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[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, joy ... let's still deny stuff that has been demonstrated to be the case over and over ... in order to try and make the world fit primitive tribal nonsense by smelly Middle-Eastern herders!

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Find me a single proven instance of a complex chemical reaction that didn't happen, suddenly happening in any organism, without handwavium

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. But the process of evolution is undeniable. That living organisms change/evolve characteristics through many generations has been proven ... ad nauseum.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What has not been and never will be proved is that one kind of thing evolved into a different kind of thing. All of these complicated chemicals didn't evolve to be in men's sperm they were designed into it.

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It depends on what you mean by 'kind of thing', but if land mammals ('one kind of thing'?) can evolve into dolphins and whales etc., fish-like sea mammals ('a different kind of thing'?) then one kind of thing can indeed evolve into 'a different kind of thing'.

Today's pinnipeds, seals and sea-lions, etc., seem to be on their way there.

When you look at pinnipeds, do you imagine that they were 'designed' that way?

All of these complicated chemicals didn't evolve to be in men's sperm they were designed into it.

Wait, what, why, on what basis?

Is 'complexity' the issue that's bothering you about it?

Cannot complexity 'emerge' as it were?

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL there is, again, no proof that land mammals turnt to whales

everything was designed that way. how is this complicated. physical structures of snowflakes cannot be conflated with glandular hormone cocktails

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you look at the cell, it has many non trivial components, like ionic channels that permit atoms of a specific size. They want you to believe that cells accidentally formed after a zillion years.

One feature, reproduction, could not take a zillion years to form, for the simple reason that without a working reproductive system, the proto cell cannot pass information to its descendants, including it’s partly evolved reproduction system. That means the first cell had to be formed at the same time it had a fully working reproductive system. Reproduction is non trivial.

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

we are not the arbiters of what god did or did not do

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Then quote some science instead of assuming I trust it.

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can believe in evolution and in god creating it all

I dont have to believe in the World only being some 7000 to 10000 odd years old

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, this is a counterexample to abioogenesis, not the long age of earth.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Beneficial mutations never happen, except for all these hundreds of complex chemical synthesis reactions that nobody knew were a thing when the Theory Of Evolution was first proposed.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Changing the title is a bad idea. Makes it look like you just posted a picture of some jizz, and gave it a bizarre contrived title.

Accidentally reported you. Can you blame me? I mean, what the fuck dude.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

username

as usual

LOL

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is or not 'beneficial' is determined afterwards, depending on whether it increases or decreases your chances of reproducing, no?