I used to hate /r/askgaybros, but lately they give me hope that the whole LGB people haven't gone crazy

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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 66 insightful - 5 fun66 insightful - 4 fun67 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I'M LOVING THE COMMENTS. Just saying. I appreciate A LOT that gay men are being this upfront and not giving two f*cks. I'm also pretty upfront and direct, so it's good seeing many people standing up.

This person is a f*cking professional victim. Jeez.

EDIT: Meanwhile, I found a gay guy on there that it's the opposite of me (user: FH1031): He said, in the middle of a discussion there: "I personally do not relate to females and effeminate men." I'm literally the opposite, I have real trouble relating to males and masculine woman and my friends are basically females and effeminate men 😅 This is just a curious thing I found, nothing else lmao.

[–]shveya 40 insightful - 19 fun40 insightful - 18 fun41 insightful - 19 fun -  (0 children)

"Maybe if I just lecture gay people, they'll understand that my blue hair and Hawaiian print shirt make me the kweerest in the land uwu".

[–][deleted] 40 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I posted a few weeks ago to that sub that it was gonna turn into a shitshow. And it did. All the banned people from other subs who barely posted there are now posting there a lot more regularly.

It can be a pretty based sub at times. /r/askgaybrosover30 is much more reasoned. /r/agb swings LOW age wise. You only have to see the usual posts to see that. The young almost to a man are in on the /r/lgbt hug box train. Some of the older ones are much more realistic with their world-views.

Gay men were always going to be the last to 'bend the knee' to the TRA's. Most gay men with any balls what so ever will shut that nonsense down fast.

There is hardly any approval for the whole genital preferences crapola.

That said https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/hzc3jc/i_dont_like_interacting_with_conservative_lgbt/

This threads a clusterfuck of cope. I am not a conservative. Or a republican. These twats are fucking of the chain though.

'I disagree. Adults should be able to have conversations where they may be disagreements without it turning into a screaming match' Downvoted.....

'FrAdr 9 points · 1 hour ago Gold

TBH where I come from, most leftwing people I've talked to, and whatever their sexual orientation, jump straight to being rude or insults whenever you say you're conservative or from the political right.

However I would never say just because they have different opinions that they don't deserve respect or free speech. level 2 FlameChakram -3 points · 24 minutes ago

being rude or insults whenever you say you're conservative or from the political right.

Yeah, people generally hate fascists. So this makes sense. level 3 Air3090 2 points · 17 minutes ago

Conservative and facist are not synonyms just as liberal and communist are not. level 4 FlameChakram -3 points · 16 minutes ago

In America they are one in the same, unfortunately. level 5 Air3090 2 points · 9 minutes ago

You must be fun at parties.'

What absolute cunts.

[–]fuck_reddit 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's funny because I am largely friends with Republican, conservative, or moderate gay guys, and they can't stand left-wing gay guys. It seems to be a very mutual distaste...

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They always talk about right wing fascism, then all applaud when someone who meets their ever changing definition of hate speech gets banned. They mentioned us in the comments again.

[–]fuck_reddit 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"Fascists can DIE, anyway, do you want to go shout down inconvenient speakers, get people forced off the internet, ban books, intimidate scientists, and strangle the academy?"

[–]LushCanopy 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Why is the trans cult always attacking lesbians and gays about their sexuality? A lot of straight men are transphobic as fuck lol, but they never get called out for their "genital preference".

[–]Tikiri 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I’ve wondered about this a lot, as well. I think partly it’s because straight men hold more power than anyone else, anywhere in the world, and going after them can badly backfire against their movement. So they attack LGB people who have much less power, in comparison. Then again, so many transwomen are straight men who go after lesbians (for the “validation” by the looks of it), and the rest are gay men, so they attack LGB people for rejecting their advances. I think it all stems from a volatile mix of acute frustration and intense narcissism in the trans people who do go on attack mode. Not all do, from what I’ve seen, but the few sane, reasonable trans people I’ve interacted with online told me they get doxxed, harassed and threatened like everyone else. They don’t want anything to do with the Transcult but they’re scared to say anything too.

