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[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Notice how opportune this is for globohomo. Instead of getting their remaining people out, the bombing can effectively serve as an excuse for attempting to delay ('we've been interrupted, we need more time!') as well as an excuse for taking more Afghans with them ('See! There really is a threat! So we must take more Afghans!). Two birds with one stone. The Islamic State, who I've barely heard anything about in two years, suddenly seem to be wheeled out yet again right on time to serve a role as a bogeyman to justify staying longer and taking more people.

Indeed, I can't even figure out what Islamic State's Wilayat Khorasan branch would do this for, as it doesn't seem to benefit them in any obvious way at all. Surely they understand that it will at the very least encourage the West to stay longer, and at most, it may lead Western states to overcome their general aversion to war and decide that they need to re-enter for some time. What's the word for things like this? 'False flag' is one. How about 'gay op'?

I guess the closest explanation I can come up with is that maybe they know that those trying to flee tend towards being the worst type of Afghans (trannies, queers, feminists) and they want to get as many of these people as they can before they escape to the West where they'll be beyond reach. Either way, Afghanistan (part of Wilayat Khorasan in IS' terminology) would be rid of them whether they were killed or not, and it seems like letting them fly away is less risky. They believe that Allah will cast them all eventually into Hell anyway, so it does not make much sense to take such a large risk just to send them there sooner.

There's essentially a nationalist Islamism against a colourblind globalist Jihadism clash here. Islamic State is extreme-Left on race (I read recently that they burned all books in Mosul University back in 2014-16 that contained mentions of race or ethnicity, although such works weren't their only targets), whereas the Taliban are essentially "Pashtun First".

I'll be paying attention to how the Taliban change the education system in Afghanistan. They definitely have a 'Gender Studies' program in Kabul University (see:, and I'm sure that it will be one of those fields abolished and everyone involved in propagating it in serious trouble. Good riddance. Islamic State removed almost all of higher education excepting a few hard science fields like chemistry (in Mosul University, they tried to turn the chemistry faculty into a chemical weapons production plant) at the universities they controlled in Iraq/Syria. The Humanities and Social Sciences were basically abolished with the obvious exception of Islamic Studies. Most of those fields are certainly no loss—'Gender Studies', 'Black Studies' and 'Indigenous Studies' are clearly unscientific, are not accepted as sciences even in today's Clown World, and should be axed everywhere. The rest of the Social Sciences and Humanities also need a serious clean-up. If you've ever studied Sociology you'll know the whole field has shifted from Far-Right to Far-Left over the course of its 170 or so years of existence.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Theres no indication that the U.S. will stay beyond its stated deadline. Not yet, anyway.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't heard of anything yet either, but this provides all Western countries currently there—not just Americans—with a golden opportunity to make a case for staying, particularly with the Western media putting a huge amount of attention on this bombing right now.

Now, I don't think they'll stay either, because I don't think the new Taliban rulers want them there. They want the West out, and then they need to eliminate both the non-Pashtun "National Resistance Front" rebels up north along the Tajik border and Jihadist opponents. The rebels appear to be supported by the Indian media which is exaggerating their accomplishments, just as the collapsing government was supported by India donating large amounts of equipment, all of which was swiftly abandoned and now belongs to the Taliban (or Iran, with plenty of troops fleeing across the Iranian border), but they look like they'll be crushed soon. It is said that the Chinese media is already praising the Taliban, thus taking the opposite side of the Indian media.

So all I can see happening is either:

  • A sudden invasion threat is made, which leads the Taliban rulers to extend the deadline because they know they would swiftly lose what they've spent two decades trying to regain if they refused, or;

  • A bungled evacuation with some people who were supposed to be evacuated literally left behind. I think this will be the likely outcome past August 31.

I've also heard that the US and the Taliban are sharing information to fight Islamic State. Could be just a wild theory doing the rounds.

The POS Biden is currently blowing hot air over the dead Americans. "We will not forgive. We will not forget." Yeah, whatever, Joe. Did he learn that one from Anonymous?

[–]scormac1752 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And guess where all these evacuated Afghanis are going? That's right, your country!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

signed up, knew the risks

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Including the potential that Americans would remember them with statements like, "Marines die in the gayest way possible"....(?)

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That's not a risk you idiot and if more soldiers had access to the info we do and understood that they were risking their lives for absolutely nothing then we'd have less wars and less dead soldiers not more. We're their friends not phony creeps like you who want them half way across the world dying to 'make life better for the Afghanis'.

