Day One, Biden Destroys Girls' Sports With Anti-Science Executive Order

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[–]StillLessons 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (71 children)

What a slap in the face to biological women.

You should never be forced to do this, but if this anti-female environment proves durable, I wonder what the possibilities are for creating private clubs with private funding where only biological females are allowed to compete. Women, you unfortunately may need to look into this. Otherwise, as the headline says, girls' sports are no longer allowed.

What a mindset. They really hate the universe as it is naturally configured, just hate it.

[–]GConly 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

, I wonder what the possibilities are for creating private clubs with private funding where only biological females are allowed to compete.

What's going to happen in athletics is a shit load of male athletes will enter women's races, either for profit or giggles. Then we'll have a year or two with no female winners, and the bulk of the population will kick up a stink.

It's sad to say that it may now be illegal to form women only spaces, which includes changing rooms.

Women are a lot less confrontational than men, they'll just start withdrawing from using facilities that allow men into areas where they are vulnerable. Gyms and pools etc that have single stall changing will be the only ones women will use after a bit.

Then businesses that lose female customers will start kicking up a stink about the cost of changing their facilities to single occupancy stalls.

Women, you unfortunately may need to look into this.

We've been kicking up a stink since 2017. Made some progress in the UK.

[–]EvilNick 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Women are a lot less confrontational than men

I agree with everything but this statement

[–]GConly 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

On average we are.

Not including myself, raging testosterone fueled bitch that I am.

But when there is some kind of confrontation that could turn nasty in some way women are just less likely to deal with it head on. Hard to say whether it's down to innate difference or just because we learn in our teens it's just not a good idea to challenge men because of their violence. After all, one decent punch from a man can kill a woman.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And in the same genre, one decent grope from Joe Biden will be IGNORED by the entire media!

Picture on the left; my other source of this image has for some reason been removed recently.

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    [–]jet199 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

    Or because he lives with his mother.

    [–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    bet I make more and own more houses than you, and your mom........... combined

    [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactlly

    [–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ghay

    [–]369 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

    You can have Feminism/Gynocentrism or you can have realism and Traditional Values.

    You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

    [–]StillLessons 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Too many "-isms". This isn't about any -ism. It's about respecting objective reality and accommodating ourselves to it rather than trying to legislate it away to fit the yelling of a small group of people who find themselves unable to function in a society designed around the 99+% of people who accept reality as it has been conceived of for thousands of years.

    [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It seems we completely agree. I don't see the point in sperging over my choice of words.
    Boring.

    [–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The problem with "-isms" is that everyone defines them differently. One person's feminism is another's "anti-trans". By using broad terms such as these, a whole bunch of unrelated arguments get brought in where they are not helpful, and the water gets muddied.

    [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't see a lot of difference between the two "-isms".

    [–]jet199 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

    Which traditional values?

    [–]PlanetoftheClowns 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    "Traditional" values. The statement was quite clear. You're obviously a retard progressive troll.

    [–]jet199 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

    So the traditional values of the Etoro tribe in Papua New Guinea it is then.

    [–]PlanetoftheClowns 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Go dilate you obtuse piece of shit.

    [–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm not the one being obtuse.

    Which traditional values?

    Which country, which culture?

    [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    I love how he had a real point here, and in responding all you've done is prove it by being completely unable to answer a simple question.

    [–]PlanetoftheClowns 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    he had a real point here

    So, being purposely obtuse by pretending not to know the context of the statement passes for a "real point" these days, eh? You should go join him. Maybe you two can scissor while you dilate.

    [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Or, I can repeat the question, and watch as you struggle to come up with an answer as you have already been doing.

    What traditional values?

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    🤣

    [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I think its a real female that one 🤢

    [–]PlanetoftheClowns 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    It has replied to other comments I've made with the same obtuse attitude. Definitely a troll. I care not what it is.

    [–]Comatoast 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It's not obtuse to wonder precisely what tradition that you're referring to in regards to traditional values. Many functional cultures have different traditional values.

    So what traditional values are you referring to? Which specific culture and time period?

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    We will not tell

    [–]wecandobetter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Personal attack is quite low on the pyramid of debate, and is widely regarded a 'point lost' in internet argument rules.

    [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The ones Feminism set out to dismantle.

    [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's become abundantly clear that you yourself hate all of the things you insist everyone else believes you are passionate about.

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      [–]copenseethe 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      It is s point worth making that the door was opened for this sort of thing when we contested the right of men to have private clubs that exclude women.

