The most annoying thing about the Chappelle controversy is the amount of idolatry he is getting from conservatives.

submitted by JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist from self.debatealtright

Becase the "woke" community has been going after Chappelle he is now highly promoted and celebrated by many conservatives. In reality his ideology is the same as most "progressive" black America, which is "fuck them bitches, fuck them homos, fuck them trannies, white people be racist and oppressing us blacks and no one cares". I watched some of his recent special and it is the same mainstream black victim narrative about racist white America. Much of his criticism of gays and trans is that they are getting more support than oppressed blacks which is a lie. No group is more pandered and ass kissed than black Americans but Chappelle has the typical delusional black victim complex.

I am tired of seeing him praised as a "based" comic because he offended trannies.

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[–]Richard_Parker 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He explicitly stated in the special "my problem is with white people." The commentary at question was pretty lenient towards transgenders as well.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

White conservatives have already reached levels of patheticism previously not thought possible

[–]Rob3122 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Chappelle lost me as a fan when he made that ridiculous George Floyd special on the amount of time he was under the cops knee. Kept repeating how Flotd said "I can't breathe " but conveniently left out the fact that Saint Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" several times before he was pulled out of the cop car.

[–]Flicksener 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah same here. A very douchey "special." I especially hated how he kept telling his (mostly black) audience that he was "so proud of you guys." Proud of what, needlessly destroying several major cities and causing a spike in violence and murder nationwide? Pretty low bar for pride, there.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This is making me sick as well. Every single time a weird black entertainer says anything remotely appealing to them they salivate like the trained dogs they are. As another person points out in the show he makes it quite clear that the only people he hates are white people. Based!

I get really fucking annoyed as well that that fat piece of shit Sargon keeps popping up in my recommended vids on YouTube. He's doing something with a bunch of other worthless centrists called 'the lotus eaters' and they're basically doing a whole 'mining the salt from the woketards after based chappelle fights against trans'.

Edit: Actually probably the only interesting bits in the whole set were his jokes about Jews which drew some pretty harsh feedback from them and accusations of anti-Semitism. For some strange reason I can't quite put my finger on conservatives haven't focused on that part of the set and aren't lambasting Jews for their role in 'cancel culture'. Weird.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

When is Applebee's going to call him back to work?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He lost that gig. Applebee's were concerned that he made them seem tacky.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No doubt. Haven't heard much from that guy since he used to call into the Killstream to propose ways to own the libs to the gunt.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

"Much of his criticize of gays and trans is that they are getting more support than oppressed blacks which is a lie."

Not sure this is a lie. Now we have him, a black man, getting criticized by a white man. Racist right? But MSM is supporting the white man due to him being a tranny. So the one time you can criticize a black man nowadays if it is from the perspective of being pro tranny.

I forgot you can also criticize the black man and call him an idiot if he is anti vaccine.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

This doesn't disprove my point. The fact that blacks are the most prioritized minority doesn't mean they can be "transphobic", though it is more tolerated for them to be misogynistic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc than whites.

Netflix would never allow someone, even a trans, to do a special mocking BLM and the black oppression narrative, and if they did it would be far more controversial than this Chappelle special where only the most devout of the woke community care.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true, netflix wouldn't allow mocking of BLM, good point. So they did allow Dave Chappelle to briefly mock trans, it was a small part of his standup act really yet it is all the MSM talks about. I was looking more at the perspective of how the entire MSM and woke folks are acting and not just what netflix did.

[–]proc0 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What's happening is that the Right gets ultra-censored, and there is almost no platform for any even remotely conservative entertainer, film-maker, or what have you. So when someone on the Left who has a platform somehow sneaks in a few minutes of a much needed pushback against Clown World, people are responding positively because they're starved of any cultural victories.

