Amazon is rolling out ‘paying with your palm’…Mark of the Beast? No, it's just convenience, comrade!

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Pulling out a credit card is extremely easy. This is a solution looking for a problem. They even have tiny credit cards you can clip to your keys. The scanner will get dirty and not be reliable because it is an upward facing optical lense.

It is overengineered. It makes it hard to choose which account you want to use. There are simply better ways.

Personally I like the rubber wristbands that waterparks have which can let you in your room and be used to buy food and rent equipment.

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    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    From a control perspective cash is, and will always be, king. But this is being sold as a convenience. The road to tyranny is paved with conveniences. The argument of this post is that this is a stepping stone. I don't think it is because it is not convenient.

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's convenient because you can go shopping with nothing in your pocket. For the uber-lazy/absent-minded, this is a help.

    [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Phones are fairly pointless as well. Just another point of failure waiting to be exploited. Carry around your CC card in case your phone isn't working? Needs an update? Battery low? Only to have the same CC number on the phone you carry in your wallet? Why?

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    I agree this sort of thing is just marketing and unlikely to have real world applications.

    More likely most people will simply use something like apple pay or a credit card.

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    People will clamor for the mark when it comes, and deride those who refuse to take it. They're gonna LOVE it.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    You gonna back that up with a biblical reference? Because afaik there isn't one.

    Revelation 22:18

    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You act like people still use gold coins or smth when there's pay-with-your-phone available. People will line up to get chipped.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Microchips cannot be properly described as a "mark" either. But the distinction is somewhat irrelevant.

    The mark of the beast in revelation is given to those who worship the beast. The restriction on commerce is an aside to that describing a repressive religious cult.

    It is very likely a reference to Nero.

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    or be surprised when you get rejected by God for a convenient method of identification and payment, that's up to you

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You can continue to spread heretical nonsense but if God didn't damn eve for eating the apple he certainly won't damn her for signing up for apple pay.

    [–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Pretty sure that the palm isn't the back of the hand or the forehead.

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It seems increasingly likely to be a biometric signature. The palm of the hand can be changed and/or rendered unreadable by various methods but the back of the hand is gonna have the same blood vessel pattern as long as you have the hand. Ditto the forehead.

    [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/mark-of-the-beast/

    Dea 59; Herodotus 2.113). Third Maccabees 2:29 records an incident in which Jews were branded by Ptolemy Philopator I (217 b.c.) with the Greek religious Dionysian ivy-leaf symbol. The "mark" on Cain in Genesis 4:15 is rendered by semeion [shmei'on] in the Septuagint, the term for "sign." Paul's reference to his bearing in his body the "marks" of Jesus ( Gal 6:17 ) utilizes stigma [stivgma], not charagma [cavragma].

    The contextual significance of marking those who worship the beast may be accounted for by noting how this motif answers to the seal on the foreheads of those who worship the Lamb ( Rev 7:3 ; 14:1 ). This contrast is particularly noted in 20:4, where those who are martyred for the Lamb are resurrected to reign with Christ. The mark and seal well image the two earthly groups who dominate the narrative.

    [–]aaarrgh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    people, especially young people, are like that, they go along which each 'innovation'. They think it's 'cool', and have no further objections. The future for the elite looks bright

    [–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Calling barcodes on groceries the mark of the beast is already pretty dumb, but how can you justify extending that label to biometrics where there is no mark or chip and it's literally just recognizing inherent characteristics of individual people?

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No comrade, as I said, this isn't it. Also "the slippery slope" is a fallacy.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Kinda hard to argue something is the mark of the beast when there is no mark.

    This has been a "boy who cried wolf" scenario for a very long time.

    [–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, as I say. This is simply for convenience. Nobody takes the mark seriously, comrade.