[–]divingrightintowork 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Women are scared that transwomen will kill them, transwomen are scared that men will kill them.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I see it in a somewhat different perspective. Homosexual relations have an understanding of sameness that hetero relations do not have. For example, males are capable of relating to each other in ways that males and females cannot do together and vice versa. This frustrates the transgender concept because it is unable to use the cover of opposite sex unrelatability. In other words, it's easier to fool a person into believing that actual transformation to the sex opposite of the observer is possible.

On a side note I dare say that practicing the transgender concept is not sane nor reasonable. Any participation in it is being part of the cult.

[–]Tikiri 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Definitely! I think that’s part of why the OP is so angry - I think he feels he’s being rejected by the very members of his own community because they don’t buy his GenderWooWoo. He’s a gay man whose identity is being rejected by other gay men. I’m a straight woman so I could be totally misreading it, but that’s what came across in his post.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep, I think you've hit the nail on the head. One of the threads on AGB that was asserting "trans men are men" was filled with normal gay guys asking these trans "guys" to define manhood. When these trans guys did, it was abundantly clear that they weren't guys and had a fetishist/homophobic/etc. view of gay guys. A straight guy, however, is probably less certain (or able to assert) what womanhood is. It infuriates them that their sexual targets so swiftly and easily expose their false-persona.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My definition of manhood is the shared experience of adult males. Our physical bodies are our human basis, so body parts like genitals matter. For example, every guy can relate to one another what it's like to have a dick and balls, and that has social consequences. I wouldn't expect a female to be able to fully understand its scope. I suspect there remain many unknowns related to Y chromosome gene expression which also contribute to the male body shared experience--hormones are likely being given far too much prominence in the equation.

The "trans X ARE X" dogma is a stubborn insistence that details don't matter. It's annoyingly anti-science.

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. Hormones being used to "make someone" the opposite sex is like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound, the "damage" of puberty and nearly two decades of development is already there. Also, administering hormones/blockers at a young age doesn't change much either, most of the effort is just preventing what would naturally happen, not promoting the opposite. Also there's so much development that occurs pre-puberty that it's just not really possible to change sexes.

[–]kwallio 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think trans people are just super homophobic, and straight men aren't homosexual so they don't get targeted. Notice all the stuff about cis gays/lesbians is sooooooo transphobic.

[–]supersmokio6420 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Straight people aren't part of the so-called LGBT community, so aren't there to be attacked in the first place. They do try to call them out, but the message doesn't get through because they don't pay any attention to it.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 34 insightful - 4 fun34 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Gay bros bringing the sanity. Don’t stop dudes. How do these gender authoritarians not realize they sound like the homophobic religious zealots from yesteryear but even worse and even less internally consistent. Nothing but evangelizing, proselytizing, and navel-gazing. They are not content with tolerance. They demand capitulation, centering, and sexual access.

What gender is a lamp lol?

[–]cutenoobies 23 insightful - 10 fun23 insightful - 9 fun24 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Lol. I had just typed a response and found out that the person had deleted their account cuz the amount of backlash was enormous.

[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

In the 1980’s, we were family. Lesbians were helping to care for our gay bros, as the AIDS epidemic was decimating gay men.

I have missed that solidarity while lesbians have been dealing with the erasure from the transcult.

I welcome the partnership in standing strong together as the trans movement attempts to erase sexual orientation.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, indeed. Lesbians and gay men really need to stick and support each other on this, as well as 'non-woke' bisexual people.

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have any articles/links on Lesbian support during the AIDs crisis? I'm a gay guy and I wasn't aware that this had happened (but it doesn't surprise me). I'd love to read more!

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Our early history is easy to google.

Here are a few:

https://revolution.berkeley.edu/lesbian-support-aids-crisis/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aids-crisis-lesbians_n_5616867ae4b0e66ad4c6a7c4

https://www.out.com/positive-voices/2016/12/01/woman-who-cared-hundreds-abandoned-gay-men-dying-aids

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you! I will do my own searching too!

[–]psufanof2631 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I made a comment there about why the trans movement is bad for LGB, prepared to be downvoted to hell, and it surprisingly got 14 points. Gay guys aren't going to put up with this bullshit.

[–]Some-unoriginal-guy 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just hope that sub doesn't get banned after this

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I doubt it's going to get banned. The real danger is that the mod (there is only one) gets pressured to moderate more actively and TQ+-friendly or to take on additional mods (and we know who will be first in line for those positions) until the sub turns into another uWu-so-brave-hugbox.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hahaha those comments <3 I love you guys!

