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[–]Theo_Fridall 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (25 children)

The whole "boomer' meme is Zionist* intergenerational 'divide-and-conquer', and young people are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.

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nah it is needed, boomers have been terrible for a while

jews are terrible too tho

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

lmao y'all niggas keep talking like that you're gonna give the very people you're talking about the ammunition they need. That's what happened to Voat. Plus it makes us seem closed-minded and not open to discussion. We can't educate people that way.

Zionist isn't an antisemitic term; it's one celebrated within their community. It's akin to being a Nazi, a member of ISIS. It's a radical form of a religious ideology and the elite and "shadow government" are self-proclaimed Zionists. Use their word, celebrities, the wealthy and politicians have spoken about it in public, believing in and acting it out against the world's will. It isn't antisemitic.

As for boomers, have you noticed their generation time-line keeps extending? It used to be those born before the 1960s, but now anyone above 30 is considered a "boomer". There's also negative connotations associated with the term "boomer" and /u/Theo_Fridall is right, they're using that as a divide and conquer tactic now. I'd say the whole generational thing is one - notice how much less time generations have before a new one is started.

Millennials should currently be anywhere from around 19-35 (it's in the name, 19 being born in the year 2000), but some are getting called boomers because they're above 30; a certain mindset also warrants you being called a boomer now. If you do a quick search on Millennials and Zoomers, you'll see reputable sites report their generational time-line, and they often overlap/are inaccurate. We already have Generation Alpha and Beta and Gamma are on the way. The boomers got nearly 20 years, and were seen as one generation. Generation X got maybe 15-10. Millennials got maybe 10. Zoomers got maybe 5-10. Generation Alpha has already entered the spotlight - if this is the generation birthed by Millennials, which generation gave birth to Zoomers since Millennialls proceeded Generation-X? Plus it's not like like Zoomers were making positive headlines in the media or anything - the media was pushing for them hard at first, and when they began showing the identical sense of humor, political ideals and views as Millennials, they were dumped by the media, because they basically are the same.

It's almost every 5-10 years now that there's a new generation even though we've grown up in similar ways and live a similar lifestyle; the boomers had between 1946-1964 - their lifestyles and childhoods were dramatically different than Generation X's, and Millennials' (who really dug into the internet as zoomers have). A Millennials' childhood and lifestyle isn't too different from that of a Zoomer, growing up on early technology, playing a lot of the same games, experiencing the growth of technology, especially if you're on that younger (19-20's) end of Millennial. I mean think about it; a Millennial was a baby and toddler for the majority of the 90's if they were born in the 90's, and developed throughout most of the 2000's/early 2010's; the games and technology that they grew up on in the 2000's, are what Zoomers also grew up on (Think GTA, or COD for example) and enjoyed (just more advanced versions of, like Minecraft and Fortnite for example, which some Millennials created without large studios of the past, at a younger age (some in their teens with certain games), as well as also played en masse upon release). Millennials play all the games and listen to all the music Zoomers do, as well as consume the same entertainment, and if you're on the younger side, have a similar fashion sense (towards our later 20's and 30's most people tend to adopt a more mature sense of fashion as they enter professional work places). But in general, there is no real generational divide as we see with authentic boomers/Millennials, vs Millennials/Zoomers.

We both grew up on an internet that didn't have censorship like this and (is) still continually developing. We both experienced failures of the system, saw them happen to others, and were able to access information that was as uncensored as could be. Both of our generations rely on and continue to innovate "internet memes" to get a message across, important, joke or cultural. And if you're not an NPC, question things and have lost trust in systems in place because of this. This whole "generational term thing" seems like another divide and conquer tactic. Just another way to instigate in-fighting among us by having another "group" to point fingers at (as if enough groups and finger-pointing hasn't developed in the last 19 years), and as world events accelerate, the generational-timelines appear to as well.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

lmao y'all niggas keep talking like that you're gonna give the very people you're talking the ammunition they need. That's what happened to Voat. Plus it makes us seem closed-minded and not open to discussion. We can't educate people that way.

