s/holohoax quarantined (reddit-style)

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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (21 children)

I didn't even know it existed ...Why was it quarantined, when? The moderation log is missing as far as I can tell... u/magnora7, what happened?

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    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    We might release a sitewide ban list, but that's the only piece of information that isn't already public

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    You should update this https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

    Clearly you're taking Reddit like measures. Major decisions not based on the set of rules given to the users?

    I personally want to know if the subs I manage are safe from these draconian measures of yours in the future, or not.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The rules haven't changed one bit, so nothing needs updating. Stuff that was banned was banned for rules that have existed and been enforced for years.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    https://saidit.net/s/holohoax/

    This is a treasure trove of historical records and NOTHING BUT. Ok, so the OP was butthurt over something or another, but why was the information locked that he left behind???

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    The email option is quite odd. I don't like that... but the sub name itself is annoying because not even scholars of holocaust revsionism deny Jewish persecution in Nazi germany, they just don't believe there were gas chambers or that 6 million died.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree, the thought police in both jurisdictions should compare their notes. What if someone was to believe 6 trillion died, oy vey

    [–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Look at the single user who had content and was mod:

    https://saidit.net/user/critias

    Looks like the user was removing posts simply because he disagreed with them:

    https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/3x4m?context=3

    https://saidit.net/s/PissEarthBegins/comments/1krr/abandoned_my_sub_fuck_this_site_poalco_it_is/

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    Ok, I see Magnora had an issue with the mod censorship. But, why is the sub quarantined you think, because no one can actively mod it?

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Because the sub is a stupid idea.

    It can/will be weaponized, to make the entire site appear line an "antisemetic" "holocaust denier" operation.

    The right wing posts are already being sockpuppeted to discourage other left leaning people from joining. Albion Times bullshit, etc.

    Everything and anything related to the holocaust can be submitted into /s/holocaust.

    Facts, fiction, etc., whatever; can all be posted/discussed/debated from the current holocaust sub.

    Certain measures should be taken to protect the site from malicious attack. Internal and external.

    I don't like it. No doubt M7 doesn't like it either.

    The servers are in a European country. In some places there are legal penalties for antisemitism, or even questioning the narrative of concerning the holocaust.

    A sub named "holohoax" is a recipe for disaster.

    This is a small sacrifice.

    IMHO.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

    Because the sub is a stupid idea. It can/will be weaponized, to make the entire site appear line an "antisemetic" "holocaust denier" operation.

    It's a message board with hundreds of different user generated subs. How can a single sub make it appear anything...??(I didn't even know it existed until yesterday btw, it's so prominent).

    The right wing posts are already being sockpuppeted to discourage other left leaning people from joining.

    That is irrelevant for this discussion, even if it's happening. Unless, you're suggesting a cOnSpIrAcY on the right is being fought with a managerial conspiracy.

    Everything and anything related to the holocaust can be submitted into /s/holocaust.

    Are you sure, massa?

    The servers are in a European country. In some places there are legal penalties for antisemitism, or even questioning the narrative of concerning the holocaust.

    So your earlier argument about our ability to post anything into s/holocaust was just bullshit, or this argument is bullshit conjecture...

    A sub named "holohoax" is a recipe for disaster. This is a small sacrifice.

    For the "greater good" of what...making Reddit 2.0, with all the SJW NPC's comfortable like lambs for slaughter in their oblivion?

    Shame

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    Listen bro.

    I'm not going to pretend to disagree with you about much of what you're saying. In fact, I mostly agree.

    Some of what I've written could be perceived as hypocritical, except I don't disagree with you on any philosophical level.

    Everyone knows that numerous groups have made it one of their life goals to attack (sue, extort, kidnap, discredit, harass, sabotage, pursue, murder, etc.) anyone and everyone who is associated with open discussions related to questioning the official narrative of the "holocaust".

    Certain groups have mercilessly targeted almost everyone who has allowed any oped discussion of this.

    For the "greater good" of what...making Reddit 2.0, with all the SJW NPC's comfortable like lambs for slaughter in their oblivion?
    I never said anything about any "greater good" or any of the rest, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

    I suppose the hypocrisy part of what I'm saying is:

    If I was going to personally stick my neck out there, so that anyone and everyone could openly discuss "the holocaust" then I would be watching that shit with both eyes, and keep close tabs what was going on there.

    For my own personal safety, and sense of security.

    Anyone who did not take some measure of keep tabs on what was going on, would be taking a serious risk.

    Conversely, this could be a "holocaust" monitoring operation, or whatever. IDK. Could be.

    Who knows. There's no way for anyone to know for certain.

    I've posted more about this than most, so if there is a list then I'm surely on it somewhere.

    I do know that a person can say pretty much anything they want to; excluding porn, (which is an internet epidemic and can be found elsewhere).

    Shame

    Yeah. A little bit. I don't like it either.

    Though, wouldn't he be an idiot to not cover some of his bases?
    Wouldn't i also be a hypocrite for expecting him to accept additional risk? Assuming it's about risk, and I cannot say for certain.
    So, am I a default hypocrite regardless of my position? IDK.

    Wouldn't you do something similar if you were in that position?

    I suppose I am considering the "what would I do in similar circumstances?" question; and M7 has already gone further than the others, so....

