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[–]JulienMayfair 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

. . . and we used to roll our eyes at college undergrads who called themselves bisexual for a semester or two. Now that seems like the good old days.

[–]Finnegan7921 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

haha, LUGs and BUGs.....

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, I knew people like that in college, too! Great to know some things never change. Lol.

[–]HelloMomo 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I worked at a girl's summer camp for a month this year. One day we had a carnival, and there was a face painting booth, and pretty soon there were kids running with with all sorts of tumblr flags on their cheeks. The oldest were like 14. The youngest were 7 or 8. Most the tomboys had NB flags. Lotta pan flags. Some bi and gay flags, and the pink lesbian one. One was running around with a flag cape.

It was uncomfortable, but at the same time, I think it's definitely easy to overreact. Kids playing at being adults is as old as time, and it's ok. When I was in elementary school, kids had crushes, "date" (play tetherball exclusively with each other, bring each other gifts, and then dramatically break up a week later).

We also had an incident with 2 of the oldest girls, who were suspected were maybe a couple, and apparently that wasn't allowed at camp, and I also felt uncomfortable with that. As long as there wasn't PDA, sneaking out at night, or anything (and there was no indication of any of that) then I didn't see anything wrong with it, and "my first love was at summer camp when I was a teenager" feels like a very cute, classic, in many ways old-school story.

I guess to me, it came down to the difference between a kid privately thinking of themselves as bi, or telling some friends, and literally writing it across their face, advertising it for everyone to see. When I was a kid, at least, who you had a crush on was highly confidential info, only to be shared with your closest friends. It's not something you paint across your face for everyone to see. So clearly this wasn't about who they have crushes on: it's about social identity, it's a game, it's a way to be edgy or whatever.

I often said of those kids, "I just want to wash the internet right out of them."

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kids don't understand anything. They just hear about something fun or broadly "good" for whatever reasons they don't know and want to be it because they want to have fun and be good. If you tell them being a serial killer meant going around and making people happy, then they'd say they want to be a serial killer while having no idea what it actually means.

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    [–]7874 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Just because you want a sexual partner doesn't mean you should have one, and it definitely doesn't mean you're mature enough to understand what that means and the potential consequences of a sexual relationship, especially at such a young age where even if you've been through puberty, many of your peers are prepubertal and attempting to penetrate a prepubertal girl is akin to torture. Some kids that age are feeling sexual arousal and for some it's still too early.

    And "polyamorous" isn't a biological identity like being homosexual. Feeling attraction to multiple people at once is normal.

    And I've been trying to be neutral, but you honestly burned my eyes. Your maternal great-grandmother had your grandmother at 14, meaning she was most likely pregnant at 13. The thought of that makes me sick. It's extremely easy for kids that age to die from pregnancy because their bodies aren't ready for childbirth; even though they've been through puberty, they're still growing at that age.

    Girls hitting puberty so early is likely not even natural and a consequence of estrogen (from animal agriculture) in the water supply.

    Every single whim shouldn't be indulged, especially when the whims are sexual and the people are children.

    [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thank you, that previous comment was very, very creepy.

    No, 10-14 year olds shouldn't have sex. Ever. There, I said it. Lock me up now for repressing their baby kink. BARF.

    "Don't worry, another stupid kid is trying to fuck your kid." Somehow that's not much better than an adult doing it except the adult should know better. A "kid" can still give my kid an std or get her pregnant. Or ya know, RAPE her.

    Just fucking gross all around.

    [–]our_team_is_winning 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    California law (and other places)

    SB 145 would eliminate automatic sex offender registration for young adults who have anal or oral sex with a minor. Instead, a judge would make the decision, just as they do now in cases involving vaginal intercourse.

    This bill does not change the fact that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor. SB 145 was meant to affect cases where the minor is a teenager between ages 14 to 17, and the offender, an adult, within a 10-year age range.

    Within a 10 year age range! So 24 and 14 ??

    Our favorite asshole legislator:

    The bill's author, State Senator Scott Wiener, said the controversy over SB 145 was based on people's misunderstanding of the changes and some lies about it.

    Then he had the nerve to claim it was to protect gay people. Totally doesn't make it sound like men 24 are having sex with boys 14, does it?

    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/politics/newsom-controversial-sb-145-new-law/103-238a7155-93a3-4f30-9daf-5d277d7ac91e

    [–]our_team_is_winning 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    attempting to penetrate a prepubertal girl is akin to torture

    Men don't seem to grasp that at all. I think of all the Muslim men with their child brides entering Europe. The PAIN.

    Glad you wrote all that. What good comes of children having sex, smoking, drinking alcohol, etc.? I knew tons of people who did, beginning ages 12-14 (in the early 80s). Nothing like comforting your 14 year old friend through her pregnancy scare :( That was pre-AIDS too. I thought that post-AIDS more education was encouraging people to hold off or at least use condoms. Guess not.

    [–]kwallio 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I mean thats just you tho? No one in my 6th grade class had a bf or a gf, let alone doing sexual activity. (unless they were being molested by a relative which I certainly was). But the kids were not doing it to each other.

    [–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think she's saying the attractions are still there naturally even though adults are usually in complete denial about such things. I mean, no one should be having sex at that age, but some vocabulary should still exist then to allow one to express these attractions without it automatically being attributed to abuse(much more common with SSA than OSA). It reminds me a bit of this comment.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Eh... I mean, I agree with you, but I think that might be an overly generous interpretation of the original comment. (I went and found it after it was removed)

    [–]DimDroog 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    My god, this is not right.

    They were children, not women, and it's not right that that happened to them.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    Update:

    Sexualizing children is against the TOS of SaidIt. There is a line between expressing your experience as a child with sexualization, and promoting it. Your comment crossed that line, and the removal stands.