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[–]BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

I know what I'm looking at...

But I'm not sure I know what I'm supposed to be seeing.

[–]popcorn[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

I will tell you what you're looking at. You are looking at what happens when the population is way overgrown and there isn't enough resources for everyone to eat food and drink water and the economies are crumbling.

Corruption and perversion have become the normal state of things. Soon they will have permission to f*** your children. Soon you will see 40 year old men walking around with 10 year old children on a date.

Soon you will see people engaging in cannibalism because they are hungry and they will drink people's blood to quench their thirst.

The only real solution to the current problems of this world are a world war where 6 billion people are exterminated.

Welcome to the new Holocaust.

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are looking at what happens when the population is way overgrown and there isn't enough resources for everyone to eat food and drink water and the economies are crumbling.

This guy's overweight, so I'm not looking at that.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Corruption and perversion have become the normal state of things. Soon they will have permission to f*** your children. Soon you will see 40 year old men walking around with 10 year old children on a date.

Ahh, the old christian argument. Don't look at us molesting your children:

Putnam County youth pastor, teacher arrested on child porn charges

Plea deal likely for former Plover youth pastor accused of child sexual assault

Former Youth Pastor Arrested for Child Molestation Charges

High school pastor accused of being in romantic relationship with student in Okeechobee

There's a group of people that we can drum up some hatred of in order to cloud the issue!

Keep away from kids, you creep.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Whataboutery.

Also you are yourself trying to drum up hatred towards a different group.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is not whataboutery.

The post has nothing to do with "Soon they will have permission to f*** your children." Being trans is not related to paedophilia. Popcorn is creating fear for your children out of absolutely nothing.

I'm merely pointing out the most likely reason why.

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    [–]popcorn[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I find it interesting that so many people insist on being called by their newly invented pronouns, but when I have made it very clear that my name is Edward absolutely nobody pretty much calls me Edward they call me Ed they call me Eddie or any other silly variation of Edward they can think of.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Is that right?

    I'm less aware of hatred of other amongst practising Jewish people, because I've only met a couple, and they don't seem that hateful.

    But Jesus said nothing about gays or trans people, so I suppose they've got pretty much exactly the same basis, so it's unsurprising that some of them have come up with the same response.

    Although to be fair, "Edward" isn't a very Jewish name. It's Anglo-Saxon in origin. The practising Jews I've met are called "David".

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

    Seeing corruption and perversion in our current society is hardly the solo realm of the Christian. Aren't both groups terrible?

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    Being trans is not related to "Soon they will have permission to f*** your children."

    Being christian is.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    Trans isn't real. There is a boundary violating political movement targeting children using sex asking us to believe that children can consent to experimental surgery. If children can consent to changing sex, they can consent to having sex. There are literally people trying to rebrand pedophilia as innate and something to pity the perv about. Why do you so deny that society is largely pushing sexual boundaries with children?

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

    Trans isn't real.

    What?

    The American psychiatric association, which publishes the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, seem to think it exists.

    What's your expertise?

    There is a boundary violating political movement targeting children using sex asking us to believe that children can consent to experimental surgery.

    Woah. You might need to lay off the cool aid there, dwo.

    What "experimental surgery" are we talking about here?

    If children can consent to changing sex, they can consent to having sex.

    Sounds plausible, because both phrases involve the similar words like "consent to" and "sex". But if you think about it, the word "sex" isn't the same in those phrases. "Changing sex" is about gender and "having sex" is about the sex act. The reason that a child can't consent to sex is because it interferes with their psychological development around sex, and we know from experience this doesn't have good outcomes for the child.

    The reason that a sufferer of gender dysphoria might want to dress as and present as the other gender is that it does have good outcomes for the child, where the diagnosis is correct.

    There are literally people trying to rebrand pedophilia as innate and something to pity the perv about.

    In psychology pedophillia is a paraphillic disorder. It is a technical use of the term, not a rebranding to discuss this separately from the act of child rape.

    Importantly gender dysphoria is not pedophillia, and gender dysphoria is not related to child rape. People pushing that it is are generally conservative Christians looking for any abnormality to hate. Most people don't care if someone want to present as any gender. Ironically there is evidence that Christianity is related to child rape.

