've heard is that it will prevent liberals from moving to Texas and turning it blue.

      Easily offset multiple times over by the non-whites born and the subsequent white decline caused by interracial murders.

      [–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The pro life people demand control over a woman's body, best solution is have the abortion in some other state. And woman need to join forces and fight back.

      [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      #texashateswomen is trending on twitter. This may galvanize feminist shrews in a way that is not helpful. I sympathetic to a prolife stance in certain circumstances, but with a 10k bounty, no exceptions for rape or incest, this may be a bad law both in terms of policy but also strategically....

      [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It is a pretty radical law but worthless, that is why I hate Republicans. You would never see that take such a radical approach to some like say immigration or globalist corporate power.

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        [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Right, except some of the over the top provisions may gain sympathy from fence sitters.

        [–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Rich people get D and C's. Poor people get abortions. Looks like Texas is going to be overrun with poor people in the future.

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        Abortion is necessary for sexual liberation. Once it's banned there will be less of that degeneracy.