I would argue that right-wing Zionist Jews are actually far less of an issue in this regard than secular Cosmopolitan Jews that have Zionist sympathies. It is the profound double standard applied to host nations versus the motherland that makes cosmopolitan Jews particularly distasteful. Neither faction should control our economy, media, or laws; but that ship has long since sailed - and plenty of ostensibly "innocent" people will get caught up in the crossfire of the eventual reckoning.

For the purposes of this comparison I would lay the policies of Stephen Miller, a right-wing Zionist / against those of George Soros, a cosmopolitan with Zionist sympathies.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I apologize in advance for the lengthy reply, but I enjoy these discussions as they're not allowed on the majority of the internet. If I'm understanding you correctly, I pretty much agree with you, but because of this statement (which I also agree with):

"but that ship has long since sailed - and plenty of ostensibly "innocent" people will get caught up in the crossfire of the eventual reckoning."

and the fact that information has to be as digestible, and as legitimate as possible, it's more of just getting to the info as quickly and concisely as possible - it has to be coming from a neutral, informative place (backed by concrete sources, time has been a friend in that way), rather than one of hate. That's partially why I see the term "Zionist" more fitting than "Jew". And like I mentioned before, not every Jew is an active, participating Zionist, working for the control of "goyim" and "recreating Heaven on Earth in order to reconnect with their Father" by claiming, returning and building an esoteric structure in Israel (if that's truly their goal, as they say). There are many humans who just happened to be born into a Jewish family, were raised that way, and don't care much for religion, aren't in positions of prestige and don't even know what the Kabbalah really is.

I mean I hate to pull this card, but I both have Jewish blood in my veins (on my mother's side) and have a few friends who are Jewish that I met through school (we just became friends, no one vetted each other's religious background first, we were lil kids) - I live in a city where there are multiple ethnicities crammed into one place and grew up with people of all backgrounds who hung out together. I have spoken to some of my friends who are Jewish about the Talmud and Zionism when politics came up, and only one got upset with me a for little while because he couldn't refute or explain what I (or the Talmud was saying, he actually went to get his condensed Talmud book from his room because he believed the version I was showing him on the internet was "fake nazi shit", and got pissed when the same lines were in his book, and expounded on with detail). The others tried to explain the Talmud as the "Jewish" version of the "Old Testament", and most Jewish people who don't base their culture on their religion (essentially most Americanized Jews), don't take it seriously/to heart as it's outdated. For the most part, they agreed with me, and are your average group of kids - college/uni, girls, social media, fashion, music, friend groups/networking, working on being independent/expanding their circles, as well as part-time jobs and parties. No different than any another kid of another ethnicity at this age. And they aren't all that prestigious either. Not once has one of these friends discussed how the goyim need to be controlled or randomly mentioned Israel, and one aforementioned friend who's even a leftist, is against what Israel is doing to Palestine.

These terms (jew) have just become trigger words on the internet, through the media which they can use to divert from the information you're trying to share. Instead of using off-base descriptions (even though we understand what the other person means), we should get as close to an accurate, singular term as possible; they refer to themselves as Zionists, and discuss it on television, radio podcasts and events - *Biden's quotes at the end of comment, he's removed the videos due to his upcoming campaign - he was a little off the mark there with his date, I guess things didn't accelerate according to plan? - from celebrity, to politician; rather than "Jew" which they can throwback at you as being anti-semitic propaganda (like they did with The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion, despite everything in that book happening in current day and having been distributed en masse by people we consider important to American culture like Henry Ford and Walt Disney. Almost every sentence features the word "Jew", and it's discussing a radical religious group even if everything stated is factual on a political level (we understand what is meant by Jew, but to call every Jew a radical working towards a "one world order" is not only unfair, but inaccurate) - if there were books stating every white person was a Nazi upon birth, that'd be ridiculous and easily dismissible too (who knows in these times).

Why give them the opportunity or ammunition to discredit the important (or overload the information and make it hard to digest), factual information you're trying to spread? It defeats the whole purpose. We should be neutrally educating, allowing people to make up their own minds, instead of forcing information upon them. Instead of using terms or speaking in a way that could come off as "hate speech" due to PC culture.

I also wanna state, if you do a quick YouTube search, you'd be surprised at how many Jews, and even Israelis, are aware of Zionism and protest against it.

