Gay MenCis gays, you just need to work on your attraction to transmen

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[–]Shadow_Lurker 40 insightful - 7 fun40 insightful - 6 fun41 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

The irony in this tweet is that transgender ideology as a whole is filled with lots cognitive dissonance.

Gays: HRT doesn't change ones sex, so 'transmen' are still female and so we aren't interested in them.

FtM: but...what about men that had lost their penises on car accidents, or intersex men, because they are obviously equivalent to woman who pertake in a bunch of hormonal and aesthetic treatments in order to catfish, ops I mean trick, no be their real selves!

And let's not forget the classic anwser when, real and honest transwoman act like fetishist creeps: "they aren't really trans".

[–]Willpoll 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The thing about the person losing their dick in an accident is theirs always the subtext that theirs already a blossoming relationship happening before it. Yes, if someone lost their dick before I met them it would possibly be a deal braker, but if we were already going steady before then then we could probably work through it

[–]fuck_reddit 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. That would be a man I know and love who has gone through tragedy and who I would love and support. Also what kind of accident do you just lose your dick in? Like "oh, honey, um, I kinda, um, accidentally cut my dick off while sawing some wood planks...." If you lose your dick in an accident, I don't think the dick is gonna be the major issue... I'd think the guy's legs would be impacted heavily too and that is entirely different from a woman cosplaying as an uwu softboi.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What the fuck is up with the T?

Taking testosterone and still having their "mangina" is not the same as a MAN, an adult human male losing his dick in a TERRIBLE accident.

I'm not a fan of plastic surgery, but if that man lost his dick and got surgery to get it back, I'd be more willing than be with someone like a trans female who's delusional with their "mangina" or their "remanufactured" genitals that don't belong on their bodies.

I just...it's sickening that they make these kind of comparisons in the first place to get "oppression points".

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 19 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

FtM: but...what about men that had lost their penises on car accidents, or intersex men

Am I the only one who, when they bust out the ol' lost-penis canard, can't help but think of a man looking around and saying in exasperation, "where the hell is it??? It was right HERE five minutes ago! OK, now if I were a penis... where would I be?" And maybe trying the Lost & Found desk?

Just me then? OK

And re: the intersex-men whataboutism... oh, people with DSD must love THIS, right? Being used as a human "gotcha!" (and by whiny rapists, no less). But, since you won't stfu about it asked, FtM: potentially attractive to gay men = intersex men who have male primary sex characteristics. The technical term for which is A DICK. Not to be confused with some Frankenpeen flesh-tube-sausage-thing that looks like it originated in a mad scientist's lab. People with DSD who are biologically male but don't have a dick, like those who've got CAIS (and appear female), need not apply. In other words: JUST LIKE "TRANSMEN". Put it another way: the ONLY bio-females in whom gay men could be sexually interested are the ones with DSD conditions like De la Chapelle Syndrome (aka XX Male Syndrome)... who, regardless of their chromosomes, appear male. Especially in the homegrown-dick department.

Cuz, FtMs: the yaoi ya love so much? It was created by, and for, women.

Gay men, by contrast, were not.

LEARN THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE ALREADY

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And re: the intersex-men whataboutism

Whenever they do this I remind them that birth defects that affect sex don't prove that sex isn't binary any more than a person being born with one leg (a birth defect) don't prove that humans aren't bipeds.

[–]8bitgay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The thing I find the most absurd is that men that lose their penises on accidents face so many internal and external issues from it.

I bet that in the current scenario you'd have more chances of being a "gay" porn star as a transman than as a man that lost his penis.

[–]fuck_reddit 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

You can tell they recognize that a guy losing his dick would be a major issue for most relationships because they have to qualify the statement so much...

[–]Eurowoman24 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

they can never recognize that a single guy who lost his dick would have just as much trouble dating, whereas a guy in an already established relationship wouldn't.

