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[–]monkeymagic 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

it seems like it’s meant to drive people away

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You mean the attackers?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Seen Edward lately?

[–]SkankyDick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm busy working on my project

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

/u/jet199 lol the attacks basically forced Edward to change his programs so he can do his spam again that's hillarious

[–]SkankyDick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Actually I was enjoying myself trolling this forum while I was working on my project, but now that this project is finished I have absolutely no use for this absolute sewer of a forum.

This forum was useful to me because it was so easy to troll and get banned and then just simply re-register a new account, but other than that this forum is totally useless.

I had a lot of time to kill while working on my trading project, and that is the only purpose that this forum served for me.

I'm actually not sure what the difference is between chatting on this forum and going to group in a full-blown lockdown psychiatric ward.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a shame you see the forum that way.

Yes, it's very easy to troll because you can keep creating new accounts.

But it's the only forum where you can have certain kinds of discussions. You could have enjoyed yourself here if you tried, instead of being an annoyance.

[–]SkankyDick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But it's the only forum where you can have certain kinds of discussions. You could have enjoyed yourself here if you tried, instead of being an annoyance

Oh I'm sorry you mean certain kinds of conversations where we can blame every problem in the world on Jewish people and niggers?

Yes you are right, this forum gives us the freedom to chat openly.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your type constantly mentions that. But you know what? I only see people blaming it on "jews and niggers" mostly as a joke. It's not the normality, unlike what some people mention.

Unless we're talking about California niggers but that's different and you know it.

I do admit I blocked a lot of people though. But if you're gonna speak about this issue when you only speak of coming across the user "ionlysaynigger" then I can't really take you seriously.

Yes you are right, this forum gives us the freedom to chat openly.

And that's a good thing. It's so good in fact we are constantly attacked by it, because certain people don't like free discussion.

That's literally the only point of this site existing actually. It's literally the motto: "Say your truth".

If you despise it so much why are you even here? Saidit is one of the worst sites to troll because people here are quite acquainted with how to deal with trolls.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Does cloudflare make you feel unsafe?

[–]BobOki[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Bruh, do you have any posts that are not bad titles to shock youtube videos? This is not reddit, why are you posting like it is?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because this is the 10th post like this.

You know full well why security is necessary.

Stop being lazy and look at what's been posted before saying the same thing as everyone else.

This is a small site. We don't need 10 whining posts saying the same thing and adding nothing.

Because this isn't reddit, dear.

[–]BobOki[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Once again, THIS IS NOT REDDIT. Stop posting like it is. We do not try to stamp out people speaking here, we do not care to silence conversation, and we don't much like asshats that do. If you don't like it, THEN DON'T READ IT and certainly don't bring down the conversation (a site rule btw) with your bullshit.

This post "wasn't made for you" so fuck off.

[–]SkankyDick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For a lot of people, cloudflare has made this website so difficult to use that it is next to useless.

Think about it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

man fuck this bullshit error 403

hey attackers, can you like stop?

[–]SkankyDick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

News flash: there are no attackers and there is no DDOS attack.. this website has garbage management, and one of the senior guys is a drunk all the time and I think he thought it would be a good idea to just lock the site down and he's too drunk to know that he completely f***** up this website.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah how come it doesn't remember us from moment to moment, that seems unnecessary.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think bots could exploit that.

With how magnora7 described the attackers, it seems the kind of people that know every method on the book.

[–]BobOki[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

While I understand this, there are millions of sites out there, and many MANY that are way more under attack then this one and they do not have this issue. Cloudflare also locks some people out depending on their ISPs, and some browsers. I get we want more protection against the garbage redditors non-stop attacking.... but I am not sure me having to log back in 3 times in 5 minutes is worth me ignoring 10 posts about bone conductive headphones. I know Bot Fight Mode sounds nice, but well this is what it does. It makes the sites nearly unusable as well as causing pages to only partially load.

I am trying to think of solutions, not just bitch, which is so often what people do, and being in IT I know what can easily be done, but the problem is a lot of it requires either people we can trust to do manual labor, or risk going the Reddit way and having tyrant mods. Like for instance, if we had a bunch of well known and like community people be given access to report posts, and if 3 of them report the post it is deleted. That would be not horrible, but that requires manual effort on their part, and then also allows censorship if they get butthurt about something.