(And even if you wanna say this video is a Psyop, it's informing a bunch of randos in public about the term "Zionist" and how it relates to Jews)

*Quote from Biden Article

"By 2017, those of us of European stock," Biden said "will be an absolute minority in the United States of America."

That's "not a bad thing, that's a good thing," he added, because it means the U.S. is expanding the diversity of its people.

He has cheered the end of the white, European majority before. Last December, while in Morocco, he said:

"Ladies and gentlemen, in 2017, the United States for the first time, Caucasians of European descent like me will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America. The secret that people don't know is our diversity is the reason for our incredible strength."

So much tax-payer money has gone to Zionist means, when we could have been helping our own citizens and country. It never had to be this way.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not once has one of these friends discussed how the goyim need to be controlled or randomly mentioned Israel, and one aforementioned friend who's even a leftist, is against what Israel is doing to Palestine.

This is the curse of being intelligent. There is an elite cabal of ethnically Jewish interests, let's call them the Talmudic mafia. They control entertainment, finance, media, and have completely outsized control of the government; all achieved through extreme in-group preference and ethnic nepotism.

They actively work to undermine their host nations across the western world, while turning a blind eye to Israel's misdeeds and ensuring we fight it's wars for it. South Africa is what their victory looks like.

You and I are intelligent enough to know that this elite international clique has fuck all to do with the Jewish baker up the street (in fact, he is also fucked over by the same policies); however - most people are stupid. The average IQ of 90 has a hard time comprehending such a level of categorization; and when 90 is the average 50% are below that. We've been on a dysgenic path for around a century now. Stupidity is currently a better marker to measure biologically qualified success (offspring), than intelligence.

"White people are evil" only has traction due to this reality of human nature.

Since the intellectually mediocre cannot comprehend nuance - you eventually arrive at the end result of "Hitler did nothing wrong"; although a more accurate statement would be, "He did the best he could with what he had to work with (human nature)".

Reasoned debate will win you the hearts and minds of people interested in and capable of understanding the truth. Only well crafted propaganda will change enough hearts and minds to change the status quo.

Obligatory meme since you mentioned being part Jewish: https://files.catbox.moe/1ews5v.png

If I wanted to convince YOU mass immigration was bad I'd present facts and evidence.

If I wanted to convince the guy who fucked up my order at the fast food joint I'd just link him this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SST1pYtS10iv/

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You and I are intelligent enough to know that this elite international clique has fuck all to do with the Jewish baker up the street (in fact, he is also fucked over by the same policies)

They literally sacrifice their own if they see it as being in the "greater good of Zion", or if they're not important enough and are considered a gentile. Many Zionists have spoken about this, and it's also in the Protocols.

Since the intellectually mediocre cannot comprehend nuance - you eventually arrive at the end result of "Hitler did nothing wrong"; although a more accurate statement would be, "He did the best he could with what he had to work with (human nature)".

I don't know if intelligence has anything to do with it; maybe nurture more than nature. I went down the rabbit hole after witnessing 9/11 at 9 and I'm pretty deep now being in my 20's. That's why I understand and empathize with cognitive dissonance and feel it's important we choose the correct words when we discuss this.

Only well crafted propaganda will change enough hearts and minds to change the status quo.

This isn't very optimistic. But part of me agrees with this too. Could that be considered what Henry Ford's mass distribution of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion along with the timing of distribution were?

Overall, I agree with you but I don't know if intelligence factors into it as much - I was raised in a very open-minded household and began researching this shit in 4th grade after witnessing 9/11. That turned my world upside down, being innocent, gullible and curious. I had complete trust and faith in our government, and saw them as our protectors until that month. This lead to many conversations with my father at a young age, such as ones about JFK and the Kennedys. I got introduced to a lot of concepts and what I call possibilities, at a young age that others didn't because of nurture, my environment and family. And they aren't kooks - they didn't push any of this information on me, I sought it out, and they wear their masks well.

For the most part, US Citizens haven't even considered this because they were groomed not to. I get that. The system groomed me that way too; I remember my first assignment in 1st grade was about what we wanted to be when we grew up, and I did it by myself (one of the first times I did HW by myself lol) stating I wanted to be the president and was so proud of what I wrote. Now I'd rather die, because I know what comes with that position, especially if you don't play by the rules.