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          [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          The substance of the prevailing argument was that men in men's spaces have casual interactions which influence professional outcomes and that the existence of men's only spaces therefore generates professional and civic disadvantages for women.

          Thusly, a women's only space would generate professional and civic disadvantages for trans women, who are more oppressed, per the experts.

          Of course, you could always just pass the buck all the way up to white men. I guess that's why "gender critical" advocates cling to a position within the medium-far left. But that's not going to obstruct tranny's ultimate victory over their objections.

          [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          On the contrary, I think the correlation between the two ideologies is stark.

          [–]madcow-5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

          Lol, it’s what they voted for.

          [–]EvilNick 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

          im willing to best most of them didnt

          [–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          He literally said he would do this on his first day in office then he did it.

          Biden has personal charities and one of g he main things their donate to is groups which lobby for the medical transition of kids.

          [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          He literally said he would do this on his first day in office

          When did he say it?

          [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          https://saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/66y5/bidens_first_move_in_office/

          [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

          They know what the left is. There’s no excuse.

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            [–]wecandobetter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            I don't think very many women on Gendercritical have voted DFL in an election cycle or two.

            [–]wristaction 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Which is quite a conundrum. Are there any left/center-left parties which are not pro-tranny? Even the GOP is pro-tranny. The first act of this purportedly ultra-right SCOTUS majority under Barrett was to punt a case about tranny bathroom access. Even the Alt-Light, at the height of its influence, felt obligated to adopt a token based tranny.

            [–]wecandobetter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Yeah I think everyone is kind of looking out the window, realizing there's literally no one representing a majority of our interests, and regrouping. It's not going to be more the same old going forward.

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            The truth is that the only two candidates who were defending women and our troops (Bernie and Tulsi) were systematically undermined by EVERY democrat, up to and INCLUDING pres Obama. There is no HOPE for progressive ideas near that coven of jackalls.

            [–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I hope we see more from Tulsi Gabbard. I've come to respect her a lot.

            [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Alright, this is true. Most of the people vaguely paying attention from a distance think it's all a bunch of reasonable benevolent stuff and the people against it are all just racist.

            But I think these people need to be shamed. Not for their views, but for how uninformed they are, yet voted anyway. They're the wind behind the sails, even if they're not steering the ship.

            [–]nuhuhno 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            NAWALT. Not all women voted for Biden. But, go ahead and gloat that ALL women will have to suffer for this. After all, nO MEN vOtED fOR biDEn, right?

            [–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            NAWALT

            Well, duh..

            You're getting upset over nothing. Unless you're upset that you voted for Biden, which you should be. Also, the men who voted Biden get FAR less respect from me than the women. Women at least have nurturing tendencies. They're more likely to be progressive. This isn't some insult this is just reality.

            [–]nuhuhno 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Not upset, just ribbing ya.

            I didn't resist throwing some snark in with facts.

            ;)

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            the men who voted Biden get FAR less respect from me than the women. Women at least have nurturing tendencies. They're more likely to be progressive.

            Biden

            Progressive

            😂😂👌

            IF you voted for the chick who unlawfully kept people locked up, you are not a progressive, you are wannabe stalinists.

            [–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            That’s what progressives are. Have you been to a city or a college in the last five years?

            [–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I mean didnt vote for them, not didnt know

            [–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            We really didn't. It's been sneaked in via sneak add ons to legislation mostly.

            [–]madcow-5 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            There’s no pretending to be blind to what the left is at this point.

            I get being tricked into supporting a bunch of marxist intersectional stuff by attending the first (and only the first) women’s march, but you know what the left is now.

            If you voted for Biden, you voted for the cult.

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            There’s no pretending to be blind

            Most people still watch MSM. Dont be a fookin cunt mate just because they are still fooled by anderson cooper's red propoganda. EDUCATE, dont be a cuckold fuck.

            [–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            It's been known he would do this for months.

            https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/66y5/bidens_first_move_in_office/

            [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Oh no, I'm talking internationally.

            [–]emptiedriver 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            I've seen pro trans people say that they wouldn't accept trans sports leagues, but they'd be fine with "transphobic" teams starting on their own - meaning that for women who don't want to compete against men, it would be seen as politically hateful to join such a group, and therefore many young female athletes would feel peer pressured to compete in the broader "women and trans women" group, even if trans women seemed to win at a much higher rate than their percentage of that population would predict. Maybe there would be a tipping point if it became too obviously dominated by second tier male athletes, but I don't know that women would find it feasible to separate to a biological-only group before that, just due to the way it would be represented.

