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[–]duckduckgo 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

why dont you just dive thru the toilet seat of an outhouse? you can swim around in there for a few weeks. anything that you find down there is technically edible, so dig in.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Maybe I will.

[–]duckduckgo 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

or, you could go down to a slaughterhouse while dressed up as a cow and let them poke you with stun guns and then butcher you.

that oughtta keep you busy for a minute.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe I will.

And maybe I won't.

[–]duckduckgo 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

is it just me, or is there a chemistry building up between us?

i am going to be bold and bust a move by telling you that i enjoy old sci-fi movies and popcorn and long walks on the beach and in most cases i do not require much lubrication.

it has been a while since i felt loved like this.

your truly,

donald j frump.

FRUMP 2020

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, there's definitely chemistry. I do love you a lot, but I'm afraid while dressed as a cow last night, I found a cow I happened to fall in love with.

What are the chances?

[–]duckduckgo 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

i am not one to stand in between when you have obviously made that special connection.

where did you meet that cow? on tinder? i hate you.

donald j frumps

frumps 2020

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where did I meet the cow??

You’re the one who told me to go to the slaughter house dressed as a cow!! A farmer fucking tased me when I asked him “not to, bro” and told him it was “a misunderstanding”, and I woke up to a cow nursing me. We bonded that night.

When they took her to slaughter her that morning, was when the farmers saw I was wearing a costume and could see my face and let me out lol.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Something something ship of theseus.

I promise you, you won't care either way when you're dead.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was just joking, but I never heard of the "Ship of Theseus". Thank you for sharing!

[–]Intuit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Are you merely the matter that makes you up or the particular arrangement and dynamic nature of that arrangement?

[–]KennyLogins 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is fairly easy to answer. We are the arrangement. If we were the matter itself, unimpacted by arrangement, I could exist as a spherical cow of plasma. I could shapeshift and still be me, which of course, would be fucking awesome. But if I use a shotgun and rearrange my brain atoms to become wall art, "me" won't be around to appreciate the art.

[–]CarlDung 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

sometimes I don't feel like myself, so who and what I'm at those moments?🤔

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yourself, which is far beyond what you're aware of. You're at the helm of a very capable organism.

[–]KennyLogins 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

If you cut off your finger and bury it in a house plant, where your finger then becomes food for the plant, are you alive in the plant as well as in your own body? What if you don't even cut off your finger, what if you just count the millions of atoms you exhale in each cycle of your breath and pair them with the atoms shed from your skin, on a simple walk across your lawn, or a walk in a park. All of those atoms are being committed back to the environment, with some becoming food for the blades of grass. Are you alive in your body, and in each blade of grass?

Not all atoms from which we are made give us our sense of self. Only a small amount of the atoms that form our bodies exist in the central structure where consciousness occurs--our brain. Consciousness isn't found in any one of the individual atoms, but in the collective structures formed by those atoms. As these structures deteriorate, so does consciousness and thusly, sense of self.

Again, you (as in sense of self) are not the atoms, "you" are the result of structures created by atoms. No structure, no you. You will not live on as a tree because you become tree food. Your atoms, however, will persist for some time--think in frames of billions of universe life times.

In my opinion, instead of worrying about whether or not you will live on as a tree-being, make the most of this short time line where some atoms are currently arranged in a fashion that has produced Enza. I suggest you look at the people you love, the people you hate and realize they are all temporary formations--learn to love them more, or hate them less--whatever the case may be.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Great summary.

Without getting into woo shit, I'd add that our consciousness is not entirely in our brain. By that I mean that our nervous system is important to our states of mind, more than science currently acknowledges. Losing limbs, organ issues, etc can affect our moods and mind and balance.

[–]KennyLogins 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. I agree with your adding the importance of the nervous system.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I honestly wasn't worried about living on as a tree-being, I was just wondering if I would still technically exist (in some physical-fashion, not my consciousness), if a single molecule of it is embedded into the genetic code of the tree.

As per your example, if I cut off my finger and a plant happens to absorb my molecules, then my "physical-being" technically is in two places at one time. Just the majority of it, and my consciousness, isn't in the house plant.