Obligatory meme in response to your obligatory meme (hey, I'm only a quarter, it was good enough for the SS's eugenic's program!): https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1501492762145.jpg

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This isn't very optimistic. But part of me agrees with this too. Could that be considered what Henry Ford's mass distribution of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion along with the timing of distribution were?

Yep, it's why I can never embrace an "optics first" strategy and won't counter-signal even lowbrow "racists". Problems in this area aren't new; and they aren't going to be solved with politeness, voting, or reasoned debate. Certainly those things are important as well, but we're too far gone for them to be the answer.

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” ― Adolf Hitler

https://files.catbox.moe/nydtge.jpg

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That was the most eloquently worded "we can't fix a broken system via a broken system" I've ever heard, and I agree with you. Are you going to fix a government you acknowledge is corrupt by voting for someone the government vetted as a potential candidate to fix the corruption in the government? Makes no sense.

I guess I could even see the intelligence bit (as there are many "types" of intelligence), however I still feel grooming plays a strong role in this process. We enter the world, and we're taught from day one that it works one way, when for people who have power, it actually works another. It's more like brainwashing to me.

More people are realizing this though, which is why I don't think it's solely intelligence, and why they want to control the internet like they do. Obama referred to our internet as "The Wild West version of the Internet", I'm sure he truly gives a fuck about cyber bulling; the spread of information is more worrisome to them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

tldr

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

sry 💖

was trying to have discussions with people. hope the op was good enough for you at least!

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kek

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and may kek be with u 2.

Amen.

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🤡🐸🌎

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I agree, everything has been about divide and conquer for distraction purposes. I just feel it's important to be careful when using the term "Jew" in this context. Use Zionist instead (at least imo), as that is the term for a radical Jew, like a "nazi" is for a radical white person. The world isn't black and white, and obviously, ALL Jews aren't radicals.

I feel using Jew in this context leads to the "unbelievable Jewish conspiracy" people won't even look into (another divide and conquer tactic: "you're a racist - anti-semite- conspiracy theorist - not even gonna bother"), while using Zionist will let people research the term and history, as well as realize it's a radical form of/gateway from Judaism, and rich blood lines who happen to be Jews have been controlling things for a while. It's much easier on cognitive dissonance.

It's kinda like a toddler. You gotta add some sugar to their medicine or trick them before they take what's good for and will help them.

[–]Theo_Fridall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good points. Thanks.

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

everything i dont like is a conspiracy

Ok boomer.

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ok boomer

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Mocking your opponent is a childish thing. So what are you? A zoomer-boomer?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Mocking your opponent is a childish thing.

That's projection. Projection is childish. So is seeing people as "opponents". So what are you? A zoomer-boomer?

ok boomer.

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Accusing others of projection is projecting. So you are a projecting zoomer-boomer.

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Accusing others of projection for stating one is projecting, is projecting on top of projecting, which is double the projection. Also assuming a random stranger is an opponent could be attributed to paranoia. So you are a double projecting paranoid zoomer-boomer.

ok boomer.

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boomer

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ok boomer

😁

[–]Assfuck 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews aren't that smart, don' give them credit for random shit. 90% of jews can be beaten up like they are woman. Weakest group of people, you could break their arm by high fiving, no joke.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can we focus on Kissinger and Koch Brothers and Soros and Rothschilds instead of "boomers" which is like 100 million random people

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Word lmao, this thread was originally meant to be a semi-shit post about this bullshit article, and discussion took it down a different (and appreciated) avenue.

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Original Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/style/ok-boomer.html

I'm going to say "ok boomer" everywhere now lmao.

"That'll be 2.99"

"Ok boomer"

do memes influence reality, or does reality influence memes?

[–]Vigte 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Placebo and Nocebo effects, along with various studies suggest that minds influence reality - at least to some extent.