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. Also, at least in my case, I would have some sympathy for a guy who lost his dick. He has no control over that. A trans person just simply isn't the proper biological sex. They never had the proper genitalia. They never had the developmental experience of being gay guy (which imo really separates the wheat from the chaff when it comes to trans people pretending to be gay).

[–]Eurowoman24 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same add to that a narc personality and having to constantly having to validate someone and that's no way to attract a partner.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I commented this elsewhere, but the accident thing gets me too, like how do you only lose your dick in an accident??? "honey... you know how we have that koi pond outside...?" Also, love the last three lines!

[–]8bitgay 33 insightful - 10 fun33 insightful - 9 fun34 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

Sometimes I think that the best reply might be agreeing with them 200%.

"Totally agree! Everyone that feels any discomfort related to genitals should seek treatment to stop caring about them."

Edit: or:

"I used to have genital preferences too, but now I got over it! I started dating transmen, now I'm bi!"

[–]insta 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a completely disingenuous argument so agreeing with them in a snarky way is probably the best.

Follow their argument along and always get them to say more & more and get them to be specific, they'll trip up eventually.

[–]Willpoll 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do people not understand that sexuality isn't fucking fluid?? Like people act like genital trauma or repulsion doesn't exist. it's so fucking infuriating

[–]Shadow_Lurker 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Like people act like genital trauma or repulsion doesn't exist.

It's even worse: they act like genitals have no functionality and are just aesthetic. It's like they are 13 year olds or something.

Just one little message to any FtM who may be lurking: gay men don't like PiV sex, accept it and move on. Also, you dildoes aren't real penises.

[–]Rosefield 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For them it's all just bigotry because they are narcissists addicted to attention & ass kissing. They simply DON'T care about the feelings of others. Trans narcs who pretend to be like actual homosexuals DON'T care about them. You can tell them over and over again that same sex attraction is innate and can't be changed - they will never ever give a fuck because all they are after is validation, validation, vakidation.

[–]Rosefield 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do what your trans overlords say and fix your homosexuality! Do it, transphobe!!1

This homophobic monster is openly stating that gay men are defective and need to be fixed.

[–]hunther 33 insightful - 7 fun33 insightful - 6 fun34 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

They want us to do internal work and fix ourselves, why can't they do that with their own gender

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 20 insightful - 13 fun20 insightful - 12 fun21 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

because that would be transphobic, duh.

[–]LasagnaRossa 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Because they tried oh so much but it doesn't work, duh!

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 24 insightful - 11 fun24 insightful - 10 fun25 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

The woman who wrote this idiotic tweet "Wes" looks like any ordinary hipster woman. She's basic and boring, and should go validate herself.

[–]nautilistic 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How about these people do the internal work and just accept they're non-gender-role conforming women. There's nothing wrong with that. By going trans they reduce the notions of what a man or woman can be.

How did we get here that "becoming the opposite" sex is less of a leap than just not confirming to gender roles.

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Self-acceptance is work and it takes time, nobody wants to do that anymore. Going trans to like yourself is the mental health equivalent of doing crash diets and dodgy Ukrainian amphetamines to lose weight.

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would anybody have believed us if we said 10 years ago that an ideological movement would latch onto the LGB cause, only to be outright homophobic towards LGB people and have their new-age homophobia celebrated?

[–]insta 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's been loads of radicalization over the past 10-15 years.

I think drag kids is another good example of this. Child abuse has just been mainstreamed in gay drag culture. Super depressing to see.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Child exploitation truly is mainstream now. Also YouTube families not allowing their kids any privacy to varying degrees of horrifying. And this all followed TV show reality star kids. It was always a red flag to me when someone was obsessed with consuming that stuff. In doing so, they’re failing to see the personhood of those kids who do not have the capacity to give up their privacy and childhoods like that. This is way worse than child actors who are at least playing characters and not having their own lives scrutinized as much when they are tiny children. These fan drones just think of them as characters though. They never think about the consequences or the parents’ motivations.

And I did not know about Jazz Jennings specifically until I hit peak trans. And I didn’t find out until months after that Jazz got famous from having a Reality TV Show for years. That right there was grooming the public. I had no idea about it but I don’t watch a lot of TV compared to most.

