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[–]72ndGender 29 insightful - 22 fun29 insightful - 21 fun30 insightful - 22 fun -  (3 children)

Gee whiz guyz, what's with all these darn anti-semites all over this free speech platform. We really need to put a stop to those goys, I mean, guys, saying stuff about jewish people that I haven't personally approved of. What's that? It's a provable fact with information from public records and statistics?? Well even bringing it up is racist, which is hate speech, which factually causes violence! What's that? There is no proof that being able to say mean things causes violence, but that people that were heading towards violence are better off having an outlet than being suppressed, isolated, manipulated, and lied to?? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Speech IS violence though!!!

[–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 12 insightful - 13 fun12 insightful - 12 fun13 insightful - 13 fun -  (1 child)

We really need to put a stop to those goys, I mean, guys

Never gets old lmao

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I would be salty but this is actually hilarious.

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes? 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We really need to put a stop to those goys, I mean, guys

I haven't laughed out loud after reading a comment in such a long time. Thanks for the laugh.

[–]book-of-saturday 23 insightful - 9 fun23 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

lol spot on.

"I think I like this place, but there are too many racists.. what are WE going to do about it?"

[–]bobbobbybob 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This sums up the last few weeks of saidit

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    [–]scrubking 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

    It's the fact that these people are unhinged and have to spam that crap all day in every sub no matter what it's about. It's like Reddit where you can't go to a food sub without hearing leftist BS spewed at you.

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      [–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

      and before you know it, they're just calling you a jew.

      Lol that exact shit happened to me

      [–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

      You are such a fucking baby, it's unbelievable.

      [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

      It's actually FediNetizen. I'm sure you'll get it right next week!

      [–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

      Well, I updated the sub but I can't change the name of the subreddit. "Fednetizen" really rolled off the tounge more. Oh well. You're still a raging homo

      [–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

      You know if you really don't like someone there's a block button available now, right?

      [–]america_first_1776 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

      Don't care. Didn't ask. Plus, you're gay.

      [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Can you please stop dragging discusson down the pyramid of debate. And creating a whole sub just to attack one user doesn't exactly show good faith. Please stop attacking other users, and stop dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate. If you hate someone, block or ignore them please.

      [–]TheBeefBenson 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      Ad hominems are not supported under the pyramid of debate.

      And you're the ones claiming we're bringing the quality of the site down.

      If AHS are on this site then I suspect they'd be larping as white supremacists not as classical liberals. You see, they actually need to point to white supremacism on free speech sites in order to attempt to have them taken down.

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        [–]Zahn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Well you're parroting some curious tropes.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        You are all jews.

        [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        No I'm not I promise I'll post nose eventually goys...I mean guys.

        [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        I also have not seen any calls to censor antisemitism. It is surprising to me how many people latch onto that shit though. I'm no fan of religion but there is no denying this happened.

        Moo.

        [–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Keep looking, then. Feel free to look at my post history. I think I commented in one semi recently. Anyways, let's cheer up that link with one of the coolest theologians of the 20th century.

        [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        What am I looking for exactly?

        [–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Okay fine, here's a thread you can go look over. https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/5ia6/whats_with_all_the_antijewish_stuff_on_this_site/

        [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I saw that when it was originally posted. What are you getting at?

        [–]zyxzevn🐈‍⬛ 15 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

        "Because we HATE other ideas..
        And we HATE white people..
        We HATE science that does not fit our narrative.
        We must ERASE them all."

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah man. This is a a war we both fight but from the right side. Approved.

        [–][deleted] 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

        I am continuously and immensely amused by both the inability of any of you to understand what "concern trolling" actually is, as well as your adoption of far-left tactics to quell criticism. In actual fact, "concern trolling" is a concept that only covers moralizing over actions of a political group in order to cause infighting and fracturing. This is not a political group. In fact no website focused on commentary or discussion, such as this one, has any goal or rallying point it need get behind. This is not owned by a cooperative or council. You types reveal what you truly want just like the far left does by the rhetoric you employ. Namely, conveniently dismissing criticism by applying sophistry.

        Formally speaking, this is an appeal to motive fallacy. Don't think nobody sees your propaganda for what it is.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

        This comment is a lot of noise.

        People give political opinions here so even though it is a website the definition can be easily applied. I don't think nitpicking is necessary.

        On a side note, this is why I find it hard to read, comprehend, understand opinions given by leftists. It is a long, meaningless post having swathes of nothingness, is very confusing, and is very condescending and passively aggressive, smug and sarcastic, having many a times CAPS BOLD ITALICS BOLD ITALICS fonts as though that is going to convince me anything. It's always victimising someone and demonising someone else. Very distracting to read. Now you may not be a leftist but your comment is an excellent example of a typical leftist comment.

