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[–]hfxB0oyA 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They're also going to charge him with genocide, being literally Hitler, and being a big poo-poo head, until something sticks and Biden can run unopposed.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

This is just a civil trial.

It doesn't affect his ability to run. All it does is demonstrate that he achieved his wealth by being fraudulent and sociopathic rather than being shrewd, good at business, or intelligent.

He is facing criminal charges too though. Espionage and Sedition related ones federally, RICO ones in Georgia.

[–]Although 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It doesn't even demonstrate that. All it demonstrates is the judge is capable of fraudulently undervaluing properties that Trump valued more generously.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As if we needed a judge to tell us what we already all knew about trump and his sick acolytes. Of course they defrauded banks and investors, that's what they do. They're a bunch of perverted asswipes. I HONESTLY believe they should also charge him with genocide, literally being Hitler, and being a big poo poo head also so Biden can run unopposed. Why anyone would be against that is beyond me - it's what I'm actually and literally hoping DOES HAPPEN!! And yes I'm being literal, not ironic.

[–]Kingdud 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Louis Rossmann has a 50+ video playlist where he walks around NYC measuring commercial real estate. 3x is kinda normal for NYC. No joke. Anywhere from 50-300% inflation of sqftage is normal there. "It's not lying, it's commercial real estate" is a mug he sells because of that experience. So...if they're going to go after anyone besides Trump (re: in addition to) then this is fine. If not, it's just a soviet show trial.

[–]Nairb 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Every property owner exaggerates their assets value. It sounds like the judge ignored the lenders and tax authorities responsibility to get their own appraisals from objective third parties.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every property owner exaggerates their assets value.

No I don't.

But even then inflating mar a lago 23 fold is a bit of a stretch even for creative accounting. And his Manhattan apartment got it's area increased 3 fold. The area isn't just accounting.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This judge has banned almost every possible defense, sanctioned his lawyers for making a defense, and now....the judge has made a summary judgement, based on nothing useful, with no real rebuttal, no expert witnesses, and deprived Trump of his right to be tried by a jury of his peers. Instead, the judge chose at a whim, then will have the jury simply choose the damages...

They've failed to define an actual victim or crime.... They haven't even checked with the bank the loan is from, reviewed the loan contract, aside from Trump's side with a legally enforceable disclaimer. The bank could have been just fine with the negotiation. It is not a crime to give poor quality data, if that is acceptable to the bank, whom knows good and well how to get or require an appraisal before entering a loan contract.

This prosecutor and judge are simply guessing at valuations and not even considering the difference in time-frame. They have totally botched most of their guess values, which is why they seem off.....

$12 million for Mar-o-lago.....when single plots in the area are worth > $100 million. I don't know if you've seen that place, but it likely has a valuation well over $1B. It is a whole resort, with many acres, and sits on a peninsula, with water on both sides

The only fraud I'm seeing is the court...

This reminds me of the journalism rights destroying Fox News case. The judge ruled they could make no defines, then summary ruled against most of the case, forcing them to simply settle. The judge in that case banned all defense arguments, declared a bunch of ridiculous things to be facts that can not be disputed or disproven in court, then summary ruled on most of the case, planning to have the jury simply choose the damages... Fox News should have went down with the ship, to help protect the country's dwindling Constitutional rights, freedom of speech, and journalistic protections. They pussied out and fuck the public over by doing so.

[–]wlh0242 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just another feather in the Communist Dem’s cap…

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