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[–]tvk30nctqf 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Totally look like native swedes /s

Hows that cultural enrichment working again.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Totally look like native swedes /s

Totally looks fake AF.

This is supposed to be the grave these kids were forced to dig, and were also buried in?

We're expected to believe they brought shovels and knives to abuse and torture these kids over night, so they could then dig a 'grave' hole into the side of a hill?

The hole doesn't look like a fresh dig.
Where's the huge pile of fill dirt that was in the hole?

Where's the fresh dirt on the hole that they were buried under?

It reminds me of another hole that an airplane supposedly crashed into.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

We're expected to believe they brought shovels and knives to abuse and torture these kids over night, so they could then dig a 'grave' hole into the side of a hill?

I am always amazed at your inability to understand how brutal islamics are. Have you not watched any of their snuff videos? The one where they rape and behead those two tourists, as they cry for their mummies is required watching, just to see the utter hatred in their faces and realise that your children are their target

The only thing I find hard to believe is that the kids survived

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am always amazed at your inability to understand how brutal islamics are.

It seems you are trying to avoid the evidence by making this conversation into an appeal to emotion.

Hopefully, your views on Islam haven't distorted your ability to understand the physical reality of the natural world.

Can we agree that a significant volume of dirt had to be removed from the ground to create the hole for the alleged graves, right?

Where is the fill dirt?

Wouldn't you agree that the lack of physical evidence for a recently excavated soil undermines the credibility of this story.

Bro? Are you familiar with the concept of fake news?

;-)

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

yes, Tom, I understand fake news. I've also dug a lot of holes, and there is nothing that makes that hole look very old. The lack of dirt is unremarkable with the knowledge that it was the site of a forensic examination, and when you dig in heavy clay soil like that it very very quickly assumes a flat and undisturbed appearance. Just outside, I have a pile of clay that I dug out of a large hole to make foundations for a dog shelter, and it looked just like that picture immediately after I excavated it, although I had a much neater hole because I wasn't scared shitless when I dug it.

Your default position is "its all fake". Which is tedious as fuck, by the way.

So whatever you look at, you look for 'proof' of your default position, then run around bleating it once your bias is confirmed.

My default position is "I don't trust what they say", so I look at the gestalt of events for a sense of truth, or a sense of lie. This binary sense is something i've spent years on, and i'm not a human lie detector, my autism tunes to such an extent that I'm pretty smug about it.

In this particular case, the story seems true, although I believe the boys went there for sex, and they are hiding that aspect of the tale.

But they picked the wrong swarthy fuckbois and ended up being degraded and punished by closet homo islamic psychopaths instead.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your default position is "its all fake". Which is tedious as fuck, by the way.

The swedish Muslims are evil trope is tedious as fuck.
Where are the norwegian reports?
Or Finnish reports?

The Muslim boogeyman in Sweden is the popular media PsyOp.

There are similar examples in recent swedish history.

Are you familiar with the state run grenade terror operation in Sweden?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

The hand grenades found by the police are exclusively the ex-Yugoslavian M75 hand grenade.[21]

A former communist country's grenades from the 90's (at best)???

The ideal Gladio style terror device.

No one is injured in +90% of them, but they seemingly disappeared in 2020?

Naturally, there were some swedes who claimed that middle eastern migrants would have easy access to 90's era communist hand grenades.
No evidence was provided to substantiate this, but that's the nature of propaganda.

Far-right political activists spreading anti-immigrant sentiments have attributed the rise in grenade attacks and crime with the migrant crisis, a claim that has been disputed.[11][12][13] Paulina Neuding of The Spectator wrote that Swedish officials have failed to effectively address the problem: "it’s still hard for Swedish authorities to be frank about what’s going on. It’s widely known that gang members are mainly first- and second-generation immigrants."

False flag AF.

My guess is they ran out of Yugoslavian grenades, so that was no longer an option.

They weren't interested in using NATO grenades because it's self incriminating.

Using Russian grenades wasn't an option like it would have been during the cold war, because the Russians would investigate, and probably prove it was the swedish police all along.