[–]KennyLogins 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a great question, I'm glad you posted it--and it's such a weird answer. Everything atom that makes you or I, was something else at one point. All of the information that is you and I, will become many other things--with the cycle repeating over and over.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You need not cut off a finger. Take a dump. Lament the loss. Get over it. Move on. Remain dexterous.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fun fact: If you look at atoms and molecules through a "microscope" 99.9 % of the "occupied" space is empty.

Electromagnetic forces mainly deny us reaching through them. But no matter if gold or shit. On an anström level (0.1 nm) the space for most parts is "empty" either way.

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[–]MisandryFTW 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There is currently no scientific evidence that consciousness as we know it extends past death or evolves into something else, however pretty much all religions believe it does. It's up to you to figure out what you believe. Personally I believe I was made in the center of a star, that my molecules have been many things before me and will be many things after but that my consciousness ends with my death.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

It says a lot about where we are right now that becoming plant food is seen as a more logical way of living on than passing either your DNA or your ideas on.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

than passing either your DNA

Hey, I take my weekly trips to the sperm bank and get paid for it, too. I resent that. I like to think of myself as Genghis Khan. I don't know if it was ethical, but I like to think I have a pretty cute face and I lied about all the anxiety and depression I feel to make it seem like I'm the perfect candidate. I hope lots of lonely woman choose my DNA!!!

I was just wondering if one of my molecules would exist in the tree is all.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You should definitely be doing this. In the UK we actually have a shortage of sperm donors apparently because blokes are scared of the kid finding them when they get to 18. I don't see the down side myself, let someone else do all the hard work and enjoy the finished product.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good point, though I don't think it's either/or.

[–]Fetus_inhaler 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I would just do this new “alkaline hydrosis” or whatever, where they get all this pressurized, boiling water that gets all your flesh away, then just a skeleton is left. Idk what to with my skeleton after that. Probably put it inside of a closet where I lived to scare some new inhabitants, but that’s a maybe.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I've always wanted to donate my skeleton to someone who might appreciate it, artfully.

NOT donate it to "science" (for some students to mock and play with).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I’d be interested in receiving the honorable donation of your skeleton (you know id appreciate and take good care of you, no weird stuff, mockery, playing with OR even dirt, that’s right buddy you’re getting a glass case, maybe I’ll embed it in my future dining room walls?)!

So you down?

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You can have it. I won't be needing it. I don't care about weird stuff, mockery, or whatever. I'll be past all that.

I think bones are neat, not to be feared or grim. Everything dies and has remains. Might as well make use of them, whether you consider them a curiosity or make my skull an ashtray or grind me up as an aphrodisiac.

You might need to get a license.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

How about I get the license, I find some streaming service that will allow us (you) on it, and I create the world’s first 24/7, 365 “Memento Mori” stream™ dedicated to you and remembering your existence, and it will also serve as a reminder that we will all return to the ground one day, so we should enjoy the time we have remaining? Bring back the old tradition, just digitally? And we can make all/any donations go to a charity of your choice!

This joke is getting really morbid.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not joking.

I don't need a memorial or people to remember me. I might hope that if I can get my shit together and finish my story, then people might take note of that - but that's it.

My bones are my bones. They aren't me or my personality or ideas.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You would mostly be eaten by bacteria.

[–]Callmesavior 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ni,shits return to shits as bible says.

[–]wuzizname 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Youd be tree food the same way you’re not the bull even though you eat it’s flesh.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Just tree food.

You are not you. We're all lots of water and lots of bacteria and stuff. We are all tubes for food to go in one end and come out the other. Much of what we were goes out that way and out other ways. We are not us.

We are a bio-computer. Our bodies and minds are a process.

When it's over, it's over, and that process melts back into the Universe to be forgotten like ripples on a pond.

I also used to dwell on an eco-friendly end. More importantly is an eco-friendly lifestyle.

[–]BTCnasty9 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

We’re all fucking stardust mannnnn... think about that next time you bust a nut

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

“If i* arranged it”

[–]noseburp 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Donate your organs

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's a good idea. Then I'll be inside many people at once. I like the way you think!

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