            [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Isn't the appropriate venue for trannies the Special Olympics?

            [–]nuhuhno 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            No coercion in that at all. "Let us beat you or get labeled." /s

            Bet female athletes would go that route just for the sake of getting to do sports without the risk of serious injuries!

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            hey'd be fine with "transphobic" teams starting on their own - meaning that for women who don't want to compete against men, it would be seen as politically hateful to join such a group, and therefore many young female athletes would feel peer pressured to compete in the broader "women and trans women" group, even if trans women seemed to win at a much higher rate than their percentage of that population would predict.

            'Just get 3 billion dollars and start a new league so that trans women can feel nice'

            [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            White male gentiles weren't permitted to have exclusive spaces. What makes you think you're allowed?

            https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/04/sports/golf-the-high-price-of-victory.html

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            They really hate the universe as it is naturally configured, just hate it.

            Nah, they got more people to vote for Joe by making this an 'IMPORTANT' issue, most MSMlibs dont know whatever the hell they are voting for.

            Joe increased the prisons, helped throw people out of their homes, increased the war deaths, and is pretty fucking repulsive.

            But now, he's fighting for LGBT rights, uwuu!

            [–]RatherSmallPotato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            By using the term "biological women" you let them win. Women are women, men are men. There's no such thing as biological women, just women.

            [–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            This is a very good point. Unfortunately, because the trans-activists have so attacked the language, they make it difficult not to force clarification. Basically, though, I agree with you.

            [–]Canbot 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8647171/transgender-woman-sexually-assaulted-girl-morrisons/

            [–]Canbot 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/feds-probe-gender-fluid-boys-restroom-assault-on-girl-5/

            [–]divingrightintowork 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            God has there been an update there?

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            There are no sources, stop eating faked news, divinR.

            [–]divingrightintowork 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Looks like they're getting sued - https://www.ajc.com/news/local-education/decatur-schools-make-deal-after-feds-find-sex-assault-case-mishandled/nfKar7yXk8biJpCvXED1CJ/

            [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            When the victim is a minor they don't give details to protect the identity of the minor. It's not fake news just because you don't like it.

            [–]divingrightintowork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Follow up - they're getting sued - https://www.ajc.com/news/local-education/decatur-schools-make-deal-after-feds-find-sex-assault-case-mishandled/nfKar7yXk8biJpCvXED1CJ/

            [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Science is used only when it fits the Clown Worldᵀᴹ narrative.

            [–]Trajan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            Although it sucks that women and girls will be put at a disadvantage, combined with the spectacle of grown men getting to be naked around girls, this will only hasten the push-back against the identitarian left. Normal people leap from the trans train when they see the degeneracy it brings into their lives.

            [–]StillLessons 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            I realized after I wrote my first comment above that the second element you note here is far more damaging than the first. The sports question is an absolute rejection of biological observation and is notable for that, but the damage that is being done to biological females by the elimination of spaces where they can be safe from male sexuality is insanely traumatic. This will affect their sense of safety in ways beyond calculation. Trans activists are destroying so much more than they even begin to understand.

            [–]nuhuhno 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Unconscious females in mixed sex hospital wards ROOMS, disabled a/o elderly home-bound women unable to specify preferred sex of intimate care-givers, children's camp bunkhouses, the list is LONG...

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            The year is 2042, a small band of brave feminists has survived the 43rd Tranny Onslaught, currently being chased by an Omnipotent BlueCheckmark AI only known as "The mother", it refers to itself in the third person, but is once believed to be the last AntiQueer WereWitch on tumblr, whose overarching goal is to track down EVERY freethinking woman, and force them to touch her tranny Benis, hutning down the last members of the LGB resistance that REFUSED it's male advances.

            [–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Yup, made worse by the people seeking to enter those spaces being either suffering from serious mental health issues, hence the treatment, and/or sexual degenerates who will use this access for their sexual gratification.

            If there's one thing that's true of Western culture it is that going after women and children is a good way of inciting a backlash. I hope it comes quickly and I hope it drags the rest of the left-wing identitarian movements back to the pit from which they emerged.

            [–]buffalo_fart 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

            that first bathroom rape will be a doosy for the gov.

            [–]GConly 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

            We've already had an attempted rape on a little girl because of this shit in the UK. The offender calls himself Katie Dolatowski.

