Women's IssuesMeanwhile on r/actualtransbians a few lesbians apparently still hang out. "Can we stop objectifying women who are just doing their jobs?"

submitted by Lady_Montgomery from self.LGBDropTheT

"What is the real difference between this kind of behavior and the way straight cis men talk about women?"

Well, the thing is dear, it might be called actuallesbians, but it's in fact just bunch of straight guys larping. I hope she finds out soon enough.

https://np.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/hyspwb/can_we_stop_objectifying_women_who_are_just_doing/

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[–]Lessom 74 insightful - 33 fun74 insightful - 32 fun75 insightful - 33 fun -  (2 children)

Ha I chuckled at this reply

‘Ew. Sometimes the posts here are very cis-men-like, not usually but it’s very gross’

Hmm, I wonder why 🤔

[–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 39 insightful - 13 fun39 insightful - 12 fun40 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

Very self aware wolves haha

[–][deleted] 41 insightful - 3 fun41 insightful - 2 fun42 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh man, I am getting the popcorn out for all the peaking that’s gonna come down the pipeline. People are starting to get pretty grossed out

[–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 61 insightful - 11 fun61 insightful - 10 fun62 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

A commenter posted that “women should stop being simps for other women” and I checked their post history and they are literally a MALE and INCEL-complete with self pity posts and photos of himself-clearly a “cis” man who hates himself and women but is posting regularly in lesbian subreddits.

How many of those make up the “lesbian” reddit community now hm?

[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Barf

[–][deleted] 59 insightful - 2 fun59 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

This is straight male behavior through and through. It sounds exactly like how guys react to pictures of attractive women on other large subreddits. Whatever she did or said doesn't matter, she could have cured cancer, the comments are going to be full of creepy jokes about how hot she is with all the decorum of horny 13 year old boys.

I wonder how long it will take the women there to realize they're surrounded by men. No doubt if they start paying attention they'll notice that something is off in the way discussions happen on r/ActualLesbians. Most lesbians would never talk about women the way men do, because we're used to being objectified from childhood and hate making other women uncomfortable. Straight men never have to go through constantly being viewed as a piece of meat by boys and men, so trans males generally won't see problems unless it's pointed out. Even then they're likely to not stop because they care more about hardons than humans.

I hope the remaining lesbians over there find their way to s/Lesbians.

[–][deleted] 64 insightful - 17 fun64 insightful - 16 fun65 insightful - 17 fun -  (1 child)

I just found this comment in the reply section. My entire chest sank reading this.

sometimes i wonder, is it just really socially awkward people doing that stuff, or are there a bunch of het men that are subbed here? i don't get it. a very very small amount of lesbians that i've dated/known in person act that way. could we please stop and just go back to fun memes instead of acting gross?

Girl... you don't know the half of it.

[–][deleted] 38 insightful - 4 fun38 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

We should be personally inviting these pre-peak terfs to join us

[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 10 fun34 insightful - 9 fun35 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

At least when lesbians do it, it’s usually not in public, but between friends. And we all know we are being gross.

[–]Lady_Montgomery[S] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So this!

[–]Lady_Montgomery[S] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Is a/Lesbians like proper lesbians as in Trans women are men kinda lesbian space? Cause if they are pro trans I’m so not going in there.

[–]rosegoldstar 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

s/lesbians is exclusively for (female) lesbians. it replaced the banned r/truelesbians.

[–]Lady_Montgomery[S] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you. Reddit truly has messed me up.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is because /r/lesbians was already taken and it was a porn archive, so lesbians needed to create other named subs. At least I was told it was like that.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whatever she did or said doesn't matter

Reminded me this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-O08iphPIg

The part where she saying "I am asking how I did my job, and everyone is answering 'you look cute'. But I was asking not that!".

[–]hufflepuff-poet 48 insightful - 14 fun48 insightful - 13 fun49 insightful - 14 fun -  (1 child)

Saw this from a straight guy when asked why he was on the sub:

"That's not rude at all. Couple of reasons:

My sister is gay, so I try to keep up with the current lesbian meta.
The content on here is usually really enjoyable.
The community is genuinely quite nice."

Hmm a lesbian subreddit that's more welcoming to straight guys than actual lesbians... I wonder why 🤔 guess we'll never know!!