To read fluff pieces about Jazz’s botched genital surgeries is truly unreal. Like they’re reporting the most horrifying information but in the most Pollyanna/dismissively cheerful way. What a dystopia we live in.

As an aside: That’s why we need to not use bullshit language like bottom and top surgery or even facial feminization surgery. It’s genital surgery, elective double mastectomies, breast implants, cosmetic surgery, facial fillers, lip injections, tracheal shaves, jaw shaving, nose jobs, hair transplants, cheek implants, brow shaves, brow lifts, vocal chord surgery, etc.

I hate when people show pictures of males who got massive amounts of cosmetic surgery to resemble women and the after pictures are used to indicate that they really are women. People need to know what goes into this. Like why aren’t they getting the Heidi Montag treatment who was ridiculed for getting even less plastic surgery? And she was at least honest about it!

[–]our_team_is_winning 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I got a bot warning that my language was verboten. Not even sure what word I said that triggered it! Trying again:

So she's back to that word "preference," but when Amy Coney Barrett (did I get it right? I thought only serial killers had three names. ha! insert joke here) -- when she said it, people freaked out.

Why can't the transgendered (I hope that word is ok?) people understand same-sex attraction is attraction to one's own sex, which is immutable.

Chopping your hair and breasts off and not wearing makeup does NOT make you a man. Having breast implants and wearing makeup does NOT make you a woman. Why are we still having this conversation?

[–]fuck_reddit 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whatever happened to the breast cancer ad campaign that basically said having a double mastectomy does not impact a woman's womanhood in any way? I think that's a fairly relevant point to this issue... What makes a woman a woman is not any single trait, but the potential to develop all the primary and secondary sex characteristics.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Chopping your hair and breasts off and not wearing makeup does NOT make you a man. Having breast implants and wearing makeup does NOT make you a woman."

This, so much. They're literally reinforcing ages old gender stereotypes because it's the only way they have half a chance at "passing". I have short hair and never wear makeup, still a woman.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think the first step to Wes confronting 'his' societally influenced dysphoria, internalized misogyny, and narcissism is recognizing it for what it is. No excuses. No cognitive dissonance. Just "I'm female and will never be a man. I'm a narcissist, a homophobe, I support conversion therapy, I'm a rape apologist and I need to fix that." That being said, it's all mostly internal work.

There, i fixed it.

[–]fuck_reddit 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I keep getting told I need to "fix" rather small and innate aspects of myself like my sexuality, but boy, if I try and tell them they need to "work" on their rampant mental health issues...

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sooo what about sexual reactions to biological chemistry, like finding scents attractive or not? Is that "transphobic" too? What if I just don't like you?

I don't find 99.9% of males attractive anyway, does that make me sexist? If no, why not?

[–]purrvana 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

(Sing in the tune of "Everything is Awesome" by Tegan and Sara):

Everything's Transphobic. Everything's Transphobic when you're part of LGB...

Actually, scratch that. Tegan and Sara said TERFs can fuck off. sigh.

[–]lostinreverieMy ovaries are transphobic 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Ugh, did they? Thanks for the heads up.

[–]purrvana 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Here's their tweet

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then Tegan & Sara can fuck off!

[–]chz_g0d 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think the problem came when these brats stopped taking a "flat out no" for an answer and started responding with, "why dont u want to date us?". They dont like the responses they get even though they are usually valid and reasonable. The thing is, no one has a right to your body or time. Farting your inclusive dissertations on twitter will not make a same sex attracted person more likely to sleep with u. Some hetero guy will gladly play make pretend with her in bed but she'll never get the relationship depicted in her fanfics. If it wasnt damaging to LGB men and women I would pity her but i dont. Also, no one can explain to me why they wont date eachother, "since genitals dont matter"?

[–]strawberrycake 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If we’re supposed to force ourselves to like your genitals then accept your own damn body first, for fuck’s sake.

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