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[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

survivors of that war generation have nothing but contempt for his government.

As do most survivors of US 20th century wars. Thanks.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Slight issue.

Nazi ideology was very much based on the fact Britain had conquer half the world and Germans saw themselves as the same race as the British. They certainly weren't basing the idea of Aryan supremacy on Germany's success.

While they saw Eastern slavs as subhuman not so much those to the south of them. And they certainly also claimed links to Roman and Greek excellence in classical times, people who had closer links to slavs than Germans.

I think people don't realise how different the various groups of Europeans looked from each other before mass media meant certain looks became fashionable ever where. People don't realise this very much can effect physical features expressed in a population. I have a photo of my Nan's class at school which was 50% Jewish immigrants and they could very well look like Indian kids to modern eyes. It was very easy for people back then to tell the difference between ethnicities and to not view fellow white Europeans as the same race.

[–]cisheteroscum[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While they saw Eastern slavs as subhuman not so much those to the south of them.

Yeah they treated for instance the Czechs and Croats much better. The Nazis actual views on Slavs were more complicated than I understood when i wrote this initially - but this is all sort of tangential to the main point which is that The Allies did not have anything in common ideologically with the modern left and would not agree with them on their lunacies regarding race/gender/etc.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nazis were not white supremacists. The Nazis were German supremacists

Oh yes they were white supremacists. If Nazis were not white supremacists they would have never seized property of German citizens who were Jewish. They would have never killed upwards of 180,000 German Jews just because they were Jewish and not seen as white.

TL;DR, the left literally has to rewrite history to pretend the Allied powers agree with them, and they do so shamelessly

Americans rewrite history all the time. Americans like to act like they're the reason the Nazis got their asses kicked in World War II. In reality, Russia is the reason why the Nazis got their asses kicked and lost the war.

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[–]cisheteroscum[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Shalom, Jew

Oh yes they were white supremacists

Actually over time Ive come to kind of agree with this - but not for the reasons you want me to

If Nazis were not white supremacists they would have never seized property of German citizens who were Jewish

Does not follow

They would have never killed upwards of 180,000 German Jews just because they were Jewish and not seen as white.

They were seen as not German. Because they werent. And were seen as potentially aiding the enemy (international jewry) just as Japanese were in the United States

Americans like to act like they're the reason the Nazis got their asses kicked in World War II.

They are. Axis had a better K/D ratio tho

In reality, Russia is the reason

The US provided the USSR with most of its war materiel before they officilly entered it

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They are. Axis had a better K/D ratio tho

The Germans starved 3 million Russia POWs to death. Are they included in that ratio? Because if one side is killing POW and the other side isn't then of course the ratio will be skewed.

[–]cisheteroscum[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Are they included in that ratio?

The point I was going for is that the Nazis didnt really "get their asses kicked" they had practically all of continental Europe and North Africa in 1941-42. If they hadnt gone to war with the USSR or managed to get Britain to agree to peace (which they tried to do) who knows what would have happened

Germans starved 3 million Russia POWs to death.

I doubt that the Germans actually intentionally starved 3 million POWs to death (supply lines got destroyed and there were a lot of food shortages) but i dont care to rebuke this claim. All sides committed horrible atrocities in WWII. It was an unnecesary war that millions of white people died in and ultimately no white people benefitted from

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, apparently the Germans were quite afraid of the Russians who were berserkers in the best sense of the word, on our side. Too bad the governments have turned these two peoples against each other.