Indoctrination / DoublethinkOur Cult

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The concept of “deadnaming” and the need to scrub and re-write history is one of the most on-the-nose concepts pulled straight out of George Orwell’s 1984. You want to change your name? Fine. But Caitlin Jenner didn’t win an Olympic gold medal in the men’s Decathalon. Caitlin Jenner posed on the cover of a magazine in lingerie and filmed for a tv news program their first time wearing a women’s bathing suit. Likewise, Elliot Page didn’t come out as a lesbian, complain about homophobia directed at her for being a lesbian, or play a pregnant teenager. Ellen Page did. Elliot Page got a double mastectomy. None of these things make any sense if you erase their history. Is this who they want to be going forward? Fine, if it truly makes them happy (though with Page I’m less convinced about that). But you cannot erase your past. No one can. That’s not a civil right. And it is dangerous to present this as a simple ask when the dangerous consequences are so obvious.

[–]HelloMomo 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The concept of “deadnaming” and the need to scrub and re-write history is one of the most on-the-nose concepts pulled straight out of George Orwell’s 1984.

It brings to mind the photoshopped images in the Soviet Union where people have been deleted

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

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Say you were talking about Bob and you used Bob's deadname? Well, that could expose information about Bob's previous identity that isn't yours to disclose.

What, is Bob a felon? Whatever info about his "previous identity"(aka facts about himself like his actual sex) Bob is trying to hide with a name change was already public knowledge until he up and decided that no one knew it after all, and suddenly everyone around him had to pretend they didn't know what they already knew for years, since having others denying well established facts about him was somehow his right(because real rights work exactly like that). Does Bob realize what an imposition that is and no one should be required to do it? Only if they personally choose to? This also applies to the pronoun stuff.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not like this "previous identity" isn't almost always available in some way or another. Usually it's a bright shining red neon flag of uncanny-valley mismatch of physical features. But even in the best case scenarios there are subtle tells (e.g. google-image Christine McConnell - passes well but her face is still relatively masculine, and it's more obvious in the rare photos with other people).

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Their face is unmistakably male and the body proportions are a dead giveaway especially in shots like these.

But god forbid a person ever notice these things.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And yet this is the top percentile of passing. 99% of the time you will even be easier to clock.

But sure, "there's no difference" and you're twansfobique if you aren't interested.