If voting was effective...

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[–]MostlySunnySkies 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Crowder is awesome even when I dont' agree.

Vote-by-mail is a democratic scam to permanently steal elections.

Voter fraud should logically be a capital offense.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Over 40 Ways Voting Is A Rigged Joke

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Voting is a rigged joke

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In an ideal democracy, voting would be effective as citizens vote directly on policy after having considered the factual basis and ethical ramifications of the issues without fraud. And every vote being considered on its merit towards wholesome application. In a realistic or limited democracy, voting is based on representation, which ends up voting on policy for its population, thereby considering its majority over minority at times. In a dystopian democracy, voting is controlled through propaganda and emotional marketing techniques with pre-selected candidates via media campaigns.

Modern democracies tend to be a mixture of the three hoping to move or settle towards the ideal stage but often fall short due to various forces converging to an imbalance over power accumulation/competition over agenda. Also logistics.

One thing people probably should not vote on is military operations, or votes to "undermine" military developments since it is crucial towards security and protection. But a rogue military can also undermine the democratic process and a deep exploit existing in this regard. Overall, democracy and voting are sacred institutions that people fought and sacrificed for and they ought to be respected as long as the institutions also innovate newer methodologies to fight against the excesses of corruption, criminal and fraud. Totally awesome stuff worthy of history- if it can be further maintained.

So finally, yes- voting is effective. That is why it could be undermined or made illegal.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed. Voting for corruptible puppets is stupid. Voting on policy is superior.

I don't support anything about any military in any way. Fuck their "authority" to murder, justified by nothing. The people who "sacrifice" are coerced, dogmatic, blood-thirsty, power-hungry, and/or are idiots.

When voting is effective they change the rules. It's never effective.

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The people who "sacrifice" are coerced, dogmatic, blood-thirsty, power-hungry, and/or are idiots.

That is an interesting point, it really speaks more to the dystopian aspect of things but I think there may also be a resurgence of democratic principles being applied technologically in the future since dems tend to value input as an idealistic notion and people WILL fight for their freedoms to not get trampled on- so it ends up being decently progressive. An outright monarchy or dictatorship would make for a poor futuristic regime, since the myopia tends to war and factionalism over centralized power accumulation. The only thing that needs to catch up to speed are the citizens in this brain race for better computation to get somewhere further decentralized.

Unless of course, humans go extinct. In which case the central component of democracy goes poof and no doubt some rogue forces would want that to be a reality as well.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

" I think there may also be a resurgence of democratic principles being applied technologically in the future since dems tend to value input as an idealistic notion and people WILL fight for their freedoms to not get trampled on- so it ends up being decently progressive. "

This might be nice, but IMO it's extremely wishful thinking. Currently there is virtually nothing about ethical or moral standards for technology, science, medicine, etc and to assume that someone sometime will somehow make something up before it's a massive problem is irrational. They've repealed the Smith-Mundt Act in 2013 so now anything goes regarding propaganda and psyops. With propaganda and deception allowed full throttle we can see the dogma of blind faith in science exploding.

Scientism is among the greatest threats to humanity.

Blind faith that scientists, experts, and medical authorities know what's good for us with their proprietary private "science" and technology for profit will soon kill countless seeking solutions and only finding inferior products and treatments, suffering, and death. This is already happening NOW with ventilators and will certainly happen with vaccines soon.

Meanwhile the masses are under the spell of corporate media.

Until they are able to think for themselves, there really is no hope and the ruling class will only keep around as many as are necessary to serve them.