    Why do you so deny that society is largely pushing sexual boundaries with children?

    I'm not pushing anything of the sort. The OP was about a trans person. The claim that this has anything to do with sexual boundaries and children is christian hate.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    Oh, a political body which changes it's diagnostic manual depending on advocacy! It must be truth! That's why so many things that were in number one are still the same names and criteria in number five. Super excited for the new release to learn what new behaviors we can label as a disease (just like real doctors!)

    Again, trans isn't real. Transgenderism is a fashion trend, it is a religion, it is a sexual perversion or it is the same body hatred as any other self-hating mental disorder, whose treatment is to come back to reality, not to claim innate gender soul and force everyone to submit to your version of yourself.

    Experimental surgery is cutting the breasts off minor girls going through the same puberty distress generations of women have gone through without removing their breasts. Suzie Green had her son castrated in Thailand at 16. Jazz is on his fourth surgery to repair the damage?

    I didn't say gender dysphoria is pedophilia - luckily you do not have to have gender dysphoria to be trans. Trans does not equal gender dysphoria, bigot!

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Oh, a political body which changes it's diagnostic manual depending on advocacy!

    You're mistaken about that. It's a professional organization of psychiatrists in the US.

    It must be truth!

    The DSM is used the world over. It's a pretty good indication of what exists.

    Certainly much better than your own unsupported opinion.

    Again, trans isn't real.

    Again, what's your experise?

    The American psychiatric association, which publishes the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, seem to think it exists.

    Experimental surgery is cutting the breasts off minor girls going through the same puberty distress generations of women have gone through without removing their breasts.

    Rarely done in minors.

    Patients under 18 years of age may be candidates for gender-affirming mastectomy if the patient, their legal guardians and/or parents, their therapist and their care team believe that delaying surgery until the age of maturity (18) would result in patient harm. - https://www.plasticsurgery.org/for-medical-professionals/publications/plastic-surgery-resident/news/inservice-insights-gender-affirming-mastectomy

    Suzie Green had her son castrated in Thailand at 16.

    By all accounts Jackie is much happier now post surgery. It looks like Suzie had the correct diagnosis.

    Jazz is on his fourth surgery to repair the damage?

    Tom Cruise would have gone under the plastic surgeon's knife a lot more than four times.

    I didn't say gender dysphoria is pedophilia

    Being trans isn't related to "Soon they will have permission to f*** your children."

    luckily you do not have to have gender dysphoria to be trans.

    Trans is a less technical term. If they don't have gender dysphoria, they wouldn't seek gender reassignment surgery, so none of your comments are relevant in that case.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    Tom Cruise would have gone under the plastic surgeon's knife a lot more than four times.

    Getting your nose tweaked is a lot different from having to get your surgically reconstructed genitals repaired because they split at the seams because puberty blockers prevented you from growing enough tissue for the surgery you wanted.

    Trying to sit down or urinate without pain, with sex obviously being out of the question. But luckily puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones have made Jazz unable to experience sexual arousal whatsoever, so who's to say whether it's the surgery or the hormones, and who cares, right? Let's just keep doing it to every little gay boy who wants to wear a dress and has dysphoria because he's gay.

    As if there's anyone on planet earth who has never once considered suicide.

    Gender dysphoria usually resolves itself on its own and the kids grow up to be gay or dykes.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    The reason that a child can't consent to sex is because it interferes with their psychological development around sex

    Psychological development aside, there isn't enough data to say how early transitioning affects children's physical development, so we can't truly understand the risks.

    Surprisingly, they have not even tried rat studies in which they block the rat's puberty and supplement cross-sex hormones, then castrate/spay. I'd like to see some data about the neurological effects, along with the effects on the entire body (are they more prone to other diseases? are they cognitively affected?).

    I did see a study where they had rats on lupron for their entire lives, but they studied only whether they were more likely to act more similarly to control rats of the same sex in certain situations.

    An adulthood transition is much easier to stop or reverse. I don't understand why transitioning minors is the hill so many liberals want to die on.

