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[–]chottohen 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's 21:20 in Moscow now so we'll know soon enough. NATO and the US must quit this deadly game of footsie before something unspeakable happens.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)


[–]blackpoop321 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've been doubling-down and steadily investing in this declining economy since January. If it does anything but collapse, I'll be a millionaire when things get back to normal.

If it does collapse then I'm screwed either way.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Looks like it was postponed. Supposedly Putin was going to mobilize the entire Russian military.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

So what's he doing in Ukraine? Half assing it?

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think he wants to appear militarily weak. It's very hard to believe he can't beat UKR with ease.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a proxy war with NATO.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But it appears to be close to breaking out all over. This may just be a fear-creation tactic.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If he strikes NATO directly it becomes open season on Russia proper. Putins not stupid enough to do that unless he gets a pact with China and at least a few 3rd world counties like Brazil. That's very unlikely to happen.

If he can't win a proxy war he can't win a direct war.

But there is absolutely no reason to think he isn't throwing everything he's got at Ukraine.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think the army Putin thought he had actually existed, this is speculation, but I think everyone was giving too glowing of reports so they didn't get in trouble, and they didn't accurately reflect the reality of the situation.

Also, Russia wouldn't have had any problems if we didn't give a ton of anti-armor weapons to Ukraine. That's a real force multiplier when foot soldiers don't just have Kalashnikovs but man portable heavies. And even still, Russia would eventually win the war of attrition if they were interested in slogging it out. They're not though, now they want to bring overwhelming force to bear and end this.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most recent report at 0900 (now) New York, says he called up 30,000 reservists.

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

300,000. I think this is a strategic mistake longterm for Russia.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks. That is a sizable bump. Did you also hear that the number of people suddenly leaving Russia also jumped right after the announcement.

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A draft is not the best sign. The important leverage Russia holds against Europe depends on the fact that Russia has natural gas and Europe doesn't. If Ukraine gets the east back, Europe no longer needs Russia. I understand how this is somewhat life and death for Russia, but a draft just indicates that you've lost, but now with more death.