Holocaust Denialists think the Holocaust is impossible because they cannot do multiplication

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Just one single abattoir can slaughter 2000 cows every day and they are doing it in a humane fashion. A major industrial power like Nazi Germany would have no problem at all with killing 2000 frightened, confused, unarmed civilians in a day. That's 730,000 in year, nearly 1.5 million in two years, in a single camp. The Nazis had six dedicated extermination camps.

Denialists think that murdering six million people is implausibly high. I think it is a miracle that it was only six million. If the Nazis weren't fighting a war at the same time it could have been sixty million, easy peasy.

(Fact: most of the six million, plus another eleven million non-Jews killed by the Nazis, were not gassed in the extermination camps, but shot, starved, worked to death, beaten to death, hanged or otherwise killed.)

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[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There are a lot of reasons to doubt the holocaust story. What you are confused by is the argument that it would be impossible for the Nazis to cremate 6 million bodies with the furnaces they had. This is a fact. Those furnaces were sized and used to burn lice infected blankets and clothing.

The reason the bodies need to be cremated for the holocaust story to be true is because there are no remains of the 6 million jews and millions of other prisoners who were supposedly killed. There have been several attempts to find the evidence with ground penetrating radar and excavations. The results show that the total amount of dead was between 200 and 300 thousand.

[–]brimshae 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Pssh. Next you're going to tell me rollercoasters that went in to the incinerators weren't real either.

[–]someboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The results show that the total amount of dead was between 200 and 300 thousand.

that is more people than there are users on this forum.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What you claim "is a fact" isn't.

  • There have been many mass burial pits found, despite the efforts of the Germans to hide them. For instance, some pits contain tons of ash, while others contain skeletons. It is 100% a lie to say that no remains have been found.
  • Many more tens of thousands were killed in pogroms and mass slaughters in cities, not in the camps, and the bodies just buried as normal in regular cemeteries.
  • You are right that the crematoria at the extermination camps couldn't keep up with the demand to burn all the corpses. That's why the Germans shifted to open-air burning pits that could handle many more bodies at a time.
  • Hundreds of acres of land have had the soil chemistry permanently changed by the sheer amount of ash and burnt bone. 80 years later you can stick your hand in the ground and come out with tiny fragments of burned bone. You can walk along the fields and see with your own eyes the change in soil between places where the ash was spread and the natural soil of the region.
  • Many of the victims of the Germans died of starvation and disease after the camps were liberated. People don't magically get well the instant the German guards surrender. Nor did their bodies just magically disappear.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is 100% a lie to say that no remains have been found.

What I wrote: The results [of the search for remains] show that the total amount of dead was between 200 and 300 thousand.

Many more tens of thousands were killed in pogroms and mass slaughters in cities, not in the camps,

That is not where the 6 million number comes from. The claim according to the jewish white washed history is that 6 million were killed in the camps.

That's why the Germans shifted to open-air burning pits

More lies to cover up the lies that have been exposed. Open air burning pits would require a lot of fuel because they are inefficient. Pits like this would still leave 6 million skeletons, along with tons of residue from whatever was used as fuel. That does not exist anywhere.

Hundreds of acres of land have had the soil chemistry permanently changed by the sheer amount of ash and burnt bone.

lies.

Nor did their bodies just magically disappear.

According to the holocaust story they did.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The claim according to the jewish white washed history is that 6 million were killed in the camps.

Ignorant people who don't know better might believe that all of the deaths were in the extermination camps, but they are wrong. Around two million were killed in the extermination camps, and most of them had their bodies cremated. Very few bodies or even whole bones can be found, but there are hundreds of acres of land with tonnes of ash and bone fragments. You call it a lie, but you can travel there and stick your hand in the soil yourself.

Across eastern Europe, mobile killing squads rounded up people from towns and villages, shot them, and buried them in mass graves. Many of those were later burned, but not all, for example:

During the death marches late in the war, sick prisoners who could not continue were shot where they fell, either buried in a shallow grave or left for the wild animals. Some of these graves have been found, but they are unmarked and out in the countryside and hard to find.

And of course, after liberation, the concentration camp prisoners did not instantly recover. At least 30,000 died in the first few weeks, under the noses of the Allied doctors.

Open air burning pits would require a lot of fuel because they are inefficient. Pits like this would still leave 6 million skeletons

Open air burning pits are extremely efficient if you build them correctly, and the Germans had no shortage of clever engineers who worked out very quickly how to burn the corpses. The melted fat was collected in channels, and Jewish prisoners were forced to collect it and pour it over the bodies placed in layers. The Germans found that by alternating layers of fat and skinny (or even emaciated) bodies, they could generate enough heat to reduce the entire body to ash with just a small amount of fuel needed to start the process going.