You're actually sickening when you do this phony 'support the troops' lie and your reasons are transparent.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Especially so.

[–]GST893 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

US Federal Administrations and the CIA - Creating, training, arming and supplying terrorist organizations since 1953.

[–]Touchngo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

bUt ThE tAlIbAn Is SuPoSeD tO pRoTeCt Us!

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Does anyone here have sympathy for these soldiers? Within a year of invasion, we knew the mission in Afghanistan was over--Bin Laden escaped to Pakistan and the Taliban was all but defeated yet, the war continued. The mission in Iraq was also bullshit because weapons of mass destruction did not exist. However, even with ALL of this PUBLIC information, Americans continued to sign up for the military and many of those signed up because they wanted to deploy in the Sandbox. That means these people signed up to go slaughter innocent Afghani and Iraqi civilians--what other reason could they have? Does an economic opportunity provide a valid excuse for those who signed up voluntarily to slaughter innocent people (GI Bill, etc)? In my opinion, because the information about these wars was wide-spread and PUBLIC--everyone who signed up to serve in these wars is complicent in this debacle and deserving of ZERO sympathy.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Young working class men are always going to volunteer to fight, especially when they’re subjected to sophisticated propaganda from birth.

Save the hated for those who engineered this situation.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)


[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

There's plenty of real info available to make an informed decision. Ignorance is not a valid excuse.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you’re expecting the masses to make informed decisions based on their own research, then you’re going to be forever disappointed. That’s just not how most humans (especially high trust, conforming societies like Europe) evolved. It’s a great trait to have when your leaders are good people, but devastating when they’re a hostile foreign entity.

The only people to blame are the enemy, and ourselves for not trying harder

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There's plenty of real info available to make an informed decision.

None of which you've referenced or - apparently - considered

Ignorance is not a valid excuse.

Indeed. Take your own advice.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ignorance is not a valid excuse.

Indeed. Take your own advice.

WIKIPEDIA boy saying this to me... lmfao!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Again - ignorance is not a valid excuse. (You can check the sources at Wikipedia and elsewhere.)

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I am literally counting the hours. I estimate 3-4 hours and you'll be gone.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm surprised you know how to count.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No one will miss you when you're gone so you better do as much trolling as you can during the very-limited time you have left.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Should they miss me?

WTF do you think motivates anyone to post a comment at Saidit? Is it so that you'll have fans talk about how awesome you are? Is that your motivation?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes I definitely have sympathy for soldiers but none for the officers or politicians. Most of the effective core of the army are young working class whites who have very little options and see the army as a way to learn a trade, get an education and serve their country. In a perfect world these young men would be doing honourable service for their country like most of their ancestors have. I don't blame them at all I blame a system that leaves them few other options. I definitely would tell any young man NOT to join the armed forces because like we say they will just be fighting ZOG wars for women's rights, Israel and homosexuality but many just don't know that.

That being said many on the DR are former soldiers who realised we are right because of their experiences in the armed forces.

[–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty grim.

Sailer's post and the Unz thread is worth reading:

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (168 children)

Oh - let's see what's on Saidit today...

Top post in /r/all is this

Can anyone explain why this is not among the cruelest responses to the sacrifices of those Marines, as well as Afghans? (Perhaps this way of thinking was one reason M7 removed DAR from /r/all? This post mirrors the opinions of ISIS members.)

[–]block_socks 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (48 children)

Oh boy, look who decided to resort to a pseudo-patriotic faux-outrage today! I bet anything if those dead Marines were found to be Republicans you wouldn't be sperging out like this. No way, you'd be cheering!

Your attempts to get this off s/all aren't going to take off. This post has 9 insightfuls and 2 using 'fun' either as an alternative upvote or as a downvote. In other words, few or perhaps nobody agrees with your stupid view about this post. That is, of course, why you are drawing attention to it—hoping that a faux-outrage will lead to the moderators taking action against this sub more generally. It is the same reason why you sperged out real good when you were banned for less than a day from here.

Here's the best thing any reader can do today: block socks. If you hate Redditors, well, this guy has been one for many years. It is the single best thing you can do on this site.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (44 children)

Every single liberal shit stain has all of a sudden become a 'thank you for your service' bush era type republican now complete with the empty jingoism. It's driving me fucking mental. It's so sickening and cynical.