What is the solution? We probably need a conservative YouTube, that is just as big, and an alternative Twitter, that is just as big, at least. This will allow some content from the Right to make it to the NPC sheep, and then I think people like Chapelle will be ignored even if they say a couple funny lines pushing against the woke. Indeed, I think we would have full standup shows destroying trans agenda... there is so much material for comedians right now, if the platforms didn't censor as much.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Also often times a comedian has a greater effect on the cultural zeitgeist than a politician or a phlisopher. He can get away with saying things because it's just a joke. I feel like the ultimate punchline he made with his joke was saying that being a tranny is like a white person wearing blackface paint, I laughed at that but it also made me see a perspective on why black people don't like black paint, it's a caricture of them. If it wasn't funny it wouldn't have spread so much thru the media.

I go to comedy clubs some times, small time up and coming comedians, unlike in corporate media they can and do tell non PC jokes including making fun of both trannies and black people. Some of it is funny and some isn't though.

Even back hundreds of years ago the jester had an important place in the court.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

he made with his joke was saying that being a tranny is like a white person wearing blackface paint

Yeah with that joke either I missed something or that wasn't a fair comparison. One is pretend and the other is not. Trans movement is literally upset at people who won't go along with their fabricate reality. Blackface is either a joke or just pretend, which could be mean or not like everything else, however it was all blown up for political purposes, I guess, since clearly it was fine less than a couple decades ago. Now everything has been re-racialized and I guess Chapelle is ok with that, even though comedians should lead the way in not being so PC and easily offended. So what if it's a caricature? Banning it only guarantees its survival into the future. Once people do blackface again it will be a thing, whereas before it was almost forgotten.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's like, most of us a regular straight man, or straight woman. We see a tranny and get offended, why? Because it's in our face and disgusting, we wouldn't care if it was just done behind closed doors like if a guy dressed up like a woman in the privacy of his own home, who would care, it's weird but it'd be just his personal business. But it's up in our face and annoying. If it was just a joke or pretend, how is that so, how is it funny, it's just annoying and offensive, no joke there, no punchline. Sometimes in the past you'd have a comedy movie and a man is dressed up like a woman, haha I guess, I don't laugh though, I must not be the audience that is kind of joke is meant for! But I'm not going to try to censor or outlaw comedy where a guy dresses up like a woman, but I do kind of feel like any actor or comedian that does that is a hack and I'd hope the capitalist marketplace of ideas does not support that guy, that is not censorship it'd just be an unfunny comedian not getting work.

With black face I can see the similarities. In all honesty I never understood why that was a thing, is it funny, why did people back in the 1920s think it was so funny and cool to see a white minstrel in black face telling jokes or singing. I can see why a black man might be offended by it because I'm offended by a tranny pretending to be a woman.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We see a tranny and get offended

I personally don't. They can do whatever, it's irrelevant... but that's what they hate. They don't want to be irrelevant, they want to be the center of attention, and they want to make sure your thoughts align with their thoughts, so you can't think they're not the gender they say. (and to be fair, there is something to be considered there, but it has more to do with psychology than politics as it is now).

The problem is impossing it on the culture at large, and doing so through people's goodwill to not offend anyone. There is no parallel to blackface that I can see. One is kind of political movement changing the world, and the other is just dressing up as someone else. I guess blackface could be compared to drag... but even that is a stretch. Blackface is simply a costume.

I never understood why that was a thing, is it funny

Same here, I never saw it as funny at all. Is it funny to dress up as a skeleton or a werewolf for halloween? It's just a costume, nobody actually thinks you are that. We can see even the PM of Canada did a blackface (but it was just a costume), because it was really not a big deal until people made it a big deal (and even then they selectively apply the consequences, which proves to me it is political to some extent).

If I'm charitable here, I think it's possible that it has to do with the history of black people, and how it's lighter skin people were the oppressors and are now mocking the oppressed. But this goes into all the politics of it, and how it has been revived (again, this was fine a couple decades ago), but the main point here is that there isn't much of parallel between a costume and a whole ideology that changes the definition of gender.

I'm offended by a tranny pretending to be a woman.