    The reason that a sufferer of gender dysphoria might want to dress as and present as the other gender is that it does have good outcomes for the child, where the diagnosis is correct.

    And further, why can't a parent just let a kid dress masculine/feminine and get a masculine haircut or grow out their hair? How is that considered a step towards transitioning? Plenty of parents of butch dykes have been letting their kids do that and they end up well-adjusted. It's less common for parents to allow their male kids to do the same, but it would allow the child to feel more comfortable if they really want. It seems that "gender non-conformity" is only allowed in the context of transitioning now, and any "gender non-conformity" is considered the first step to transitioning.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Surprisingly, they have not even tried rat studies in which they block the rat's puberty and supplement cross-sex hormones, then castrate/spay.

    Not a very good model for the surgery that teens with gender dysphoria would be considering. Did you mean block the rat's puberty and supplement cross-sex hormones, then implant breasts/perform mastectomy?

    I'd like to see some data about the neurological effects, along with the effects on the entire body (are they more prone to other diseases? are they cognitively affected?).

    Yeah. As would we all. We are focused on having a greater proportion of them live through their teens.

    And further, why can't a parent just let a kid dress masculine/feminine and get a masculine haircut or grow out their hair? How is that considered a step towards transitioning?

    Gender affirmation is presenting as the other gender.

    Yeah, you can also present as a butch dyke, and there's not much difference until you have breasts.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Not a very good model for the surgery that teens with gender dysphoria would be considering. Did you mean block the rat's puberty and supplement cross-sex hormones, then implant breasts/perform mastectomy?

    I meant their whole lives (studying impact at each stage) starting from adolescence, which would include SRS (castration/spaying) at a later age. I don't see why the exact physical surgeries of SRS or mastectomy would need to be recreated outside of their hormonal impact, if that's what we want data on, so a genital reconstruction seems unnecessary, but removing the reproductive organs other than the genitals would elicit a comparable hormonal profile. Mastectomy/implants seems similarly unnecessary for the type of data I'm talking about. Also it sort of seems like a colossal waste of time to perfect the art of rat mastectomy/implants.

    Again, I said "long-term effects on development", and most kids who start these treatments continue all the way down the path. But yes, it would also be good to see some studies where they stop all treatment in the rats' lives after puberty and some time on cross-sex hormones.

    Yeah. As would we all. We are focused on having a greater proportion of them live through their teens.

    Youth with gender dysphoria have been living through their teens fine until this point. They're known as gays and lesbians.

    Gender affirmation is presenting as the other gender.

    Again, you can "present as the other gender" without pretending you're the other sex. "Presenting as a butch dyke" is the same as "presenting as a boy/man". If parents won't allow their little boy to wear dresses or their little girl to wear boy's clothes and have short hair without a gender dysphoria diagnosis, that's a different problem.

    [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hopefully he's been studying the blade, eh? Master of the blockchain? Yeah?

    [–]scornedandsedated 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I am not complaining. As long as they stay butt-ugly I will never mistake them as female.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Mm

    [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh, now he's just really blossoming! Clap clap clap clap clap!

    [–]ShoahKahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Theses aren't "transes" -- they're men with sexual fetishes (autogynephilia), who've taken their perversions into the mainstream.

    [–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    That's what 90% of trans women have always been.

    There is no true trans, just perverts and gays thinking they can get a straight guy to love them.

    [–]ShoahKahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's curious... Because I've know "trans women" (never actually had one ever refer to themselves by that term, BTW) since the mid-2000s, and even the least passable ones were, for some, after a few drinks, fuckable; and, of import, were well conscious of their passability / lack there-of.

    I'd be weary of conflating the "trans women" phenomenon we've seen rise over the past decade -- a product of failing, mostly Western societies, whose males' moral and character compasses have lost their bearings and chartered them a course to the Isle of Bacchanalia; exacerbated by the viral contagion of social media, and taken due (Jew) advantage of by (((Grabbler$))) -- with the transgenderism of biological males who have female inclined brains and personalities (a.k.a., "HSTS"). These are not one and same, any more than an apple is an orange.

    [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ah, the "real trans people" I keep hearing about. They must be hiding over in the corner with real communism and Bigfoot.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    *It's the same picture.