Mirrors are transphobic now.

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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 40 insightful - 10 fun40 insightful - 9 fun41 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

'Non-binary' people can honestly just fuck off.

[–]chandra 36 insightful - 10 fun36 insightful - 9 fun37 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously, it's so stupid that we're expected to respect this youth subculture as a serious human rights thing. Non-binaries are just today's goths and emos. Imagine making public policy to avoid triggering goths: this is the same thing.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes

[–]JulienMayfair 28 insightful - 14 fun28 insightful - 13 fun29 insightful - 14 fun -  (1 child)

So . . . to accommodate trans people, we have to decorate our gyms in the style of a 19th C. home in mourning with all the mirrors covered with black cloth.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 15 insightful - 11 fun15 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Trans(ylvanian) Vamps Approve!

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Plenty of people suffer from body image issues, myself included. Why is only for gender specials that the world must to change to ease their feelings?

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are beautiful, tho~

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So are you

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's the most beautiful woman I ever met in my life.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 24 insightful - 9 fun24 insightful - 8 fun25 insightful - 9 fun -  (3 children)

So we're supposed to avoid "scrutinizing" trans people? I guess we're all supposed to stay at home so that trans people can wander around outside without fear of being triggered.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe that's what the lockdown was actually for? To allow transpeople and non-binaries to gallivant around without those pesky cispeople scrutinising and misgendering them.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 16 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

But this article would suggest that lockdown is bad for transpeople and the non-binary, because if a tree is trans in the forest and nobody is around to validate it, is it even valid? (Hint: It's not)

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing is ever good enough for them, is it?

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 24 insightful - 6 fun24 insightful - 5 fun25 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

"Previous research by Stonewall, which campaigns for lesbian, gay, bi and trans equality, found [...]"

Fixed it.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hm, maybe I should made a post tomorrow about it. In last Stonewall and GLAAD yearly reports they mendioned lesbians zero times, lol.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I keep mentioning that I have a mental disorder, but I feel like it equates to having a disorder such as gender dysphoria somewhat. During certain times I struggle with mirrors and looking at myself and I know of many people with my condition or similar do as well. But are we asking to shift the world around us to accomodate us? NO. Because in the end, it does more harm than good. Everyone that is not neurotypical or different from the norm should respect social conventions, especifically the ones that are harmless such as having mirrors in public places!
My goal is to function as a member of society. I acknowledge my struggles, I am open about it but I strive to heal and not harm the people around me just because of my internal issues.
I think this is so important to understand, and the reason why I respect people with gender dysphoria who are self-aware adults just trying to live their life. They need help, not this toxic self indulgent bullshit.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have that same mental disorder. Is it body dysmorphia? Because I do have that.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have BPD (borderline personality disorder), which also has made me struggle with a bunch of things such as substance abuse, eating disorders, self-harm, etc. It might be different from body dysmorphia, but it really makes you want to smash mirrors when you look at yourself.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm autistic and I completely agree that the world shouldn't have to exhaustively accommodate for my needs. I'm aware that I struggle, and even more so since I have barely told anyone I know due to stigma and pre-conceived notions about my condition. However, it wouldn't be fair nor right to force others to think and speak the way I do so that I feel comfortable, because then that would make others suffer as I have. It's all about reaching a reasonable compromise, not a complete oppression of people who seemingly have it easier. Acknowledge and make things easier for others different from you, without encroaching on the rights of others. Covering up mirrors encroaches on the rights of those who want and need those mirrors, having an accessibility toilet hurts no-one and helps those who need it.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Couldn't have said it better myself. People like us should support each other without bringing everyone else down. We just deserve basic kindness and respect, not to be coddled and kept in a crystal box. Sending much love your way x

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You too x

[–]GConly 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

allowing loose clothing to be worn in public pools, which is banned in many venues,

Yeah, fibres drift off the clothes and bugger up the filters.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not to mention there's a reason why people swim in swimsuits. Unless you're just messing around in the water, you're not going to swim well in loose clothing that will only drag you down in the water.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That made me think of this https://youtu.be/xH7kKnHpgus

[–]pacsatonifil 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Crazy people would benefit from a reflection of their own physical image, wow intriguing findings

[–]julesburm1891 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

especially in women-only facilities where non-binary and trans women feel pressured to look feminine, such as wearing form-fitting sports clothing or make-up

  1. Isn’t transwomen’s whole thing pretending to look feminine? And now they’re mad about it?
  2. Having gone to the gym for the past 15 years and only ever worn running shorts and t-shirts, I can confirm it’s a pretty normal thing that a lot of women do. No one is judging you for not coming in full spandex.
  3. Who the actual fuck is wearing makeup to the gym? Sorority girls who are using the college rec as a social outing. That’s who. No one actually going to run, swim, lift, whatever is piling on foundation. And absolutely no one gives a fuck if you don’t have on makeup.
  4. This whole article is as absurd as if I wrote a piece complaining that clubs don’t cater to introverts like myself. Sometimes, if you want to participate, you have to get over your shit and not expect the entire world to accommodate you.
  5. Why on earth is this being framed as and lgbtq issue? It really seems like a t issue.

[–]chandra 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Isn’t transwomen’s whole thing pretending to look feminine? And now they’re mad about it?

Now now, that would be gatekeeping. Trans activists today have realised that any concept of womanhood that's based on physical appearance would end up excluding some males and so, since exclusion is the ultimate sin, they've completely untethered the concept of womanhood from anything that can actually be observed.