There is a huge amount of potential heat stored in human flesh if you can dry it out enough to ignite it:

There were no entire skeletons because, just like in a crematorium, the bones are burned and can be easily pounded into ash and small fragments. Have you never thrown a bone into a bonfire?

Sometimes the Nazis were lazy, or in a hurry, and rather than spreading the ash out they dumped it all in a great big pit. That makes it easy to estimate the number of victims: we know how much ash a single person makes on average, and can work out the size of the pit and how much ash it contains, so that's just a matter of dividing.

According to the holocaust story they did.

No. According to lies Denialists tell about the Holocaust the bodies just disappeared into thin air. They did not. They left traces: corpses, piles of ash and bone, burial pits, paper records, eye-witnesses, photos, etc.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The logistics simply don't work out. These aren't cows people were eating.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This

Accounting for the number of deaths of Jews c. 1933-45 or specifically 1943-45 is problematic because of the logistics of locating the appropriate number of specifically Jewish individuals who were murdered in every mass grave and crematorium. The numbers could be in the millions, according to several estimates, but it is very informative that questioning the 6 million number as too high is itself "holocaust denial" and "antisemitic", whereas it's merely part of the research on the logistics of the murders.

[–]boston_blackie 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why would a country fighting a war on so many fronts commit to using so much fuel for this burning you speak of. What fuel did they use? Coal ? wood? , diesel, gasoline, kerosene? It just doesn't make sense to prioritize the use of fuel for burning Jews to be higher than that of fueling planes, tanks, cars, trucks etc. especially since they were fighting Russia, their supply lines were stretched incredibly thin. Its inconceivable to me that the Germans would sideline fuel away from the war effort for this.

[–]GuyWhite 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They used petroleum coke. Similar to coal. It is the least valuable and least useful product of petroleum refining.

[–]boston_blackie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sources for this information?

[–]boston_blackie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where would the Germans get the by-product of petroleum refining?

[–]GuyWhite 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same place they got the gasoline and diesel they used to fight the war.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why would a country fighting a war on so many fronts commit to using so much fuel for this burning you speak of.

Because the country was run by racists who were obsessed with destroying the Jews and other undesirables even at the cost of everything else.

What fuel did they use?

Mostly human fat and flesh. They only needed a small amount of fuel to start the fire going. Once it was hot enough, even emaciated people with little or no fat on them will sustain a fire.

The fuel used by the trains to transport people to the camps was far more significant than the small amount used to run the crematoria.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That doesn't sound scientific at all. Are you suggesting that the concentration camp inmates were so fat that their fat fueled the fire that cremated their bodies?

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of the people murdered in the extermination camps, and then burned, were not "concentration camp inmates". They were arrested, held for only a few days at most, put on a train to the camp, where they were unloaded and gassed within a few hours. They would be hungry and a bit dehydrated from the train journey (they were not given food or water) but they still had normal levels of fat for a healthy person in the 1940s.

Its not just the fat that provided heat, protein does too. Almost everything aside from water and bone will generate heat on combustion in the human body. The average human body contains 125000 calories, which is almost double what you need to completely boil 30 kg of water. With just a bit of fuel needed to to prime the pump, so to speak, the process is completely self-sustaining. One normal healthy body contains enough fuel energy to completely burn itself to ash, plus enough left over to ignite one or two more bodies. Even emaciated bodies contain enough fuel to burn themselves to ash, and they're easier to ignite because they don't have as much water.

Human corpses are hard to ignite, but once you manage it, they burn like the blazes.

[–]KyleIsThisTall 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Notice how all these so-called "death camps" were all located in the areas held by the jewish controlled marxist Russians who lie about everything and intentionally starved millions of Christians. Notice also how all the false claims of death camps in the west were debunked by Red Cross investigators.

QED it's a fucking lie.

And that doesn't even start with the official census of jews in Europe before the war at approximately 15 million increasing to over 15.5 million after the war. How much of a gullible retard do you have to be to believe this bullshit?

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Real "death camps" were those in Yugoslavia which targeted Orthodox Christians. Also in Greece, "death camps", for example at Feneos, were organized by communists to mass murder random people according to their directive that 10% of the population should die in order to terrorize the rest and make them join the communists.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

jewish controlled marxist Russians who lie about everything and intentionally starved millions of Christians

😂 😂 😂

the official census of jews in Europe before the war at approximately 15 million increasing to over 15.5 million after the war.