They're probably fresh out of untraceable grenades...

So now they're blaming nameless menacing Muslims, armed with knives, and shovels, who are hiding in parks, with digitized faces.

So, yeah. That's a stupid story, and I think it's nonsense.

So whatever you look at, you look for 'proof' of your default position

Shouldn't this be the critical thinker default position? Looking for actual evidence, instead of a prepackaged narrative.

then run around bleating it once your bias is confirmed.

Bias towards evidence.

It would be great if others would join in.

Additional critical thinking should always be welcome. IMHO.

Am I mistaken?

I'm not singling you out, because i think you're stupid.

I'm singling you out because you aren't stupid, and I highly doubt you would be fooled by most of this if you too the time to carefully evening the evidence.

The lack of dirt is unremarkable with the knowledge that it was the site of a forensic examination, and when you dig in heavy clay soil like that it very very quickly assumes a flat and undisturbed appearance.

Really?

Do you have any photos of an undisturbed blend pile of heavy clay?

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The swedish Muslims are evil trope is tedious as fuck.

No one is expressing that trope here. The guys charged were well known for being utter cunts.

The Muslim boogeyman in Sweden is the popular media PsyOp.

No, it isn't. It took years before the actual situation in Sweden leaked out, and the mainstream press has only started mentioning it in the last couple of years. The real situation is well documented by alternative media, and it is bad. But keep defending the muslims, I see you have a hard on for sharia.

False flag AF.

Everytime a islamic cunt is a cunt, its the zionists, I get it, you are a fucking muzzie lover.

So, yeah. That's a stupid story,

the idea that muslims obey the teachings of their crazy faith is so outlandish that you'll construct a full blown insane conspiracy rather than acknowledge the truth, that islam is a violent, rapist, murderous, lying cult that has, for 1600 years, been following EXACTLY THE SAME PATTERN of invasion, murder, rape and mayhem. Yes, there are some 'nice' muslims. But the holy books are clear. they are 'bad muslims'.

So whatever you look at, you look for 'proof' of your default position

Shouldn't this be the critical thinker default position?

NO. it is called 'confirmation bias'. You look for evidence to support your fantasy, and so ignore anything that doesn't fit it, grasping at any evidence to support your beliefs. You are no different to /u/jesus with his 'zionists are under my bed' fantasy.

Do you have any photos of an undisturbed blend pile of heavy clay?

I have no way to share photos anonymously, but the photo in the article is pretty much spot on. But, why don't you go and dig a hole yourself, learn how it works. You are the one that made a claim about the hole / dirt, but you have no experience of what such a hole looks like, you are fantasising/ making baseless claims. Go educate yourself.

But since I know you won't, here's a video. watch what happens to the soil under his feet. Absolutely matches the article, and you can see where they were on their knees, the compaction from that, and the line of little grains spreading backwards from where they were throwing the excavated soil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9FuFIY-OKA

also, watch the way the damp clay squishes here: https://youtu.be/ORq_bzx8cY8?t=428

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Alciaduh was created by who? Sure, Jihadists can be terrible. Being Muslim or Jewish is anti-Christ but at least muslims venerate Christ whereas Jews despise it.

The open borders policy is a Zionist goal after all.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He understands.

He must doesn't want you to understand.

Nothing to see hear, it's all fake, it didn't happen, the victims are making it up, they asked for it

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The picture of the hole isn't wide enough to see if there is dirt or not.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is it a large enough hole for a two person grave?

Assuming the hole is larger than the two people to so they could for into the hole.

Shouldn't there be at least 400 lbs of displaced soil for a two person grave?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It seems large enough for two small children. And how neat do you expect their digging themselves out with their hands, from the inside, to be?

Not saying this story is 100% factual, but you really have to look at both angles with equal seriousness instead of pouring bias into the "analysis".

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Which is more plausible:

A) It's a completely fake story with no names or faces, and a fake crime scene that they tossed some clothes and leaves into.

Or...

B) This escape story...

The next morning, after fearing they would eventually be killed, the boys decided they had to try to escape.

They seized their opportunity to get away when the two men strolled away into the distance.