            It actually seems to have caught enough attention, along with the sexual assaults by transwomen in women's prisons, to cool the UK gov off on the whole thing.

            American MMM seems to keeping the sexual assaults and indecent exposures etc out if the public eye. There was a list on the Reddit gender critical sub of them.

            I can also prove with stats they have the same sex offending rate as other men. Something they are really fucking desperate to conceal.

            [–]EvilNick 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

            prove with stats they have the same sex offending rate as other men

            because theyre MEN

            [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

            Mentally ill men. Mentally ill men we don't know how to fix.

            [–]madcow-5 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            The fix for like 80% of them is probably lay off the porn.

            The fix for the female ones is probably to make something else trendy. Girls becoming trans right now is just the new cutting/bulimia.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            I wish it was that easy. There is a theory that transgender went from being a psychological disorder to a valid lifestyle because it highlights modern psychiatry's inability to fix any psychological condition. That despite spending billions of dollars on pharmaceuticals, the drugs don't work.

            [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            The fact is that if you have most illnesses you have do almost all of the work of healing yourself.

            Even with a physical illnesses which has some kind of magic bullet cure if you don't put the work in to get better and keep healthy in other aspects your chances won't be great.

            Mental illnesses do get resolved but not by doctors. Some times you just grow out of them. I've certainly known trans people do that, it's unfortunately pretty common that 5 years after full surgery they will realise they made a mistake and want to be changed back.

            Weirdly though antidepressants do seem to get rid of gender dysphoria in some men, probably because they kill their libido. There was good research being done into this 20 years ago but it all got shut down by activists. That's the trouble with mental illnesses, to get better you have to admit you have a problem in the first place.

            [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Because psychology is pseudoscience. Psychiatrists are essentially priests with prescription pads.

            [–]nuhuhno 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            So we'll give em full access, make women pander to them, then if they're caught raping in the restroom, we'll put em in women's prison facilities, put their woman name on the sex offender registry, and add their crime stat to the "female criminal offense" database.

            [–]EvilNick 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            we'll put em in women's prison facilities

            where they can rape more women

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Exchuse me, sweeteh? This is 2021, We call it TrannyTRIBUTE, you bigot!

            [–]wristaction 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            And then, 2000 years later an archeologist will dig up his bones and catalogue him as male.

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            an archeologist will catalogue as male.

            Before finding the funco boxes. and 1lb weights.

            [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            they have the same sex offending rate as other men. Something they are really fucking desperate to conceal.

            Different Gender argument: ✔️ REKT

            [–]No_ 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            It’s already happened, and the man got sent to a woman’s prison where he raped another woman

            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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              [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              TERFs actually got some good meme game down with the phrase "this never happens". There was a website by that name with a listing of incidents (possibly shut down by Wordpress), but there's a similar FaceBerg group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1722756661380462/

              [–]Canbot 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              It's already happening. I read a story years ago about a trans "girl" who molested a first grader in the bathroom. I don't believe anything was done.

              [–]madcow-5 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              It just wont get covered, and the bathroom topic will be memory holed until people forget.

              [–]AcceleratedWallops 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              Because bathroom rapes have never happened before this...🙄

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              The really funny thing is it wasn't a big deal to use the other gendered bathroom before. I mean, you didn't do it because you thought you were a girl, but if the other one is out, being cleaned, you have kids, etc. It wasn't an issue.

              [–]nuhuhno 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              These "genderfeels folx" aren't breaking down stereotypes and expectations, they're demanding them!

              [–]wristaction 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              You'll never hear about it. If you try to share it on social media you'll be banned. But you'll have the privilege to watch advocates on mainstream media outlets proclaim that no such thing has ever happened, knowing such a thing has happened. And the way they'll handle whatever evidence of such things happening will be to anathematize and ritualistically defame the victims.

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (48 children)

              pro-trans is not anti-science. Anti-science is denying: climate change, tobacco safety, vaccine efficacy, evolutionary theory, mask wearing...

              [–]jet199 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

              How is denying the male and female sex binary exist not anti science.

              Science isn't only what your political side supports, you know.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

              This is more of a cultural issue than a science issue. Otherwise nobody is truly male or female until they give birth to kids.

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              How about, for the sake of argument, we say people with a cock are men, and people without a cock are women.

              Obviously pinoy lady boys get a pass. But it's the only pass.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              I wouldn't use porn as a starting point for gender issues.

              [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

              Otherwise nobody is truly male or female until they give birth to kids.

