Indoctrination / DoublethinkFellas, is it queer to support science?

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[–]julesburm1891 34 insightful - 10 fun34 insightful - 9 fun35 insightful - 10 fun -  (3 children)

Ways to know if you’re in a cult: you have to question if you can say science is real.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You have to ask permission to believe in things. This person is literally crowdsourcing their opinions. I've seen this elsewhere, as in "guys, is this transphobic? I can't tell"

[–]julesburm1891 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What cracks me up is you know everyone in that thread hates religion because “it denies science and keeps people from thinking for themselves.” There’s zero self-awareness that they belong to one of the most fundamentalist religions currently in existence.

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, exactly!!! So ironic to see this behavior out in full force, when I used to witness the exact same thing among extremely dogmatic Christians, for example.

In a way, I'm a little bit glad that I grew up in a religion, just so that I could know what red flags to watch out for as an adult...

[–]SilverWolf 33 insightful - 5 fun33 insightful - 4 fun34 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Wow, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They really admitted that supporting women's rights and believing science makes you a terf.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If TERFs are in support of women and science and that is what makes them against the T, then what does the T support and oppose? I try to imagine that nuance exists in the world, but they got rid of any room for it when they said, "Oh, no! It says to support science, that must mean they hate us"

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just more supporting evidence that this is a religion.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"This doesn't mean applying science to gender woo-woo, right? Trans is safely exempt?"

What's especially telling is... they seem aware that it NEEDS to be. That "trans" and science are like oil and water: they don't mix.

So... why are they still supporting what they apparently concede is incompatible with science (i.e., reality)?

[–]MBMayfair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oooo, that is a really good point, Pensee! Nice catch.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you! I'm continually looking for weak points in the transgenderist movement, you know? Of course the entire thing is clearly bunk, but we need as many telling critiques as possible, I think. So that either the cumulative effect brings them down... or we find the equivalent of that exhaust vent on the Death Star, and can fire a torpedo of devastating logic into it :)

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's not so much an exhaust vent as a massive gaping hole that has a bunch of neon signs pointing at it.

[–]kwallio 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Apparently its against their religion to think for yourself.

[–]strawberrycake 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is definitely a secular religion as someone who used to believe in this BS. That’s why this ideology easily became a social contagion.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Secular Religion is an oxymoron. They fancy themselves secular and rational, but they are not.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Science is real but only for the things I advocate for

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would seeing science is real and women's rights on the same poster make you think TERF? Is it because you people accuse everyone who supports science and women's rights of being TERFs?

[–]Socialjustus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So they know they're anti-science then?

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh my fucking god lol. Yet another reason why I absolutely refuse to call myself q*eer.

When did such a large swath of political liberals start being anti-science?? The hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking here is astounding. If these people are only going to accept science as legitimate when it agrees with their beliefs, then they're no different from the anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers.

edit: clarifying phrasing