Well when you're just going to make up complete bullshit plucked out of your ass, it's hardly worth having a conversation now isn't it?

In 1933 there were about 9.5 million Jews in Europe. At the end of the war, the European Jewish population had fallen to around 3.5 million.

[–]GraviAss We Can 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/t29b0C8EOgKd/

[–]rubberbiscuit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cows are easily brought to slaughter. People would have to be hunted down, round up, transported. Sure that happened but the number is most likely inflated.

[–]ShoahKahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jewess 'proves' the 'veracity' of "The Holocaust" by "excavating" Treblinka, where the remains of an alleged "900,000 bodies" reside, and finding a single, femur bone from an identified adolescent:

https://youtu.be/c872K5BrBUw 👌😅

[–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Here's a real 17 million who died during that time.

https://files.catbox.moe/kmkcl0.jpeg

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Those numbers are grossly exaggerated, but yes, millions of Germans died. Probably about 7 million military and civilian, including around two million during the Expulsion of the Germans. WW2 was tragic all round.

[–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

But jew numbers aren't exaggerated? They literally claimed 4 million died at Auschwitz and now claim 1.5 million with less than a million of that being jews. What's 6 million minus 3 million? If they lied about millions...what else did they lie about?

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

They literally claimed 4 million died at Auschwitz

No, the Polish government invented an extra 2 million non-Jewish Poles that they claimed were killed. Even at the time the number was on the nose, but the government pushed it for political reasons.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's always someone else's fault to you. Never the jews. I just posted a link in it's own thread of another anti-white book written by a filthy jew. I'm sure you'll go defend that as well, huh? Someone probably forced the jew to write it?

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's always someone else's fault to you. Never the jews.

What, all of them? Every single one? If one jew does something bad, every single jew in the world is to blame?

According to you, when gentiles (the post-war Polish government) inflate the number of deaths at Auschwitz for political purposes, it's the Jews' fault. How does that make any sense at all?

I just posted a link in it's own thread of another anti-white book

If only it was written by a gentile, it would be fine! Right?

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

A gentile? Are you jewish?

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I've told you before. I'm no more jewish than der Führer was.

But I'm not ignorant. I know that gentile means "not Jewish", and I'm allowed to use the term too.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yet the only people who uses that term are sand niggers....

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You use the term goyim. Does that make you jewish?

[–]Questionable-̱͞|͞מ͟͞͞פ͟ו͟͞͞ק͞פ͟͞͞ק͞|̊̆ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://codoh.com/library/document/starvation-of-germany-after-world-war-ii/en/

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/01/11/a-holocaust-was-what-the-americans-did-to-the-germans/

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You: "Lots of Russians and Germans died too, which means that they couldn't have committed genocide."

If you think I am shocked by the fact that the allies were not squeaky clean good guys, you will be very disappointed. I know that they did many horrific things too.

[–]Questionable-̱͞|͞מ͟͞͞פ͟ו͟͞͞ק͞פ͟͞͞ק͞|̊̆ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's the source of the videos for the piles of corpses attributed to the holocaust. Which is strange. Bodies that were supposedly incinerated.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, bodies that weren't incinerated, duh.

[–]Questionable-̱͞|͞מ͟͞͞פ͟ו͟͞͞ק͞פ͟͞͞ק͞|̊̆ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You are so smart that you figure that out. Thanks for informing me of this.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Apparently one batch of killing Jews in a gas chamber with capacity between 500 and 2,000 took 1.5 hours, mostly because of the delay in emptying the chamber. I wonder what the actual cost was per victim to the Nazis and how relatively efficient it was compared to other methods. I was told that bullets were too expensive, but I don't think it's that. The biggest cost probably was to guard the ones still alive.

If I knew the price the Nazis paid, I could compare it to other approaches. If money was less of an issue, I think there are plenty of methods with higher throughput (even back then).

A modern genocide implementation would probably be able to kill orders of magnitude more per square meter per hour.

Fun fact: a historian claims the German population knew about the camps: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/feb/17/johnezard. Kind of makes you think twice about giving them a nuclear weapon, right? I am all for more European nukes, but please have them be controlled by some of the more sane countries in the EU.

[–]someboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently one batch of killing Jews in a gas chamber with capacity between 500 and 2,000 took 1.5 hours

vaccinating them would be profitable.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Best way to piss somebody off is tell the plain ass truth.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where's your proof?

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

In Greece during WWII, communists murdered far more people than the Germans. They also organized real death camps, like that at Feneos.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

In Greece during WWII, communists murdered far more people than the Germans.