[–]8bitgay 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

nb and gender-fluid people can be gay men too

So if you’re gender-fluid and you identify with your masculinity one day and you’re also attracted to men - you are a gay man.

OP wrote it in one of the comments. This is probably the major point of the thread. If you (by you I mean the OP of the original post) wanna say that you don't identify as a man, whatever, that's your deal, not mine. But things doesn't stop there. You simultaneously say you aren't a man and that others have to recognize you as a non-man, AND you demand to be included in spaces for men who are into men, and to be a part of their sexuality.

Even if you say that you are genderfluid and identify as a man 90% of the time, at least 10% of the time you aren't a man, and by your internal logic of gender a man in a relationship with you would be straight during this 10% of time.

Going by your internal logic it would make much more sense to define yourself as straight, since you have a different gender identity from other men. So I wonder why is it that you'd prefer to call yourself gay and demand to be part of the gay community instead...

[–]fuck_reddit 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

"We’re not policing what people can and can find attractive - I’m trying to demonstrate that some of these statements/narratives are inadvertently harmful to members of our community and need to stop." Oxymoron in sentence form... (emphasis on "moron")

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

straight-passing

It's straight acting. Unlike the trans thing, homos don't want to lie about what they are.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a really good catch in vocabulary. E.g., am not trying to "pass" as anything.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's interesting how the terms these people use seem to be selected for their value in obfuscating the truth, but upon close inspection end up exposing the truth.

[–]immersang 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

'"Non-binary" and "gender-fluid" are not real things. Don't talk to me and you won't have to hear that sad truth denying "your experience" from me.'

'See this is cis privilege. Just because it’s not real to you doesn’t mean it’s not real for other people.'

'See, this is trans privilege. Usually when something is not real, it's not real. But when trans people come up with something not real, suddenly everyone has to consider it real.'

Oh burn.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if it gives me hope... too many of them parrot the gender ideology they have been raised on. It's fun to read though.

[–]Revision10Just a guy 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You can't say the same for /r/askgaybrosOver30 though: https://i.imgur.com/o8SfIV6.jpg

[–]fuck_reddit 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"Implying transmen aren't men is similar to saying gay men aren't men" no it literally isn't. That's so offensively wrong considering how many cultures historically and currently force gay men to transition rather than live as gay men. Edit: autocorrect changed "transmen" to "tradesmen" in the original, and then changed it to "transmit" when I was typing this edit. Autocorrect is clearly transphobic

[–]Revision10Just a guy 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You can look at it like this:
- a personal opinion challenged by physical reality (transphobia)
- physical reality challenged by a personal opinion (homophobia)

related but opposites

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The new rules reddit rolled out are hitting a lot of actively moderated subs hard. They are all in panic mode. The chilling effect marches on.

/r/agb is barely modded in comparison. Which considering it's size and reach honestly surprises me. I would have thought reddit admin would have installed/enforced the taking of on more mods for a sub that size. Mods who I am sure would be pulled in from the trans subs.

[–]JulienMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGBOver30 has one massively pro-trans mod.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transmen are men.

Oxymoron indeed.

It’s too bad the cult at reddit is casting the net farther afield for new victims of the slash and burn, trans-style.

[–]CJLez 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This was part of a response to someone saying that they don't date NB people because NB people don't identify as men

I don’t know how to explain to you that just because you’re not constantly adhering to society’s idea of what a man should be doesn’t mean you can’t be a man or that you don’t have experiences that align with that of cisgender men.

They were so close to understanding that men don't have to be Randy Savage to 'be a man' but fell at the last hurdle.

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Translation: "I don't know how to explain to you that your sexuality and right to consent is wrong."

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Meh. Still hate it. Trans critical or not they're a bunch of self absorbed cringelords.

[–]Revision10Just a guy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like it as a much lighter gaybroscirclejerk

[–]LasagnaRossa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, the people in the comments truly don't give a fuck! It's so odd! Nowadays the lgbt subs are so censored that every thread is a circlejerk.

So happy to know we're not alone in this battle.

And it's so sad that all the women subs have been policed :(

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How long before they're banned?