CIA spooks say US on the verge of civil war, the military and civil services are filled with ''extremists''

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from self.debatealtright

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/us-closer-to-civil-war-new-book-barbara-walter-trump-capitol-attack

They are prepping the ground for an all-out purge of the military and intelligence services. I get the feeling they're preparing for a mass crackdown in the next few years. Already they've extended anti-terrorism laws to the point where a grandma wanting to see the school curricula is a violent extremist on par with Al Qaeda.

https://occidentaldissent.com/2021/12/21/retired-democratic-generals-warn-about-2024-insurrection/

Retired generals and leftists are now talking about civil war and insurrection.

These concerns are obviously all bogus and trumped up. But the trajectory they're taking is worrying.

Things are accelerating fast and the acceleration is coming from the elites. They're laying the foundations for actual concentration camps and death squads. Just look at how cool they are with Ashley Babbit's murder.

Things are getting hairy fast. I don't know if this is an intentional op to bring about a more Soviet-style regime or if the elites are actually paranoid. Their agenda is extremely unpopular and the people are more restless than ever in light of mass inflation and crime.

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Could there be a civil war? Absolutely. But have the conditions actually been met for it? Not yet or no.

Republicans & Democrats are not rival gangs like North Side vs Chicago Outfits, or Yamaguchi-gumi vs Ichiwa-kai. In fact, they collaborate all the time and pass bipartisan bills together (How else does Israel get money every year without the support of BOTH groups?).

An actual civil war would only make sense when we begin to see separatist factions take form, and rally behind a leader who supports them. The events of January 2021 was just a half baked mob who walked into a government building and then quickly left when asked to. That's baby stuff.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't quite buy the whole Repubs/Dems are the same thing; the left strongly equals the GOP to Hitler (far more than "Dems are the real racists") while they believe the DNC is ineffectual.

Otherwise I am conflicted what the alt-right stance on the Capitol was, whether it was a fed plot or anything else.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They're not genuine.

If GOP was Hitler, why didn't any Democrats threaten secession or leave the country when Trump was in power? And vice versa is true with Obama and the Republicans.

And don't forget state's switch political parties all the time. Look at Florida's voting record.

Otherwise I am conflicted what the alt-right stance on the Capitol was, whether it was a fed plot or anything else.

Journalists were already inside, taking pictures of the event. That should tell you everything it was just a normal day instead of a "oh mah gawd, civil war is about to happen" like the media fantasizes.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So about this. I wish to bring up the Babbitt situation and how it could have possibly lead to the worst chaos of all?

Meanwhile as to arguments for Republicans being aligned with WNs, one example I wish to bring up is the whole Trump ordeal about "very fine people" at Unite the Right. The messages of him condemning the rally exist but he struggled to name the groups involved (walking out of an August 12 press conference, and only begrudgingly releasing condemnations that still did not name them in the days after; once even party mates decried his initial actions). He also made errors in that the rally was overwhelmingly WN themed and as such, the "fine people" aka peaceful protesters wanting to defend the Lee statue were insignificant. https://www.bitchute.com/video/TFMn0jQOcPh6/

There's also the comments that "every racist voted for Trump", "they still love Donald, he's just not racist enough for them!", the Proud Boys having a "Proud Goys" fork and 1/6 had the Camp Auschwitz guy.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why would Trump allow Confederate statues to be removed at all if he was White Nationalist/Alt-Right? Or why even allow the 2020 election to go ahead instead of just declaring the Republican Party as the only legal authority?

It's just pure hysteria and ignorance to think any mainstream Conservative Party is even remotely close to National Socialism.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, but what do you have to say about the other points?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

  1. I can't speak too much about Ashli Babbitt. Considering that only one side had guns and the other side had just trespassed, there wasn't going to be a civil war.

  2. A racist can vote for anyone. That's literally their right. Just like a Communist will still vote for a Democrat or anyone left-leaning. It doesn't mean much unless these people actually run for office or have power.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right, but since Trump is a mixed bag to these people, it might be just a left-wing strawman (speaking on actual statistics that have happened).

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are creating the conditions for civil war.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They think they can control the outcome.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Worked last time

[–]shilldetector 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Things are accelerating fast and the acceleration is coming from the elites. They're laying the foundations for actual concentration camps and death squads.

Concentration camps, death squads? Really? You need to take some deep breaths and just relax with this civil war shit.

This is Jewish elites doing what they have done in recent years. Double down and escalate. Push the overton window as far as they can, then push it further. They havent stopped doing this, and they wont stop doing it.

Just point out what theyre doing. Name them. Fuck this silly vague watered down "the elites" bullshit. It's a powerful segment of Jews pushing this shit, same as weve seen all along. Sure some opportunistic or cowardly whites are going along with it while lying to themselves about whats happening, but its important to be clear who is driving this.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Concentration camps, death squads? Really?

Yes, really. Take a look at the isolation camps in Australia. Anyone who refuses the vaccine gets thrown into one of those camps. They are not voluntary, and they are not pleasant. We are not far away from death camps at this point.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Concentration camps and death squads are not some outlandish fantasy. The spiritual and in many cases biological ancestors of the modern US left, the bolsheviks created those in large numbers. The CIA already operates many concentration camps like Guantamo bay and torture is widespread. Death squads are a stone throw away when the DOHS can designate practically any white conservative as a terrorist. And what does the US do with terrorists?

Google Osama bin Laden.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Things are accelerating fast and the acceleration is coming from the elites.

Good.

They're laying the foundations for actual concentration camps and death squads

Double good.

Their agenda is extremely unpopular

They've lost the narrative. That's why they are accelerating into institutional violence towards the people. The minute they go too far and get actual push back they are going to use that push back as propaganda. Once that happens there's no turning back (because the people will see through the spin). I hope you've made the right decisions DAR. You've had plenty of warnings.

and the people are more restless than ever in light of mass inflation and crime.

That's a good sign. I'll take a riled up populace over a lackadaisical, comatose one any day of the week. Especially when the default is falling white birth rates and increasing rates of non white immigration. The sooner this thing destabilizes the better. I think before total collapse they are going to try a proxy war in eastern Europe or Asia. If that fails it's full on demolition.

If I were an 'elite' (I hate calling them that) I'd be very worried that the demolition might not be in the direction they want it to fall.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

this kind of view gives you the excuse to do nothing, you just tell yourself bad things happening is a good thing

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bad things happening are NOT a good thing. The status quo is not a good thing either.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agreed tho that is different from what you said

[–]Tarrock 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just remember what the great Terry A David said about CIA spooks.

[–]88BitSorelianism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

the military... is filled with ''extremists''

It is, at least the ones who actually face combat as their job, not to mention all the retired military that is watching this all happen.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just saw this.

https://twitter.com/robkhenderson/status/1474100093590532101?t=Wpk_tR4P6zloy5x48QjiFQ&s=19

Division in the elite creates revolutions, not necessarily divisions in the general population.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't see any of the tweets, the account owner limits it.

[–]TiwakingTranshumanist Eugenecist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

An American civil war? I'd sign up for that! I'll go fight for Texas.

[–]Nullisect 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just like their social services, academia and legal system are filled with "extremists"

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not to mention the whole Florida klan plot that is being spinned as a true infiltration of law enforcement.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

CIA spooks say US on the verge of civil war

The spooks said that?

What does the CIA IT dept have to say? Or CIA HR?

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the CIA is saying it, they are probably setting it up.