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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Entropy is not an "unbending law". When crystals form they go from disorder to order. The foundation of your argument is wrong.

[–]christnmusicreleases[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Tell me one person who hasn't died (in the duration of an expected human lifespan). The problem with evolutionists is everything is based on exceptions. That makes you a coincidence theorist.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So you think people dying somehow disproves that crystals form? How fucking nuts are you?

[–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No, I'm talking about entropy. Obviously you're hopelessly lost, so this is pearls to pigs. Go back to your delusional lifestyle.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What part of crystals forming proves that entropy is not a "unbending law" don't you understand?

And if people dying is entropy then people being born is obviously the opposite of entropy. How do you think plants can take a slurry of nutrients and turn them into ordered molecules like sugar? Are plants God?

[–]HegeMoney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So far, Entropy appears to be an "unbending law".

Certain crystal formations may occur at a "lower state" but not necessarily.

Generally crystal formation requires a steady state environment and time (depending upon the composition of the crystalline structure) for the molecules to arrange themselves.

Some crystals are at a higher states, but will eventually deteriorate to a lower state (entropy).
Any crystal that can burn falls into this category (for example: sugar).
Crystalline sugar will be functionally eternal in our lifespans, assuming they are stored in a cool dry place (isolated from thermal cycling /chemical exposure). These are carbonaceous crystals.

Another variety of higher energy crystals can be found in metallic crystalline structures. Aluminium, iron, etc. These typically require energy to be added to form. Energy is added to the material to reverse oxidization ,or other non-metallic chemical bonds (oxidization, floridification, sulfurization, etc.).
Elemental forms of most metals aluminum, iron, magnesium, (most metals) are rare in nature.

Metallic crystals are typically higher energy states, as many can react with nonmetals.

Iron is in a higher energy state than rust.
Elemental Aluminum can be burned with oxidized iron, and tremendous amount of heat are produced (thermite).
Oxidized aluminium is at a much lower state of energy than most oxidized metals.

Diamonds are formed in a higher energy environment (pressure, temp), but they are elemental carbon, so they are already at a fairly low energy state.

Gold is probably fairly close to it's natural base level of entropy. I'm speculating, but it doesn't easily react.
Elemental gold has a crystalline structure.
Gold is kind of weird.

The places where life form are steady state energy regions near the triple point of water (for life as we know it AFAIK).

Other less discussed requirements are a thermal cycling (day and night) from planetary rotation.
This movement facilitates fluid currents (wind, water, etc.) so material mixing can occur.

Planets that are in synchronous rotation with their star will have less movement of material and transfers of energy (one hot side/cold side). Life there is plausible near the temp-transition regions. Who knows...?

Back to the subject at hand: there are problems with the current conception of evolution.

This doesn't disprove evolution.

The fact that children look similar to their parents is proof that some transferring of biological information is taking place.
Genes did not need to be discovered to find evidence for this.

Does that mean that humans are a static species of life?

Wolves were selected for compatibility with people and bred for millennia.

Dogs are the resulting product of that unnatural selection.

Dogs can still be bred with wolves, but they are socially and physiologically distinct.

Neanderthal were probably similarly distinct. Non-Africans have neanderthal genes (supposedly, but it seems reasonable).

All cats are in the same biological subset. Breeding tigers and lions can produce offspring (ligers), but it's my understanding that the offspring are sterile (for whatever reason).

There appears to be a verifiable point where differences in species subsets can become genetically incompatible.

Sterility of offspring is a reasonable threshold for differentiation of species, and allows for the eventual evolutionary subsets.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Whether someone is religious or not doesn't change the fact that evolution as it is generally taught has some major logical flaws.

https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/ten-major-flaws-of-evolution-a-refutation/

https://www.wired.com/2014/12/fantastically-wrong-thing-evolution-darwin-really-screwed/

https://evolutionnews.org/2012/07/what_are_the_to_1/

As a side note: Darwin had been corresponding with another scientist who turned over all his notes to Darwin, who then combined all of their writings and published it under his name. The other scientist was described as somewhat meek and one who shunned the limelight. This happens in science more often than we think.

Later: I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Richard Dawkins whose god is perhaps Darwin. I consider him a brilliant, bleeding butthole. I have seen him deliver a lecture in person and it did not change my opinion of him.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would pay about tree fiddy to watch you debate Richard Dawkins. He would eat you alive.

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am quite sure he would. As I said, he is brilliant but an asshole. I am not challenging him to a debate.

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you actually believe this, then you are an imbecile.

[–]christnmusicreleases[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, if you believe in Darwinian evolution, you are likely either an imbecile or just too brainwashed to see reality.

Most likely though you're just playing mind games with yourself.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for the salient argument. Your logic is so air tight there is no counterpoint to be made.

This one guy tried but I'm sure you will easily dismantle everything he has to say: https://youtu.be/uQ7GvwUsJ7w

[–]BestHuman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I began to doubt saiditor's intelligence.