        I could meticulously deconstruct this comment but honestly this much is enough.

        [–]whereswhat 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

        this is why I find it hard to read, comprehend, understand opinions given by leftists

        No, it's because you are looking for confirmation of your own beliefs. The irony of your username and the fact that you can't focus all the way through a comment of an opposing view is hilarious.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

        I just wrote why I can't focus on reading comments by leftists (or anyone really, long as they follow that format), perhaps you should try to focus more on comments my friend. Besides If I couldn't take an opposing opinion why would I even bother trying to read one in the first place.

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        Saying you won't bother to read the comment that you can't understand as a sign of your willingness to engage with a different POV while signalling condescension is a lot of empty work.

        Maybe you'd just be better off explaining why being prejudiced works for you. Get a soapbox and take advantage of that free speech bruh.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Believe what you want to man. I cannot change your thoughts. Trust me I have read material written in a normal way for once, from the opposing party, which I actually wanted to read and actually understood. Not some Bardfinn level propaganda crap.

        As for the original comment, he could've gone 'that's preposterous. Concern trolling only applies to political groups. This is not a political group, you are wrong.' It would've conveyed the exact same amount of information and some condescension in very less words. Would've made sense instead of the end having nothing to do with the beginning of the comment.

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

        So instead of replying with anything like an argument, you decided to break the website guidelines and offer insults. I explain you do not know what concern trolling refers to, as well as the fact this is not a political group or activist group to which concern trolling would even apply. Rather than concede or offer refutation, you reply with a dismissal and a character assassination of "leftist opinions". I would assert this is because you actually don't have an argument, and caught with your pants down you're now scrambling to divert.

        I refer you to this in particular: "People who are consistently dragging discussion down to lower levels of the pyramid are not welcome here"

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        People give political opinions here so even though it is a website the definition can be easily applied. I don't think nitpicking is necessary.

        The argument is right there my friend. Just becasue i didn't write an entire manifesto regarding the definition does not mean I have no arguments. As far as insulting goes, I never called you a fag as I normally do to insult someone. I told you your comment is very distracting to read with all the sarcastic condescendation in there.

        Also:

        you types truly reveal yada yada

        pyramid of debate REEEEEE

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

        This is not an activist or organized group. "Concern trolling" is a lefty concept pertaining to criticism, allegedly dishonest criticism, of the actions of a group. Does not apply here, and generally constitutes an appeal to motivation fallacy in either case. In other words, it is a blatant dismissal of criticism on the basis of mind reading. It's a fallacy. It is not a legitimate argument nor a valid retort. Secondly, my comment pointedly criticizes your use of dismissal for cohesion as the propaganda it truly is. That is also criticism. Not "distraction".

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        Ok first of all please tell me where you got your definition of concern trolling. I cannot find it. If you tell me what website you find credible (because I know if I cite any website you'll probably discredit the website. this is not an insult; if I cite urban dictionary you'd actually be right) and let me know the definition given on it perhaps we can move further. A quick search reveals that most websites don't have very strict definitions of 'group' 'ideology' etc. It could very well be LARPing as someone with a different opinion on a website. It could be me going 'hey i'm an american and unless we stop buying guns people are going to think we're morons'. these people just went 'hey i'm a saiditter and unless we stop getting certain opinions on the front page people are going to think we're all anti semites'. See the similarity?

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the troll claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt within the group often by appealing to outrage culture.[53] This is a particular case of sockpuppeting and safe-baiting.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        thank you. It does say "web forums" and the people we're referring to, show 'concerns' about how the website is going to look bad while acting like a good faith user of this website. So really, man, I don't see anything wrong with calling them concern trolls.

        "devoted to its declared point of view" you say? Well I do think that the point of view here is freedom to express your own batsoup crazy opinions. Who cares how bad it makes the website look.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        Did you miss the part where I pointed out this is fundamentally an appeal to motive fallacy? You are not a mind reader. Asserting this is fundamentally a diverting fallacy to subvert an argument or criticism instead of address it. You do not know my motives, or goals, nor can you lay claim to "goals" of a "group" as vague as a web forum. Goals, actions, and opinions, are more relevant to political action or activist organizations.

        Point is, claiming "concern trolling" is exactly that kind of noise and diversion you alleged my criticizing your assertion of it was. The fucking irony.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        Well my man, I think what you're trying to say is that I'm dismissing criticism by calling it concern trolling. Really, unless we have rock solid proof of them being/not being bad faith users I really cannot say anything about this. Either way, my point is that no one can say 'i don't like this opinion, hes an idiot' and expect to be taken seriously on a free speech website.

        nor can you lay claim to "goals" of a "group" as vague as a web forum

        sorry man, but I can.

