Could black nationalists/separatists end up doing a lot of the work for us?

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For example, Umar Johnson has nearly 75 subscribers on Youtube (and I've noticed he's rising a steady rate): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIj8buUZCdFFpJbe52ajD8w

With blacks being only 13% of the population, that's actually a pretty big number. Others like Tariq Nasheed have kind of carefully alluded to black separatism. Curiously, this isn't mentioned on his wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Nasheed

In any case, I'm just wondering how useful guys like this could be to our goals. Instead of fighting the same tired battles about discrimination, it's refreshing to hear blacks that, while still hostile to us, understand the incompatibility between black and white societies.

The left is always asserting how helplessly racist whites are, but they must stop short of saying the situation is hopeless. Black nationalists call them on their bluff, in a sense, and just loudly assert that living with whites is simply a lost cause.

Will black nationalist types be a significant force in the near future, or just get lost in the mix?

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You might be completely right about this.

    The only distinction I would make is: Maybe the rhetoric of black nationalists will help establish the incompatibility between blacks and whites. In practice, they'll never actually leave voluntarily, but maybe their rhetoric will help reveal some necessary truths about black and white differences.

    [–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Black identity is parasitism incarnate.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I think pushing antisemitism among them is a good strategy, letting them see who pulls the strings on a higher level. There are some nogs in my city that talk about the holocaust being fake, they have posterboards and everything.

    Isn't Tariq Nasheed that faggot that explores his fetish for white men through fake history? The buck breaking shit was hilarious

    [–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Blacks that have regular dealings with easily identifiable orthodox Jews invariably hate them. The thing is that most Jews are largely indistuingishable from whites. If most whites cant tell the difference, do you honestly think blacks will?

    If Jews were blue their power would evaporate almost overnight. Their camoflauge is one of the keys to their destructiveness as it enables their monopolizations and rampant ethnic nepotism to go largely unnoticed, enables them to blame their bad behavior on others, and enables them to work against the interests of a group they pretend to belong to.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Good point, blending in really is their greatest strength. A lot of blacks in Africa are very jwoke because of Islam and solidarity against Israel and that may end up spreading.

    [–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The left is always asserting how helplessly racist whites are, but they must stop short of saying the situation is hopeless.

    I have seen some of them who do say it is hopeless, it just so happens that their solution is way more extreme than anything black separatists would propose.

    Anyway, personally I am sceptical about the potential of black separatism. I think black separatism could only become a political force if either they themselves or white nationalists end up in control of the government. Otherwise, all the popular energy that black separatists attempt to tap into will continue to flow towards black nationalism lite, BLM type of stuff.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No, they're just not serious about it. When push comes to shove they won't leave.

    [–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No. Black nationalism is a joke.

    Tariq Nasheed

    I don't see how anyone can follow that retard, even for the laughs.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    His buck breaking shit is pretty funny

    [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Suppose their movement wasn't already full of agents, how would the rest of Americans react if they asked for their separate state? As far as I know, it's whites who are most adamant that this is totally out of the question.