So yeah, I think the offense might come from them actually trying to be a woman, not just the dressing up part.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If a man is dressing up as a woman, wearing a dress, why is he doing that. As a halloween costume? Just for joking around? It's not funny. Just wrong. We have an innate gag reflex when we see it, we know it's wrong, just some things are insticntual, it can't be explained any further than saying it's wrong. Do we need big govt to come in and outlaw it? No, but we as a society can and should ostracize them. That is cancelling, the problem with cancel culture is it cancels the wrong things right now. It should cancel trannies but not strong men who state facts, just common sense. Why do some conservative people that wore black face get cancelled but not Trudeau the guy in chrge of Canada? He should be cancelled for being an idiot, what he wore to a halloween party years ago isn't as important but it does help to show he is a hypocrite that doesn't care about black people so it is just one thing he should be criticized for.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a man is dressing up as a woman, wearing a dress, why is he doing that. As a halloween costume? Just for joking around

Ok I guess this is where we disagree. I don't think the dress up part is wrong necessarily... it's the fact that they're being serious about it AND demanding everyone else take them just as seriously.

If you're offended by just the dress up part, then I can see how you feel blackface is also offensive. I wouldn't care for either, it's just that only one of those demands I partake in the false reality (psychology aside), while the other is just parody (sometimes it's actually offensive, but that says something about the person doing it, not the act of dressing up as some other race).

And yes, if the outrage was more consistent that would at least prove is not also a political weapon.

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    sometimes people say if USA is so bad, black people should move to africa. Well Dave Chappelle did that back in 2005 when he had a break down Dave did that, he went to South Africa. That didn't last long though and now he lives in a small town in Ohio.

    [–]Flicksener 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    He's funny at times and I agree with some of his points, but he's definitely a race baiter. He's also arrogant and thinks way too highly of himself (he's good, but certainly not as great as he seems to think he is), and his logic is not always sound.

    He had a video about a year or two ago that went slightly viral where he explained why he wanted the rights to Chappelle's Show back, and it was an incredibly whiny, self-pitying, self-serving justification for what essentially amounted to his reneging on a fair contract he made with Comedy Central back in the early 2000s, forcing the network's hand by painting them publicly as being in the wrong for giving him, a then no-name up and coming comedian, the opportunity of a lifetime. They gave in, of course, as far as I know.

    But CC did nothing wrong; they offered him a deal for the rights to the show, he took it, they paid him. That's how it works. After the show became a huge hit, they offered him another deal, paid him almost 50 million dollars, and he took it. When he didn't deliver (he had a breakdown or whatever during season 3), instead of suing his ass or forcing his hand, they graciously offered to cancel the deal if he returned the money, which I believe he did. They weren't even pricks about it, as far as I know. Didn't shame him in the media or anything. Very, very generous of them.

    He would be nothing without Comedy Central. He sold the rights to his show to them in exchange for vast fame and fortune. Them's the breaks, and as far as breaks go, them's pretty good.

    The story he told during that special to serve as a comparison to this "ordeal" also didn't fit; he told of a time he was conned out of money by street hustlers and was almost beat up for it after he spoke up, being warned to "never get between a man and how he makes his living." This is supposed to be some great moral lesson for us, the audience, to take in, but considering that what these men were doing was stealing, and they had just stolen from him, his speaking up against them wasn't "wrong," it was right, it's the thieves that were wrong, regardless of what they were doing to make their living. He presented it as though he was the thieves in this metaphorical scenario and Comedy Central the ones trying to get in between him and how he makes his living.

    It's not the greatest of metaphors, comparing yourself with thieves in order to try to make the point that you were the one stolen from, and doesn't work. Wonky logic. Maybe he knew this and was hoping no one would notice.

    [–]ThirteenEqualsFiftyLegionnaire 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    "Meh, white folks ain't that racist."

    "All hail the great based one!"

    [–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    FWIW, civnats idolizing Chapelle isn't new.

    But also, all types who listen to mainstream comedians are slightly off somehow. Maybe it's smugness they've absorbed, or just chucklefuckery. They are off-putting. Don't take stand-up fans any more seriously than heavy metal music fans.

    [–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It’s not enough that they can simply not watch him. They want everyone else to not watch him.

    It’s like they want to be everyone’s Big Brother.