Imagine you're the police officer documenting this?

Some kids claimed the rapists decided to stroll away into the distance; after a night of torture, rape, and grave digging.

You'd laugh in their faces.

You think this is a more credible story than the possibility that they made this story up, and didn't included faces of names so they didn't get sued?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't, but it doesn't matter what I believe or don't believe. Both sides of the story are POSSIBLE. And either one version happened, or another. It isn't like "likelihood" has anything to do with WHAT ALREADY HAPPENED.

[–]beethy 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Jesus fucking christ this has to stop already. The entirely of Europe needs to employ a much more strict immigration law.

Enough of these refugees who are often economical opportunists.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's done on purpose to destroy the homogeneity of European cultures, and use the chaos that ensues to implement a new order with some specific people at the top, and such disarray of the population in general so as to be unable to resist.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/y0N8XqBYNa9I/

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nothing so complex needed.

Tony Blair literally said that he wanted more immigration because he thought they would all be grateful and vote for him. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/648008/Tony-Blair-Labour-immigration-asylum-seekers-UK-Brexit-EU-referendum

And to piss of the Tory voters. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249797/Labour-threw-open-doors-mass-migration-secret-plot-make-multicultural-UK.html

So pure party politics and power grabbing.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A very simplistic "explanation". WHY did Tony Blair say that? Oh wait, you think politicians are stupid and don't know what they're doing.

NEWS FLASH: they know perfectly well what they are doing. All the time. They have power and nearly unlimited resources. Don't you think they have focus groups to study probable population reactions to ANYTHING? OF COURSE THEY DO.

No, it's all organized from the top, and by "top" I don't mean "elected" politicians. I mean their boss' boss.

[–]GConly 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

often

Usually.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Always

[–]PencilPusher55 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

No names or clear images of the suspects. Interesting.

[–]Fitter_Happier 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't want to cause racism.

[–]Canbot[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They blurred out their faces so that you wont recognize them, ruining their chance to rape you.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

No names or clear images of the suspects. Interesting.

+3 for the critical thinking comment.

Respect.

[–]PencilPusher55 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Really? Isn't that obvious? No offense intended, of course. I just mean that anytime they omit names / race, you know the demographic.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, also some European countries have strict laws about revealing suspect's identities before conviction.

But it really does mean these guys are basically free to attack until they get put in prison, which with sexual attacks is usually a long time.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Really? Isn't that obvious?

Your comment is upvoted, so others certainly agree.

[–]PencilPusher55 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like I said, no offense intended.

[–]Canbot[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Criminals this brazen have definitely done this before and not been caught. Who knows how many victims these two have.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Criminals this brazen have definitely done this before and not been caught.

Yep. Assuming you're referring to the police and the media hoaxsters.

The MSM will continue to publish these PsyOps as long as people continue to be fooled by them.

[–]Trajan 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Weird that Swedes, after so many years of declining rape, have so recently rediscovered a passion for this type of crime along with apparently enjoying tanning.

[–]RedditExPat69 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"The 2 suspects, aged 18 & 21, are being blurred out since they are muslims..."

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The cemetery, how romantic.

Who wants to bet they’re necrophiliacs too? I guarantee you they’ve fucked a dead body.

The boys were approached when they were walking by the cemetery too.. what 18 and 21 year old hangs out at cemeteries? How long you think the cemetery has been their chill-out spot?

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We had a gay serial killer in London who left his victims in the cemetery.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38045742

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Omg yes I remember that! Terrifying.

[–]Red23 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do you expect? This is what happens when you let anyone enter your country.

[–]adultmanhwa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sharia crimes? lol

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is why we need guns and the death penalty.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's why you need to kick out niggers and arabs. It isn't ethnic Swedes doing this shit.

[–]Marginotions 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

All we need is a few feet of rope.

[–]Marginotions 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

... and a tree, or lamppost, etc..

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good thing trees grow on trees.

[–]wrongthink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When cops arrived, they found the boys naked and covered with injuries.

Wow, the perps might get an entire 4 months confinement in a comfortable outdoor prison as a result of this. That will show them.