[–]block_socks 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yep. His goal is simply to try to get this sub off of s/all and preferably banned. This is why he has to raise these faux-outrages, similar to how he wrote a winding post when he was banned from this sub for less than a day. He was, of course, trying to get the admins to believe that this sub was not abiding by the rules required to remain on s/all. He seems like one of those AHS types trying to 'deplatform hate' or some nonsense. He will continue to do this bullshit with the aim of trying to deplatform the sub. I've obviously triggered him real good with his response below this. I mean just look at how angry he is! Probably because my comments land far too close to the truth.

It's just the tribalism in America. The Democrats have taken ownership of the same war that they used to call the result of 'Right-wing, Republican warmongers' or outright 'racists wanting excuses to bomb browns', because quitting it reminds them of the weak idiots they are. Now all of a sudden many of them defend the continuation of the same damn war. Luckily I don't think these people are going to win out in that regard.

It's no different to how they were all anti-vax until Biden was elected, when they suddenly and mindlessly flipped to being pro-vax. They flip their view on a wide range of issues based on who is in power and nothing else. If Trump was there right now and wanted to stay, they'd all be pro-withdrawal instead.

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is why he has to raise these faux-outrages, similar to how he wrote a winding post when he was banned from this sub for less than a day.

LOL, yeah, I remember that. Socks throwing a temper tantrum for his temporary suspension was pretty damn funny.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where did he post that? I'd love to read it.

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is it: DebateAltRight banned me, and this was my response

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brilliant. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you got all of that from my brief question? You sick, cowardly, dumbass.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Save that emotion for your phony sympathy for dead soldiers in Afghanistan.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's still not an explanation.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

No they've not - you fucking idiot.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

Watch your language, faggot. This is a family board. Also something about 'blah blah blah low on the pyramid' or whatever it is you usually babble when people just use insults without making an argument.

Don't be a hypocrite.

[–]GST893 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Ease up sock may be running low on hormone replacement pills. They get all bitchy when they haven't been able to dialate and feel like a "real"woman.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You're trying way too hard with this insult, homie

[–]GST893 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Sorry, I forgot that simply calling you retard would suffice.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Why is your memory so bad? Learning difficulties? Meanness? - to attempt to compensate for your inadequacies? Apology not accepted.

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

No apology intended. It's called sarcasm retard.

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    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Kill yourself.

    I have a feeling Socks is not long for this board

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    strike 1 for advocating violence. you will be banned on strike 3.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Sorry d3rr, I lost my patience yesterday. I won't complain if I'm banned from DAR or Saidit. I'm too old and cranky for some of the discussions here.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'll leave the DAR decision to them. Yes this is an intense sub.

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yup, this ESL retard is 100% Chicom troll.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Don't refer to my new friend, literalotherkin, in that manner!

    [–]GST893 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Agreed, socks along with actuallynot are two of the biggest pieces of shit on this site.

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    u/socks is the same faggot that was spreading lies about how Brian Sicknick died and refused to concede. See here:

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So - the 8-day alt account coward wants to offer criticism? Go fuck yourself, coward.

    resort to a pseudo-patriotic faux-outrage today!

    Not in the least. Dozens of people died; that's the problem. Not the schizophrenic disease in your head.

    Your attempts to get this off s/all aren't going to take off.

    Really? My post can do that? Think for a second how stupid your response is.

    This post has 9 insightfuls and 2 using 'fun'

    Do you know why people vote? (No - because your an idiot.)

    hoping that a faux-outrage will lead to the moderators taking action against this sub more generally.

    Moderators run the sub. Admins aren't worried about DAR, nor should they be. Another idiotic comment.

    you were banned for less than a day from here.

    How would a coward with an 8-day old account know this? Am I banned? You're as pathetic, cowardly and weak as you are stupid.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Cry harder about it bugman.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Great explanation. (You obviously haven't a clue.)

    [–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Those soldiers died in vain, and you know it, Socks. As a matter of fact, every single soldier and civilian who died in Afghanistan was in vain. It served no grand purpose at all. The war on terror was nothing more than an attempt to impose American hedgemony on the Middle East.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    The Marines and the allies have not died in vain, and have supported a better way of life for Afghanis for 20 years.

    A cynical response like, "Marines die in the gayest way possible" only adds insult to injury.

    We should have a critical thinking response to something like this, and the abuses of the Military Industrial Complex, which will continue unless there are protests &c.