Of course they did. I believe you. Millions wouldn't, but I do. 🙄

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I see no reason someone wouldn't believe this. It's even on English Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feneos

During the Greek Civil War, Communist guerillas turned the nearby monastery of St. George into a concentration camp and killing ground for those they deemed "reactionaries". The concentration camp was well-organized for mass killings, with 6-7 resident killers that worked round the clock in busy times. It is believed that hundreds were killed.

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feneos_executions

One of the most notorious concentrations camps was the Monastery of Saint George, near the village of Kalivia Feneou in Corinthia. The ELAS partisans killed the 6 monks and turned the monastery cellars into a prison (March 1943). Unlike other camps, hostages did not stay for long there as after a few days they were taken to several nearby cliffs and other isolated sites, where they were executed. The executions were supervised by Vaggelis Zegos (nicknamed "Stathes" or "Triantafyllos"), representative of the Peloponesian Office of the EAM. Zegos was also in charge of all operations against anticommunists and non-communists in Argolis, Corinthia and northern Arcadia. In order to terrorise the rural populations, he used to arrest 5-10% of the inhabitants of each village. Killings in Feneos carried on until June 1944.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

"Hundreds" you say.

Before the war, the Jewish population of Greece was around 75,000. Only about 10,000 survived. I don't know how arithmetic works in Greece, but when I went to school, 65 thousand was larger than a few hundred.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You are an actor who posts in bad faith. The articles I posted have details on the number of the victims which obviously you didn't bother to read and Feneos was only one of the many death camps operated by communists. As for the jewish population of Greece, they had been slaughtering the local population for decades as was the case with the Holocaust of Naousa (a real holocaust, not like the holohoax),

And, by the way, the jews of Thessaloniki and Ioannina were led to the concentration camps thanks to their leaders who ordered them to go there.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the Holocaust of Naousa

You mean when the Turks massacred 5000 Greeks, Christians and Jews alike, in 1822?

Yes, very sad. Human beings do awful things to each other.

the jews of Thessaloniki and Ioannina were led to the concentration camps thanks to their leaders who ordered them to go there.

This would be the concentration camps that don't exist because it's all a hoax? Gotcha.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no way the Turks would have massacred Jews in 1822, for the simple fact that Jews were their allies who took over the annihilation of the local population, the torture of the prisoners and the slave trade. As for what happened in Thessaloniki during WWII, ask rabbi Koretz and also ask Israeli authorities for the reason they never prosecuted Max Merten and Konstantinos Karamanlis.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

By the way, Karl Marx was four years old when the Naousa massacre took place. Maybe those evil commies built a time machine to go back a hundred years in time to kill some Greeks, because reasons.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I already said you are an actor who posts in bad faith. You mentioned the thriving jewish population of Greece, and the only reason they were thriving was that they had been killing Christians around the areas they occupied under the protection of the Ottomans. The Holocaust of Naousa happened because of the hatred Jews had for Christians. As for the concentration camps of WWII, the real death camps in the Balkans weren't operated by Germans and didn't target the Jews and the victims didn't die of typhus.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

the only reason they were thriving was that they had been killing Christians around the areas they occupied under the protection of the Ottomans.

Source: "Trust Me Bro, I made it up and I wouldn't make up something so insanely stupid unless it was real, would I?"

I don't know where your dealer's getting his oxy from, but its obviously cut with some really bad shit.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Source: "Trust Me Bro, I made it up and I wouldn't make up something so insanely stupid unless it was real, would I?"

Are you experiencing a delirium about the holohoax again? And those horrible masturbation machines the bad nazis used to masturbate six gazillion jews to death?

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

those horrible masturbation machines the bad nazis used to masturbate six gazillion jews to death

😂 😂 😂

Sounds like sexy-horror fantasies written by Israeli masochists.

[–]weavilsatemyface[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

delirium about the holohoax again?

You're the one telling made-up stories about imaginary holocaust of Christians by Jews.

[–]Iswearbymyfloralhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What did the angry ass speeches say? What was the drama with the Rothschild bank in Germany? We need to know know more about WHY it happened. Why mr goldberg

[–]thomastheglassexpert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I very rarely bother to read ANY of the Jew hating holocaust deniers for same reason I do not have conversations with brain damaged psychotics. There are simply some people that via their hatred will deny any damn thing they want and evidence offered simply scorned. Trying to talk with such haters with logic and reason and evidence is a 100% waste of time.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://files.catbox.moe/kmewxh.jpeg