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[–]chadwickofwv 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Holy shit! I thought the article was exaggerating like most of them, I was wrong. After reading the entirety of the EO I believe they downplayed how bad it is because nobody would believe them if they didn't. I wouldn't have, until I read the entire text.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your first impression was correct: the article takes the legal arguments out of context, while also claiming that this cancels the constitution. Leo Goldstein and similar radical Republican Zionists want the money laundering with Russia to continue, via several banks, including those in Israel, Germany, Cyprus, Switzerland, Cayman Islands, &c, as this allows Russians (among others) to join the pay-to-play political process in the US, whilst hiding the politician's money in offshore accounts, laundering the Russians' money, and influencing US policy, sanctions &c. Much of this will continue, regardless of the EO, as it continued under the corrupt Trump/McConnell admin to the tune of $billions. What's new is that those who are caught doing this can now be prosecuted by the AG.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How does this affect money laundering from Ukraine?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...Or money laundering from anywhere else that happens to be from a Russian source that is difficult to trace...

Much of this will continue

But what's important in this case is for previous sanctions to have some teeth (even it they're baby teeth for the wealthiest Russians). The Trump crime family assisted the Russians in numerous ways that should not have happened because of sanctions. The EO will restrict the money somewhat, which hits the Russian Oligarchs somewhat in the pocket, as they have to work around the new EO.

[–]StillLessons 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Read the EO itself; it's not very long. The headline is frighteningly accurate. TPTB are going for the brass ring. If not stopped shortly, we have a one-party state; individual rights are simply gone. Stroke of a pen, gone.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More "wrong-think" rules. It evens lists activities in foreign elections as actionable offences.

[–]StrategicTactic[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since a certain person seems to be downplaying the severity of this, here is it straight from https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/04/15/executive-order-on-blocking-property-with-respect-to-specified-harmful-foreign-activities-of-the-government-of-the-russian-federation/

Section 1. All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

(a)  any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, and, with respect to subsection (a)(ii) of this section, in consultation with the Attorney General, or by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, and, with respect to subsection (a)(ii) of this section, in consultation with the Attorney General:

      (ii)   to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged or attempted to engage in, any of the following for or on behalf of, or for the benefit of, directly or indirectly, the Government of the Russian Federation: 

          (B)  interference in a United States or other foreign government election;

          (C)  actions or policies that undermine democratic processes or institutions in the United States or abroad;   

      (v)    to be a spouse or adult child of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to subsection (a)(ii) or (iii) of this section;

     (vi)   to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of:

          (A)  any activity described in subsection (a)(ii) of this section; or

          (B)  any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or


Sec. 2.  The prohibitions in section 1 of this order include:

(a)  the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; and

(b)  the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.


Sec. 7.  For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual.  I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1 of this order.

Thus, if you have donated a can of beans to the spouse of someone who has denied the integrity of the 2020 election, you (and your spouse, and any adult kids) now qualify to have your property (money is property btw) seized, are unable to make any more transactions (like buy food), get donations, and can have all services (such as legal representation) restricted, without notice. Yes, that includes US citizens. That directly infringes on several amendments, notably the 1st (free speech), 4th (unreasonable seizure), 5th (due process), 6th (face your accuser), and 8th (cruel punishments and excessive fines). As far as legal arguments go, this is beyond indefensible, this could qualify as an assault on the Bill of Rights itself.

[–]CANDYASSES 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this EO is the most dangerous of them all. It allows the Biden regime to eliminate its opposition, quickly and quietly.

since i was a young lad, it has been my dream to be the commandante of my very own death camp.

one must have goals and dreams.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

American "Thinker" is now nominated for /s/ShitpostNews, here.