              That's not how any of this works. Ugly women are still women. "Five foot nothing" manlets are still men. Your sex is determined by your chromosomal arrangement, and isn't contingent on whether or not you successfully breed.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              The science is way more complicated than that.

              https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/gonads-xy

              [–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

              Did you really just bring a fucking podcast link to an argument about science?

              [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Must be a chapo turd

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Yep. A science podcast. If you delve into it a bit more, you can find the peer reviewed science the podcast story is based on. They aren't talking to anonymous 4chan trolls.

              [–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              As a general rule, you can expect that most people are not interested in listening to an entire podcast to pluck the factual information out. If there were peer reviewed medical articles, link those directly if you want anyone to give your arguments the time of day.

              [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

              In fact yes, and much of the left has abandoned the pseudoscience and retreated to constructivist arguments, but one still winds up confronted by Vauch types who believe that transgenderism is validated by some kind of advanced science you're ignorant of because you're not intellectual enough to have read about it in the science section of Pink News.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

              I think I am intellectual enough to get it. If you are a real intellectual yourself, and you review your "intellectual" anti-trans cohorts, you will find plenty of QANON, young earth creationists, and anti-vax. If that is your idea of pro-science intellectuals, I suggest you read some Carl Sagan.

              https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/gonads-xy

              [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

              In other words, in the index of gullibility and susceptibility to propaganda, Q believers are more grounded than believers of trans pseudoscience.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

              Your the one who is confused about trans because you can't overcome what you were told when you were 5. By the way, there is no such thing as santa.

              [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              The real crackup is that shitlibs also have "advanced math" which proves that 2+2!4 so that route of parody reference is closed off to rational people.

              https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/08/31/harvard-promotes-claim-that-225/

              Let us know when the lesbian poetry professors determine what additional gametes transgendereds contribute to reproduction.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Trans are awesome at contributing to reproduction. Drag queen storytime is a quintessential part of modern childhood.

              [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Trans are pedos who should be on prison

              [–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              nobody is truly male or female until they give birth to kids.

              Male = The member of the species who has the ability to produce the smaller,mobile gamete.

              Female = The member of the species who has the ability to produce the larger,immobile gamete .

              That's it.

              [–]No_ 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

              Pro trans is as anti science as anti vaccine is.

              [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              Vaccine fake and gay too

              [–]No_ 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

              Erf flat

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              No. It isn't. And the issues over trans is more a matter of culture than science.

              [–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Nope. Trans rhetoric actively denies science.

              The science says 90% of transwomen have a fetish which they get in adulthood and have brains the same as normal men.

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/

              Trans rhetoric says they are all born that way and have some kind of internal feminine essence which means they are really women.

              [–]No_ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Yeah, that’s what I’m saying...

              [–]StillLessons 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

              Once upon a time in a long-ago far off land, science was the activity of observing our world and the skies, noting and classifying the different types and kinds of materials and processes, and discovering how they interacted so as to better understand said world and where we fit into the scheme of things. Among the most basic classifications, clear enough that even the youngest of children recognize it, is that of male and female. A child seeing a pair of dogs, for example, male and female, will notice that one has a penis and the other doesn't. Naturally, that child will ask why? And guess what? The answer has nothing to do with what the dogs wanted or chose, or how they identify. The dogs are male and female. They were born that way, for reasons that have absolutely zero to with their individual perception of the world. They were never given a choice, and there is nothing they can do about it, nor is there any reason they should have any desire to do anything about it. End of story. This is the simplest of concepts. I am still - even after several years of witnessing it - in shock that so many people are willing to complicate the simplest observation in the universe beyond the point of all recognition. Either there is an objective natural world to observe (the intent of true science), or there isn't. Which is it? If male and female don't exist, then you might as well throw out animal, vegetable, and mineral as well. There is no more science behind that classification than there is behind male and female. The fact that a small portion of humans have a psychological or psychiatric (not sure which, probably some with one, others with the other) glitch which leads to their personality not matching their biological sex does not negate the original classification. But the Biden camp (which is not necessarily the same thing as Biden, who is observably senile) has here declared precisely that. There is no greater anti-science stance possible.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

              Look up 'complete androgen insensitivity syndrome'.

              [–]wecandobetter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

              The ultra-rare genetic defect of true genital hermaphroditism does not negate the fact that homo sapien is a binary-sex species. The statistic is thrown around a lot that intersex conditions are as common as redheads....but that's only true if you include the 99.9% of people who still have fully functional sexed genitalia and secondary sex characteristics, just have some minor differenced hormone sensitivity. So in other words, it's bullshit.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

              That is not the only way sexual phenotypes become more androgynous. And you can't point to the rarity of the condition while ignoring the rarity of trans.