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those are spicy memes, i've never seen those before. they even went gnostic. thanks for sharing fren, saved. The TED talks reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOGhJEvXkEg

I recommend watching that whole/the original video. He basically informs everyone at Harvard there's an evil religious sex cult in control of our culture (he even calls them an "evil extremist group", using a religious "satanic" practice, and proves its' permanent, negative effects and brain damage using recent research studies and correlations to mental health and suicide rates. In the full video, he also discuses other practices of the "ancient extremist group".), and the hardcore, loyal believers are willing to do anything, even sexual rituals on their own children to prove their loyalty. In the full video, he tells you it's a custom in their religion to mark slaves and explains how it originated. He got fired from his job at Harvard for it even though he was promised "freedom of speech and thought" as long as it was research-backed, as is anyone who takes the stage at Harvard, as well as was promoted by Harvard with them knowing fully well what the subject was about; it's been part of their policy to elicit "free-thinkers" and "innovators" who change the world to hold events/talks like this.

It's off-topic but very true: this first experience for males is a painful one without anesthetic, performed on one of the most currently developed parts of their body with the highest amount of nerve endings, resulting in permanent damage to the amygdalae (the part of your brain responsible for fight/flight as well as negative emotions, and takes up some of the front portion of the temporal lobes), which has been correlated to high rates of suicide, mood disorders, anxiety and depression in afflicted males in research studies that were attacked by the JIDF after coming out in around 2013..

They had to cease the research studies because they felt it broke the standard research morals and ethics "of do no harm" (keep in mind, this is happening at least every 10 minutes if we're being generous with time, 24/7); one participant seized due to the pain (this was captured via equipment used monitoring brain activity, as well as equipment monitoring vitals), and the others were visibly affected both physically and biologically (they were put into fMRIs, using tape to strap them to a board avoiding any metal objects while the procedure was preformed). Inflammation in the brain didn't decrease until about 2 weeks. All were infants.

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Baby boomers will start dying en masse due to age within the next 15 years, so who cares?

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

yes, let's continue the empowerment of all niche micro groups, build them up on an imaginary powerful groups by inflating numbers by combining the groups, and leverage all else; let the divide, and conquer continue!

Nevermind the govt, nevermind the taxes, nevermind that our money is fiat; these aren't the issues you seek...muhahahaha

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The United Nations exists for a reason. If a civil war broke out in our country, within 2 weeks time we'd have the military, FEMA and UN soldiers on US soil fighting citizens.

Politics is literally a stage filled with actors. Yeah our money is fiat. The Federal Reserve/Government is a huge issue that should have ended a long time ago. But who's using these systems to their advantage?

It always comes down to one group, and it's why they've been removed from 100+ nations. It's why George Soros is banned from six.

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Greed is what we fight. Jail is what we call for. Fun times

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Leftists:unregulated firearms contribute to school shootings and mass shootings! We should ban assault rifles!

Rightists:but how would i protect myself from tyrant government if you take my guns away? And stop blaming inanimate objects! Guns isnt a problem! Crazy people are!

Leftists:Alright... well how about we introduce more gun control policies and introduce some sort of testing for people who wants to buy guns? You know, to make sure that people who buy those assault rifles arent clinically insane?

Rightists:thats...thats a conspiracy! You want to introduce those policies so that the feds would have a list of people who has guns so that they can take those guns away easier!

Leftists:....

See the problem here?

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You can keep your muskit!

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think the gun arena topic is dead on arrival. If you look at statistics on what kills the most, we could place cars, hammers, baseball bats, kitchen knives, doctors, hospitals, and the AMA on that list ahead of guns.

I do assert my Inalienable Rights, my Natural Rights, and do support the Bill of Rights. A Right by definition cannot be taken as it's inalienable; which to be taken is to be subjugated, controlled, and another, or others have dominion over; aka a slave.

Having that said, oh yeah, I see the problem we all in fight within the set topics, and narratives within as provided by the cabal. We've been trained by society to eagerly attempt to take another common person's Rights just because; yet failing to ask always on every topic, 'who benefits'.

A lot of people blame the Jews, as is evident in this thread. There are always lots of people to blame, because it's so much easier to blame, critique, or criticize over being actual change on the individual level.

To further that thought, we as a species have been trained in the 20th, and 21st centuries to look to someone else to solve 'the' problem, rather than fix it ourselves. We've been taught to exist in a perpetual faux nanny state, where there are 'apparent' solutions, but the body, or the whole is eaten away like cancer.

I don't blame anyone per say, but I attempt to be the change in my own life, and in my community, and by the way I live my life.

