Something no one wants to think about

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That was amazing. I’ll contemplate it all day. A lot of people would probably kill themselves if they knew this was the outcome.

Thanks for sharing twice. I saw it in a post above and skipped it. But seeing it twice, I guess I was like”well this guys persistent” and I read it again. I really enjoyed that story.

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

There's a number of things I find extremely disturbing about it:

  • I really feel like I myself have been in this situation before. More than once. Other NDE stories have not struck me with the same sense of familiarity. It's like some deeply repressed memory I'm on the verge of remembering but can't quite get. And there's a sense that it happened a very long time ago, longer than I've been around.

  • He keeps emphasizing how indifferent and mechanical this thing is. Different people compare it to different things in our world, and some have even called it "the machine". As disturbing as it is, I'm not too surprised. I've been suspicious about "the matrix" for a couple of years now, after I eventually realized this whole world and existence just doesn't add up. There's something very off about it, and this explanation for some reason really resonates with my gut feelings.

  • Mentioning things like this makes a lot of people seethe with rage. Even people who normally don't act like that, for no reason I can see this kind of subject really sets them off. I've had people tell me, even people who normally like me, that they have never been so angry at someone, or even imagined that level of anger to be possible...when all I did was mention this or something like it. It's like I'm triggering some repressed memory or deeply buried emotion of theirs.

  • There's evidence for this sort of structure in the physical world. The big bang theory makes no sense because it says a bunch of atoms somehow just popped into existence one day, and eventually exploded into the universe. If people think creationism is laughable, this is peak comedy. But what if it's actually the center of this "wheel" thing? And, apparently, if you reach the edge of the universe, you wrap to the other side; technically you are going into the nextdoor parallel universe. Universes all next to each other like that sounds an awful lot like these waterwheel paddles.

If this is true--and I think there's an extremely high likelihood that it is--then I am correct about the evil hellish nature of the world, something everyone else goes to absurd lengths to deny. Whatever this thing is, it feels EVIL on a nightmarish and hellish level, and it does act evil. I don't know if the actual wheel thing itself is malevolent, if all it does is offer infinite possibilities. But that "sorting" process is definitely demonic, that I have almost no doubt about. It doesn't seem like it should even be possible to capture a basically omniscient being like that. I'm not sure why they do it, whoever it is.

Apparently the CIA is investigating this concept for the purposes of time travel. The document is not classified and I saw it, so this isn't mere speculation. The CIA actually researches a lot of really weird stuff. I don't think they're in on anything though, or they wouldn't release it all to the public.

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I find this topic super interesting. After life, or current life, or whatever.

But, they say angles are not able to be understood, they are something we can’t understand. The guy said a water wheel is the best way for him to explain it.

He also said he knew everything at the time, and that he was one with everything, or something like that(?). We are all actually one consciousness.

Maybe we are something, inhabiting a meat suit, but we exist outside of time. We’re just chilling in these meat suits. I dunno.

I’m not sure why this would make people angry, but I’ll try bringing it up.

But also, it would be kind of cool if we all lived forever, right? No?

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We do live forever and it's hell. Stop believing all the lies. The world is crafted to make us outright worship it like it's the most divine thing ever. This is obviously a very bad, hellish place, and yet everyone is tricked into thinking they want to be here as long as possible! Once is already too much! Clearly it's some sort of simulation and we don't actually want to be here.

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I like food.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well you can have all the food you want if we ever make it out of here. And so much more.

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Okay. That sounds nice.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I just made a shocking discovery. Keep an eye out for a new post. I'm waiting because I want to post it when people will actually see it.

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Okay. Looking. All I see is a trump post.

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/ajqp/what_the_matrix_looks_like_a_chilling_4d_view_of/

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

reincarnation (ie back to our Earth-ly world)... is the real hell.

 
IF reincarnation were real ie everyone gets reincarnated
THEN whether reincarnation is 'hell', or 'heaven',
would depend on:

  1. whether the world one is reincarnated into is 'hell' or 'heaven'
  2. what everyone makes & keeps the world to be i.e.:

IF SO, THEN this is what everything boils down to

and the conversation everyone should be engaging in:

  • Have we ourselves shunned usurpation:

    • in our own mind? (i.e. recognized it as evil)
    • in our aspirations & conversations?
    • in our values & actions?

  • Are we helping others recognize the need for usurper-freeDom?

  • Are we working to build/sustain usurper-free Dom with others?

  • Is there room for improvement?
     

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reincarnation even into literal heaven is still slavery.

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Matthew 7:21-23
 

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I have no idea what you're trying to say here. The eastern religions would agree with you that endless cycle of reincarnation is suffering. But that presumes that you only reincarnate on this planet, when there are billions of others in the known universe. Not all solar systems have the same principles, and not all planets are as hard as this one.

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I'll pass, thanks.

      [–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Regardless of how good your incarnation is, it's still a mind prison. Something has seized your mind somehow and is forcing dreams upon you and prohibiting yours. If your jail cell is like a palace, you're still trapped. If you live like a king on some other planet, everything you do and experience is still controlled by them. You can embrace it only if you've forgotten that this is wrong. I haven't been able to remember, but I have figured it out once again. The very fact that they would capture you like this, no matter how well they treat you, is already great evil. Don't succumb to the brainwashing; that is indeed hard, because the whole world is set up to propagate it.