It can't just be x reports = deleted, because that could just be bot brigaded. It could be something like members with x months/years + positive posts and above a portiive to negative threshold can report and if there is say 20 reports it is deleted, but that still is open for abuse. Usually POLICY is what fixes this, but that would require people here 24x7 doing it as a job, not likely.

Obviously some small things like a captcha, or shit man, a DAILY captcha/recaptcha or even a captcha for the first few posts per day, would dissuade a lot of bots, though there are services around that, but really redditors are so fucking lazy and poor they could not pay for that ;P There are other services that help with invalid and bot mitigation like CHEQ, but that starts to get spendy when traffic picks up (think like $200 for 100k visitors per day?)

I do not remember needing to verify/validate my email when I signed up, that certainly is a must if that is not already here. RBLs won't work in this age of VPN, so that is out. OBVIOUSLY cannot do trigger word blocks, that would kill real posts.

No clue if it would work or not, but I hear people have some decent luck with https://www.stopforumspam.com, though that is typically for crap like pphb or like wordpress. That service is basically a service that all these sites report spammers/bots to, (not sure what all data is sent) but then they provide that list to others via a plugin so when people sign up if they are on that list, denied. That would block a lot of existing or paid-for-bots and bad actors, but of course they could just make more accounts, but hey this service is free.

I don't know what OS this is hosted on, assuming linux, so something like https://www.imunify360.com might also help, as it is a full security suite, including WAF, that says it can block bots and bad actors, obviously at the firewall level. Think it's like $45 a month.

Anyways, that is what a quick thought is. I really don't want to just complain, but try to be part of the solution.

p.s. I had to rereg with cloudfare 3 times while typing this.

p.p.s. If you keep a single window open on /new, then before you hit post on anything just go to that window and click the new tab again to force re-reg. Refresh DOES NOT always force it.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No shit, it's too long.

Hold up, why do you need to rereg while you are typing? You only have to do it once when you want to post.

Why do you want the security lowered again?

[–]BobOki[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cloudflare reg times out VERY quickly. You will get a 403 error if you are typing more than say, 2 minutes. So when you go to post, you get 403. You have to go to a separate page, rereg, then you can hit post once again. If you are just browsing or making comments that take 20 seconds, this will not affect you as much. If you are off and on browsing, doing research on the backend for posts, going to take a piss and come back, etc, this makes website usage pretty much a standstill of non-stop rereg.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have the same question, Musky. We have unique IP addresses. If Cloudflare sees that we are "human" one time, then why don't they white-list our IP address.... at least for the remainder of the current day?

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This is not "extra protection" we're literally under attack by god knows what this is the only way the website can function at the moment.

[–]jjj49er🧠 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that why the app stopped working?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This gonna be the next kiwifarms?

[–]bucetao6969 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well it's still up.

I think magnora7 learned from the mistakes of all the people that tried setting up a forum like this. It's very resilient and has good systems and dynamics... it would take a real and actual concentrated effort to take it down. Theorically you could only take it down by destroying its communities.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It kept disappearing and now it's super slow. Is this the price we pay to speak freely on the internet of all places?

[–]bucetao6969 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately it is my friend.

I'm actually surprised it was able to run for this long with no real inconveniences.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually good point.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you saying that retard Keffals might be behind this?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

fucking probably!

[–]SkankyDick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This website is already dead and the funeral is coming up soon.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only name that keeps coming up when being blocked from using this website is.... Cloudflare.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can't seem to use the Saidit app anymore on my phone since whatever this is happened. I followed the instructions (deleting my account and re-adding it), but it won't let me re-add it. "Enable Javascript and cookies to continue" is the error I get within the app. What happened?

[–]DNase 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just use it on a mobile browser. Works fine. I use it on Mull

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, no- I like the app. Hoping someone can assist.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Come post on https://rabbithole.wf, there's no cloudflare there. 🥳

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

magnora7 pls

[–]Goingoutforawalk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm logging till this isn't making me reverify myself for every comment.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Saidit would need a whitelisting feature such that even in the case of massive spam you only get to see the content of people you want to see, so just like Adblock user defined lists.

[–]BobOki[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would be fine with something like that for sure, maybe you have to be here a few months and have a positive history or post history? Allow you to "apply" for whitelist and it be an automated thing that does it? This would not stop buying accounts or hacking accounts.... but better already ;P

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I go through the wait white while we check to see if it's secure every time I use saidit.