        [–]scrubking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Brandolini's Law

        [–]bald-janitor 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

        Ok Newton

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I direct you to the following: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/37r/welcome_to_saiditnet/

        Specifically, "People who are consistently dragging discussion down to lower levels of the pyramid are not welcome here. "

        [–]C3P0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        concern... trolling... I am not up on all the new terminology. Did Webster state that it could only be applied to political groups?

        [–]Entropick 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        I'm not left or right, I want to see all people do as well as they are able.

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        ^

        [–]IAmSatan 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

        And behind them stands a neoliberal with puppet strings.

        [–]King_Brutus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

        This happened a ton in the right wing subs on Reddit and was super annoying. It's refreshing having more of a right leaning site but I still want to focus on ideas no matter the leaning.

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        Oh the right has ideas now? Fascinating...

        [–]King_Brutus 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

        Ooga booga right wing bad ooga booga

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Not bad, just intellectually bankrupt. Ty for proving my point captain caveman :)

        [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Saying you won't bother to read the comment that you can't understand as a sign of your willingness to engage with a different POV while signalling condescension is a lot of empty work.

        Try reading the comment and engaging with a different POV instead of signalling condescension and doing a lot of empty work, as per your own advice

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm waiting for the ideas so I can respond. Yeah this is a challenge. Discrediting conservatism is like shooting fish in a barrel. Bring it.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm not advocating for total censorship. Just make sure no one else sees their facts and research. That way, they are speaking fReElY into the void. kappa

        [–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        Join me in my quest to point out these shapeshifting liars at s/FuckFednetizen.

        [–]bald-janitor 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        u/breadman

        [–]FediNetizen 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

        The meme is funny, but inaccurate. Claiming the problem is with "Right Wingers" is a strawman. The problem is with racist shit, and in no way does it make you a marxist, or even a lefty, to see someone say "blacks aren't capable of leadership or governance" and think that some users have some real issues.

        [–]whereswhat 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        The problem is with racist shit

        Yes, but I would argue the larger problem is tribalism. Racism is only one way tribalism manifests itself.

        [–]FediNetizen 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Tribalism is a problem. It's also annoying when you browse reddit's /r/politics and see nothing but neolib bullshit, and see comments about what terrible human beings Trump supporters are. That being said, racism is probably the most off-putting manifestation of it.

        [–]whereswhat 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Thank you for not being insane.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        what's wrong with a tribe

        [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        https://paanluelwel.com/2019/01/17/why-toxic-tribalism-is-destroying-our-society-and-what-to-do-about-it/

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism#Concept_evolution

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        opposite is globalism. Which must be destroyed. I get the problem but it is not tribalism it is the toxic tribalism here. We must get rid of immigrants and if anyone don't like america they can leave.

        [–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        The dedication you have for your tribe (america) is enabling you to feel opposed to an entire group of people. Remember, america is a nation of immigrants and their descendants.

        There is no destroying globalism without destroying our ability to communicate using modern technology. Get off the internet if you wanna practice what you preach. Otherwise, open your mind. There are advantages and drawbacks to both globalism and tribalism. I agree that the challenges both bring are perilous. In the end, however, we are one species stuck on one rock hurdling around space. No matter where on the rock we live, our actions may affect all of us.

        [–]solder0 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Don't mind "right wingers", it's more like a whole bunch of neurotic people obsessed with jews and trannies.

        [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah there are people obsessed with those things, and then people obsessed with hating those things, and then the two sides fight, and it takes over saidit. I hate it. Propaganda vs anti-propaganda. Like can we just have normal discussions like normal people? Get tired of the two sides fighting and taking over every conversation and every forum. But perhaps this is their purpose.

        [–]AntiLowEffortHuman[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Can't argue with that. Personally I don't care for jews but yes I am obsessed with trannies. I fucking HATE some trannies. take Volkswagen's DQ200 for example. Shit has a very high failure rate.

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I like it. Maybe i steal some ideas from the "right" side of the political spectrum. Sadly there only seldom is smth. fresh but i'm really good at combing through bs .

        [–]King_Brutus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I need a smuggies replacement here STAT

        [–]veetnampho 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Yikes! Cool it with the racism comradrinos!

        [–]Breadman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Less concerned with this site being populated by deplorables, than the actual admin of the site being one.

        [–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        second definition of AHS on urban dictionary: american horror story. quite accurate. 'and i saw in the middle of the four beasts, behold, a white horse...' 'hear the trumpets hear the pipers, one hundred million angels singing' 'the wise man will bow down to the throne, and at his feet he'll cast his golden crown, when the man comes around.'