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      [–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      That is a principled position.

      He's put in the time to build the site, and he had the reputation at reddit to populate it when there was no one here.

      It would be even better if you started your own site. You could run it as you see fit.

      Let me know how to find it if/when you do.

      [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      I don't want the site because i wouldn't wanna chase demons off of it daily. Keep the login email and passwords and put my name on it if he's scared of the jews. Which is normal to be scared because the times have not been this bad in a loong time.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I wouldn't want to be the MOD of that sub.

      The mod would likely be a target at some point, as well.

      Also, I don't want to be a MOD of any sub.

      I generally DGAF about most complaining, but you and /s/fred_red_beans are cool (and it wasn't really either of your complaints), so I figured I'd chime in.

      This is also Round 2 of alternative holocaust sub closures.

      if he's scared of the jews

      I get the sense he isn't afraid of "the jews" either.
      Or maybe he is.

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Codoh.com read uo about it. We don't have good enough mods that would moderate a sub fulltime for this but if you applied Codoh.com's rules to holocaust revisionist saidit sub, at least 3/4 of all posters would be banned. For codoh mods ban anyone who spews ad hominems for they bring nothing to the discussion.

      "But where muh free speech!"

      That's what the ignorant would say, not realizing that they bring no facts and no argument to the discussion only fallacies and static.

      [–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Yea, maybe - I don't know...

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      EDIT. Answered the wrong comment. :-/

      [–]konoplya 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

      is this site turning into a leftist shithole as well or what?

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        [–]FlightRisk 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        hahaha fuck off. I think its pretty obvious what happened here.

        [–]konoplya 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        its called a question so yeah, go fuck yourself

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

        Something is up...Usually, it's the pressure from outside forces. ADL, card processors directly or indirectly via the hosting company.

        I'd really like Magnora to say what happened because I'm looking at that sub and it's scientific level of examination of historic facts. No hate, not even much conjecture, no calls for violence and so on....

        [–]RuckFeddit 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah it has been a strange 24 hours, does seem like something happened recently.

        [–]konoplya 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

        is magnora the spez of saidit?

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

        I dunno what's up with him. Paranoia, legit fear, both mixed...It's not an easy task to accomplish, having a free speech forum in these times.

        [–]konoplya 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        i meant it that i have no idea who he is

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        https://youtu.be/KhrG2N2h1zs?t=1399

        He posted that himself, so I presume not something he wants hidden

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yup, make a Codoh.com holocaust revisionist sub. Call it /r/holocaustrevisionism and make it have Codoh.com rules and you'll have a ton of good revisionit posts. Hasbara loves to come in and post deragatory crap against all Jews to get it banned. They dis this to CoDoh which is why they ban anyone who uses ad hominems meaning that half of saodit would be banned by now.

        [–]CompleteDoubterII 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Have you seen the front page? It's full of posts portraying leftists in a negative light.

        [–]konoplya 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        i'm talking about quarantining subs

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Literally the quatentine has not been used for any subs.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Literally for one[citation needed] but there is also the shadow quarantine feature that hides subs from s/all . If u/magnora7 would honestly ask moderators to remove their subs from s/all for optics reasons together with the reason he feels they are not optical enough, I don’t think many would disagree.

        As it is, I have to guess why sfw pictures of beautiful White people in s/whitebeauty are being censored from s/all - I assume - against the owner’s will.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

        magnora had said he wants to make a new site that has censorship, looks like saidits days are numbered

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Maybe he should just get a Blog going. He is very well versed in major conspiracies and there he won't have to ask random users all the time "why are they pushing certain narrative" he doesn't prefer or what ever.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        It's become pretty apparent literal white supremacists are taking full advantage of the paradox of tolerance here.

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        It's become pretty apparent literal white supremacists homosexuals are taking full advantage of the paradox of tolerance here.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        reports: 1

        Oh no! I’m abusing the ziggurat by pointing out how the person calling people names is benefiting from the same “paradox of tolerance”.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Mostly Hasbara Zionists but so too white supremacists. Problem is you go unto this Holocaust Revisionist site: codoh.com look through their forums and what do you notice. Nobody is spewing hatred, nobody is spewing ad hominems, and overall, I must say, it is well moderated.

        As is this site. But that site will ban ANYONE ON THIS HOLOCAUST REVISIONIST site that spews racial hatred, meaning that Holocaust revisonists only want facts, they are not out to deny Jewish suffering or claim their race is better.

        [–]cryptEX 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Mark this day on the calendar.

        [–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        I don't know why I am now forced to tie an e-mail address to my account to view this sub. If it is a danger to the board, why do I have to risk exposure to see it?

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Which sub? I though saidit didn't have email sign up?

        [–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        https://imgur.com/a/TNKei7z

        This also might be something existing in the old Reddit code that hasn't been patched on Saidit yet.

        [–]bald-janitor 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

        s/incest

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        When your sub gets banned feel free to report it here assuming you can still post. This is not a place to find fellow degenerates. Stop spamming.

        [–]bald-janitor 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

        Hmph

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Ahhhhhhh, /u/HOLOHOAX alone is a misnomer. Call it something better than this, like what codoh.com does.

        It's called Holocaust revisionism.