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transwomen know the only actual requirements for womanhood and lesbianism, respectively, are “be an adult female” and “be a homosexual female.” They also seem to get that they’ll never fulfill these definitions, so they try to abstract and redefine womanhood and lesbianism to nebulous, quasi-spiritual terms that they can weasel into. (God be damned if these new terms exclude women and lesbians!)

Which really seems like how we’ve gotten to the nonsense of “transwomen face prejudice at the gym because they’re pressured to wear makeup and spandex.” Anyone who’s ever been to a gym knows this is bollocks. The only reason transwomen face “prejudice” is because they’re a man in the women’s locker room that everyone else sees and understands as a man.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This whole article is as absurd as if I wrote a piece complaining that clubs don’t cater to introverts like myself. Sometimes, if you want to participate, you have to get over your shit and not expect the entire world to accommodate you.

Mood. This is exactly it. How many of us suffer from mental conditions, and yet we all know as responsible adults that priority #1 is getting yourself to be a functional member of society, not reshaping society to the detriment of everyone else to enable the worst aspects of your condition.

Imagine what this world and the entertainment and fashion industries would look like if people with eating disorders were thought of and treated in the same way by the media as trans people. No one is paying for their lipo and they still live in a world where gossip mags cheer on celebrities who “lost 40 pounds, regained their pre-baby body, and got toned abs” 30 days after giving birth.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The only reason why they'd wear makeup to the gym is that they'd look like gargoyles otherwise. Women who don't wear makeup still look like women, men don't look like women unless they wear makeup, and even that's debatable.

[–]julesburm1891 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just think the opposite is going on from what’s being said.

Traditionally female things like makeup are how transwomen attempt to signal that they’re a woman. When people see this they generally just politely play along.

Women don’t actually wear makeup or much of anything else traditionally feminine at the gym.

transwomen have no way to signal they’re “one of the girls” in this setting and get that they just look like dudes that people have no reason to politely pretend with

transwomen scream that they’re expected to be feminine to throw a smoke bomb about the obvious issue

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm afraid I called it two months ago in a comment I made here that 'MIRRORS ARE TRANSPHOBIC.'

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7c3h/medical_school_suspends_study_that_would_have/ropc

[–]julesburm1891 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I am deceased.

[–]censorshipment 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

🙌🏾 MVP

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Is there something in the water in Scotland? They've gone insane.

[–]oatcake 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The SNP leadership are far more interested in TRA stuff than, yknow, independence. The party has been captured.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've had body dysmorphia since puberty. I started researching gender ideology partly because I recognized the parallels between descriptions of gender dysphoria and my own experience.

This article just proves it. Gender dysphoria is the same pathology as body dysmorphia, and we are normalizing it and entrenching it in the culture. This could not be more unhealthy.

Mirrors and photographs have been the bane of my existence my whole life. They trigger a really strong revulsion which, if I were growing up with the language of gender ideology, I would probably characterize as 'dysphoria'. However, I recognize that what I feel is a me problem, not an 'everyone else' problem. I don't expect the rest of society to accomodate me and I recognize that doing so would ultimately make me feel worse, not better. This is a maladjusted coping mechanism on a societal scale, and it will only hurt people.

As for the rest of the article discussing non-binary and trans people facing exclusion, well fuck, they're the ones who chose to exclude themselves from their natal sex. They want back in whenever and wherever it suits them, regardless of the consequences to others? No, they can fuck off.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

OMFG. The whole world needs to change to cater to the mental illness and personality disorders of the TRAgedies.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAgedies

Dang, this is as good as "transplaining."

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I once found a blog post of someone fed up with this nonsense and they made a list of everything so far that was deemed transphobic and it had things like a candy bar, beer, a building... it was hilarious and i wish i could find it again

[–]DiscoStegosaurus 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Well that’s not fair. They don’t have to look at themselves, but we still have to look at them? I don’t want to see them either. I say add more mirrors everywhere. Maybe they’ll fuck off to their “safe space” and leave facilities to normal people. One can dream, anyways.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to see them because they are identifiable as simpering, tedious, haughty narcissists by how they look, not just how they act, so it's like having to look at personality disorders, not just deal with them. They have a type and they are proud of it. On the other hand, being able to ID most of them on sight is pretty handy. Just also unpleasant.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I say add more mirrors everywhere.

This needs to become a mainstream Architectural trend.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there something in the water in Scotland? They've gone insane.

[–]dreamgermsbisexual nightmare 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I will never for the life of me understand why society continues to cater to the whims of trans people and encourage all of their absurd navel-gazing. I’m sure people with body dysmorphic disorder or an eating disorder would feel triggered by full length mirrors or having to wear tight swimsuits in public or similar issues to the ones addressed in this article. Why are all of them supposed to just suffer through and toughen up? I’d suspect nearly every person on the planet feels uncomfortable to varying degrees in locker rooms, all for their own reasons – why aren’t their “needs” addressed? Why do so many people and groups coddle trans people beyond any and all reasonable measures? It seems like anything that makes any trans person even slightly uncomfortable is immediately made into a human rights issue. Why the fuck are the rest of us expected to grin and bear it, but not them?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Came here to say this. I wanted to add something but you hit the nail on the head. It's the narcissism. They don't understand that the majority of the world has the same struggles they do, but they think they're special, they think their struggles are the only ones that matter. And now that companies + big pharma has realized trans pandering is a great way to get fake woke points and make money, their narcissism is being rewarded. It's insane.