    To see a cynical response at the top of Saidit is in my view one of the worst kinds of responses, especially because of the human cost of US and Israel aggression

    [–]GST893 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What's this "we" shit? Speak for yourself you fucking reddit troglodyte.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    "We" - as in EVERYONE - numbnuts.

    [–]GST893 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I understand the meaning of the word, retard. Just don't understand why limp wristed npc's like yourself think they speak for EVERYONE.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Did I speak for everyone? Why would you think that? I said:

    We should have a critical thinking response...

    (AKA: Everyone should have a critical thinking response. Don't be so quick to call others retards, genius.)

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    It's not cruel because it's true. These marines died so that American butt bandits could import afghani muslim freaks. This just isn't a nice reality.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    so that American butt bandits could import afghani muslim freaks

    No. (There's so much wrong with this that I wouldn't know where to start.)

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I think I remember you. Aren't u that faggot that was going around saidit claiming that Officer Sicknick was murdered by Trump rioters?

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think socks is ESL. Likely Chicom paid troll.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Why would that be me?

    Also: do you fantasize about Saiditors who you want to be faggots?

    (I don't think there are any faggots here, but you may indeed have found one or two.)

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yup, confirmed, it was you. I knew I recognized that username from somewhere.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Why is this important?

    [–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)


    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

    They sacrificed their lives for nothing. The blood is on the hands of the people who began the war. The people who began the war are nearly as sickening as the people crying crocodile tears now over the fate of the poor Afghanis and soldiers now. Where were they when the thousands of soldiers who have died in this God forsaken hell hole for no conceivable reason? Where were you? I'd Ike to see ONE post you've made weeping for the soldiers in Afghanistan or Iraq before today. The only kind response to this whole decades long disaster is complete withdrawal and only disgusting cynics are asking people to weep over this.

    The only kindness in war is a swift ending and that's what we're finally getting. If you think it's cruel to realize these soldiers died for nothing along with the thousands of others who died -- not to mention the Afghanis -- then go weep your eyes out with bill kristol, Lindsay Graham and Jenny Rubin.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    They sacrificed their lives for nothing

    Incorrect. And frankly that sickens me. Their lives were ours to spend as we saw fit regardless. That is what they signed up for. They are the tip of the spear. They do not decide EVER what they do. That is NOT EVER WHAT THEY DID.

    Did everyone suddenly go stupid today?

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    Have you had a stroke? More incoherent babble.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    No - his comments are crystal clear. He also wrote in short sentences so that others like you could potentially understand.

    Many in Afghanistan had better lives and opportunities in the past 20 years thanks to the Allied presence. The Trump Admin decision to abandon them and thus support the Taliban is what caused this escalation of violence. The Trump Admin's deep ties with Israel, Russia, Turkey, China, and Pakistan also prompted this withdrawal, which will directly benefit those countries. The Marines sacrificed themselves for Afghanis. They're heroes. It's that simple, regardless of one's anger about US geopolitics (though I doubt you care or have given this any serious thought.)

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I'm surprised that you are such a bootlicker.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Let me try to explain again in a way you might understand. They No Do That. Ugh.

    Does that make sense to you?

    They're marines, they're a weapon. You don't complain you used a finely honed weapon to shoot a bottle.


    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I mean... Maybe.... but I don't think so, I think it's way more likely you don't fully comprehend what I said. Don't sweat it, I'm used to it.

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      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Yeah obviously only total fucking retards actually want to be soldiers. If you want to make fun of them for anything make fun of them for that, and also all the many, many dudes who fuck their wife. And the 19% apr they're paying on their Corolla.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

      Thanks for the response - which at least offers some form of explanation.

      The problem is that - regardless of who started the war, who supported the war, and the many other circumstances of the war - the tragic deaths of people in the bombing has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any of it, nor does it warrant this: "Marines die in the gayest way possible." What explains that kind of comment? Nothing that I know of.

      Moreover - ISIS said they planted the bomb. Which countries supported ISIS in Syria and the region in recent years? Did you know that the US and Israel partially supported them with weapon supplies and that Isreal and Lebanon arranged for the purchase of priceless artefacts from them? Should ISIS be exterminated? Should those who support ISIS be exterminated? Should those who make comments like - Marines die in the gayest way possible - be exterminated? What do you think? I'm obviously wanting all of these people to be dealt with appropriately.

      The Marines and the allies have not died in vain, and have supported a better way of life for Afghanis for 20 years.