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Oh please, stop with semantics. Im talking about how people love doing all sorts of mental gymnastics just so they dont have to go for compromises and so they could have things their way.

Half of the time people that are identified as "conservatives" on the internet straight up refuse to participate in any kind of debate, and people who are ether moderates or left are tired of this shit. You cant just puke out your opinion out there and then when you get criticised for this opinion you go:"blah blah blah not listening you are a cooky libtard blah blah".

And im not saying it because i think that only internet "conservatives" are participating in such behaviour. Everyone does that. But only those "conservatives" always explicitly state that they are the rational ones, even though they are clearly not.

You either argue in a good faith or scream like a retard trying to promote your narrative. But if you do the second one dont expect people to take you seriously.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh please, stop with semantics. Im talking about how people love doing all sorts of mental gymnastics just so they dont have to go for compromises and so they could have things their way.

Half of the time people that are identified as "conservatives" on the internet straight up refuse to participate in any kind of debate, and people who are ether moderates or left are tired of this shit. You cant just puke out your opinion out there and then when you get criticised for this opinion you go:"blah blah blah not listening you are a cooky libtard blah blah".

And im not saying it because i think that only internet "conservatives" are participating in such behaviour. Everyone does that. But only those "conservatives" always explicitly state that they are the rational ones, even though they are clearly not.

You either argue in a good faith or scream like a retard trying to promote your narrative. But if you do the second one dont expect people to take you seriously.

Oh, I remember you!

Before I write too much, so as to muddy the waters, what have I said that doesn't make sense to you, or where am I wrong specifically, then I can respond directly to that.

As it stands, I'm not sure what you're stating. I read the OP as pointing out how they're dividing and conquering; which I posted in regards to niche groups being exploited to marginalize the larger whole; at least that's what I meant.

I totally comprehend your left/right comment, and returned in kind. As close as I wanted to touch what you wrote; I'm neither left, or right, and don't care whatever anyone wants to label me.

On that note though, maybe there's no discussion here.

[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Before I write too much, so as to muddy the waters, what have I said that doesn't make sense to you, or where am I wrong specifically, then I can respond directly to that.

I dont see anything particular that is wrong, its just it isnt that related to the issue that im trying to bring up.

As it stands, I'm not sure what you're stating. I read the OP as pointing out how they're dividing and conquering;

I believe that no one is dividing nor conquering shit. Well there are some organisations (read:corporations, politicians) that sometimes try to gain some profits from all that drama but in its core i thing that conflict is created mostly by human nature.

Of course there is always some indirect influence from those said organizations, but it isnt as big and direct as you would think and i dont thing this influence wouldve been even noticeable if not for the fact that people in general are so unbelievably stupid.

Plus majority of people dont give a shit anyways. All those loud people you see on the social media is a minority.

I'm neither left, or right,

I dont really label you anything, nor do i care how you identify yourself. That is irrelevant to me. I only use labels to name a certain patterns for the sake of convenience.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I liked that post. I got your point, and agree human nature itself is flawed. On that note though, I do think there are generational families, groups, and lineage corporations that absolutely have the knowledge to control the minds of the masses, and do.

My main point though, we shouldn't allow ourselves to be subdivided, subjugated, or controlled, whether by outside wealthier oligarchs, or by our fellow people.

We do have a global private monopoly printing everyone's currency, and it's fiat. My point in mentioning this, is that everywhere I look there's abundance, but it's usually establishment owned. I have a problem with that, since they create money out of thin air to pay for their spoils, and at that exact moment of thievery, their deeds devalue any money anyone's got in pocket, wallet, or bank; which means that 'abundance' was just diminished, and after a few decades it's by a lot.

People are now fighting over resources due to this sort of shit, and daily those .001% of people masquerading as philanthropists, public servants, oligarchs, or feudal lords(royals) just get richer, and richer. That's not due to any form of government 'ism', but directly due to who controls what we call money, and who produces it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry for the reply, but I enjoyed the discussion you guys had. On the note of your last paragraph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPYuA4SlQo

I hope Saidit stays this way (This thread was full of serious discussion, as well as memes/jokes, and no one really attacked each other for their beliefs. That was both rare and nice.)