              [–]wecandobetter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

              Listen, I'm pro-trans in the sense that I support every single human being's unalienable right to be free from violence, from religious or political persecution, from discriminatory hiring practices or barring from education, public services, etc. You know, rights. I do not see it as their right to have 99% of the population cater to their mental illness by pretending that a transwoman is literally, in every meaningful sense, a woman. Sports are divided along dimorphic sexual lines FOR A REASON. And the trans activists have glommed on to people with genetic hormone disorders to argue that 'well because Caster Semenya's case is genuinely complicated, all the rest of us should get to compete in women's sports too!". Fuck off. Also I believe Caster Semenya was banned from several female track competition events.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

              Fuck you and your homophobic bullshit.

              https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/gonads-xy

              [–]wecandobetter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              I thought you were talking about trans people lol. How did we arrive at homophobia? Nevermind. I know there's no changing your mind.

              [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Please don't repeatedly drag the quality of discussion downward with ad hominems, thank you. https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

              [–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              You got me! I hate homers, go fuck yourself u/homermobile

              [–]nuhuhno 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

              And the issues over trans is more a matter of culture than science.

              Your own words...

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              You insist it is a science. There is a science component. It doesn't look good for your side.

              But it is mostly a cultural issue. Hatred of trans often comes from right wing politics and/or patriarchal religions. It is not an objective reality.

              [–]cant_even 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              You sir, have demonstrated unenlightenment. /S

              You ignore the 'modern' formula "MYTruth > truth", where objective reality is subordinate to perception.

              [–]madcow-5 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              When leftists claim someone denies climate change, 99.99% of the time the person isn’t denying it, they’re just trying to have an adult conversation on the topic and the leftist feels criticized because the conversation involves thought, instead of circle-jerking about how evil they think republicans are.

              [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              I have no hate for trans people. It is still weird to pretend someone is a different gender than the one they obviously are. It's like pretending my niece was a Princess when she was 5, but with adults.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

              tobacco safety

              Uhh, I'm gon'o back on up now.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

              You a smoker?

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              No, but most people in my family are, and I know very well that it ain't nowhere near safe.

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              If they don't already you should suggest they roll their own smokes. It cuts the cost dramatically. A pack costs me about a buck. I paid $60 for my mikromatic rolling machine (it costs $40 on Amazon) several years back and that's saved me thousands of dollars over the years.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              My parents used to do that

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              I am not saying tobacco is safe. I am talking about its safety. Tobacco has poor safety.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Ah, you should probably reword that one. It sounds like you're saying it's anti-science to deny tobacco's safety. Oops.

              [–]Stroika 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              “Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports,”

              Children have never been denied access to restrooms, locker rooms or school sports.

              [–]NodeIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              Would love to see their faces when they realize what they've been asking for.

              [–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Most of the people supporting this have no interest in or actively hate sports.

              They aren't ever going to care about the out come.

              Edit: see https://youtu.be/bZnlFEUvn7Y

              [–]Elizapornberry 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              So doesn’t this still have to be agreed upon with congress? They can still send it back to Biden’s desk right? Kind of funny that Gabbard was mentioned when my SO’s lib fem wife says she LOVES her (but is spouting off ‘kill terfs fuck jk rowling’ on her IG) I think she has no idea about legislation and personal beliefs of our constituents.

              [–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              This is an executive order. As such, I believe the theory is that the congress has already written the law, and that it is now up to the executive (the president) to interpret and implement what congress wrote. What we have here is the new administration's interpretation. Unless the congress comes back and corrects the administration's interpretation (or the courts declare it unacceptable per the constitution), this is immediately the law of the land. Someone with more legal knowledge than I have can correct me on this, but I believe this is where we are in the process.

              [–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Nothing of value was lost.

              [–]RelianceTrust 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Take your girls out of sports and get them into the garden.

              No one takes any synthetic hormones in the Permaculture Garden https://youtu.be/f_6WRJiTtzE

              [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              GCs have to contend with this before I can empathize with their complaint about their stuff.

              https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-sarah-fuller-female-kicker-biden-inauguration-20210117-rzmoc2m2djdrhb7rd4pm5ocmwi-story.html

              The funny thing is that no trans men are trying to break into men's sports or prisons, so my focus vis. trannies is on the ghouls who want to transition children.