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

      Is this a troll or are you drunk? "The Marines and the allies have not died in vain, and have supported a better way of life for Afghanis for 20 years."

      That statement is factually untrue. The military industrial complex turned Afghanistan into one giant fucking grift. Every facet of the puppet government was rife with corruption/crime and that corruption spilled out into the general public and became the largest industry in the country. In addition, only a very small minority of Afghanis wanted to promote and legalize the values of Globohomo: homosexuality and transgenderism. I'm sure all the Afghani widows and orphans are really thankful the marines stayed for 20 years to create, "A better way of life for Afghanis."

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

      Yes - of course there were problems - which are unavoidable in that part of the world. The Allies were there for a relatively limited purpose. There were some benefits to their presence, which don't bear mentioning here, especially in light of your cherry-picking superfluous concerns like 'Globohomo' which isn't in the vocabulary or interest of most people, especially in Afghanistan. This topic of Middle East geopolitics is obviously not your specialism.

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

      There were some benefits to their presence, which don't bear mentioning here

      You decline naming those benefits because they don't exist.

      concerns like 'Globohomo' which isn't in the vocabulary or interest of most people, especially in Afghanistan

      That's right, our military mission was destined to fail once it switched from the destruction of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban to so-called, "Nation Building." As you said yourself, (I'll paraphrase) very few Afghanis have shared cultural interests with the West.

      This topic of Middle East geopolitics is obviously not your specialism.

      Are you ESL?

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

      Again - you've not bothered to check on your claims. Do you do this often - merely state whatever you want without any concern for the facts? If you use an internet search app to find the information, you'd know that the lives of women improved substantially in 20 years, and that your tax dollars paid for billions in reconstruction source. There were many additional benefits. And of course there were problems. That was not unexpected in that region. See also this.

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      WIKIPEDIA and Brookings Institute as sources! Oh my god you must be right! Why didn't I think to google the all-knowing and always right WIKIPEDIA and the totally not corporate paid-for Brookings Institute?

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      This guy really comes at it from all angles too. In a response to me earlier he was trying to appeal to the idea that Israel supports ISIS to gin up some type of outrage about the Kabul bombing and now with you he's citing brookings institute data -- one of the largest and most well funded neocon think tanks in America -- as evidence for the positive aspects of the Afghani war. Very slimy behaviour.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      So what? Check their sources or do your own search, if you're genuinely curious (though I doubt you are). I'm merely helping you with source material, which is probably a bad idea.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      You don't even recognize how much of a shill you are. It's like an alcoholic trying to explain why being an alcoholic isn't a bad thing.

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      "We Felt Safer Under The Taliban" - Say Kabul Residents

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      So you reference the most biased, extreme right-wing disinformation propaganda website available?

      Think for a second about your sources:

      [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      A fact-checker site! HAHAHAHAHA, You're a riot dude. thanks for the laugh.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Nice backpedal.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Who are you to say what this situation does or doesn't warrant? Your opinion is meaningless and anyone who is upset that others have the wrong emotional reaction to an event is usually, at least in my experience, someone who is being manipulative or a liar.

      Also dear me you actually think you're breaking news to anyone in the dissident right that ISIS was supported -- as are many other Sunni fanatics in the region-- by Israel and the us. I've only known that for the better part of a decade but thanks for the heads up. As for the rest of your comment it's incoherent gibberish.

      Say something worth responding to if you want a discussion.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      It's a simple question, asking for an explanation. Seems you can't offer one. Leave it at that.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Its a moronic question you silly goose. Do I think people who make a post like this should be 'exterminated'? That's the question you're actually asking me?

      Log off you sad freak.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's a really simple, straight-forward question, which many at DAR can easily answer

      [–]Alan_Crowe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      A better response would indict male disposability.

      Don't ask "Was it worth it?" in 2021.

      Do ask "Will it be worth it?" in 2001

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Do ask "Will it be worth it?" in 2001

      Yes - which applies to dozens of armed conflicts the US has joined in the past 150 years.

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Looks like a certain shill is very active here!

      [–]noseburp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Those citizens should have manned up 30 years ago. Their grave, they dug it.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The problem is that they've "manned up" for centuries source, at a cost of millions of lives, and in the past 30 years, hundreds of thousands of Afghanis died - directly or indirectly - from conflicts in Afghanistan. Could they have done more to expel the Taliban? Potentially, but the real answer is much more complicated.