[–]LasagnaRossa 38 insightful - 19 fun38 insightful - 18 fun39 insightful - 19 fun -  (0 children)

Under him there's another man who says he's subbed because he used to think he was cishet but is actually a transbian now. The joke writes itself.

[–][deleted] 42 insightful - 12 fun42 insightful - 11 fun43 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

Come to us, baby terf. Leave the flock of perverts. Another one on the way. If that’s a trans person who posted that and not a woman, I would also urge them to get the fuck away from those others who don’t know how to respect women.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 35 insightful - 4 fun35 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Wow, total self-aware wolves material, or maybe "self-aware self-aware wolves" since the original subreddit sips the gender koolaid. What an interesting microcosm this post is. I scrolled down pretty far looking at the comments and then quickly checking profiles to see whether the poster was male or female (and this is generally easily discernible). Some findings because I like to analyze:

  • I had to scroll way far down to find a transbian responding to OP with a show of support against objectifying posts in the community and even he said that this reeks of male behavior which he thought he was supposed to be turning away from in identifying as a transbian. The transbian majority was otherwise totally silent other than (1) two transbians that I saw responding to anti-objectification comments by actual women asking for guidelines on objectification vs. polite appreciation (it's good for them to ask but it's telling that they don't already know because it means they haven't meaningfully experienced it themselves), and (2) a few other transbians responding to random off-topic side shit. So great that they wanted to ignore the important topic at hand but still felt the need to make their presence known. Paging Julie Rei Goldstein and Laverne Cox: No. Trans people, you included, do not receive the socialization of your target sex. Do you need further proof?

  • The many people explaining what objectification is were always women. I didn't see any exceptions. Transbians seemed devoid of insight and interest there.

  • I saw only one woman ask for guidelines on what is considered objectification, but she is autistic, so that's not surprising.

  • All of the explanations from women that the posters just must be really young are killing me. Open their profiles people and tell me if you can discern immediately what each of them has in common (hint: a penis).

To borrow from the trans cult, there are a bunch of TERF eggs primed to hatch.

[–]julesburm1891 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The transwomen dominate every conversation on that sub. It’s curious this was the one they chose to sit out. 🙄

[–]begonia_skies 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. "Transbians" are usually the dominant voices on that sub, but on that thread, it seemed like it was dominated by actual women. Really interesting, I read through the thread, it's like they are so close to figuring it out, just keep thinking ladies, there is a reason that sub sounds and acts a lot like a straight male sub.

[–]rosegoldstar 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I’m sure this doesn’t apply to every cis guy, but I’ve seen a few posts from people who said that they thought they were cis guys who just thought lesbians were cool, before eventually realizing that they weren’t a guy at all and were a lesbian too. I figure that by allowing and accepting everyone, even curious straight guys, it makes it more okay for a questioning person to dip their toes in the water.

when asked why "cishet" men were in a sub for lesbians, someone responded with this. what a joke.

[–][deleted] 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yet they will throw out homosexual females at the drop of a dime.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was called an incel by them for referring to myself as a homosexual female. Yep. The definition of lesbian is now not inclusive enough, hateful, and the language of "incels." When I asked how they would define lesbian, they repeatedly refused to answer.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

So he came there and realized he likes women just like any straight man do?

[–]lmaonope333 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's sad because baby lesbians are seeing this behavior and thinking it's normal, thinking that lesbians are creepy when really it's all men. which might discourage them from coming out

[–]Lady_Montgomery[S] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or worse. Think they are men. ☹️

[–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoyed all the “so many of those comment sound like straight men” comments. The transwomen on that sub don’t understand that this is exactly the polite, roundabout way women are socialized to voice frustration. I’m guessing most other woman read “the straight men in this sub need to stop being so disgusting. We’re sick of it and we see you” in those comments.

[–]shveya 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

From one of the straight men on that sub" "I think there's a difference between sexualizing and objectification, though? Like, saying "she's so fierce, I want her to step on me" is not at all the same as saying "she has a pretty mouth, I'd like to fuck it." Most people are sexy, but no people are objects."

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't "step on me" and "fuck her mouth" is just same physical sexual fantasies? If your fantasy is a bit different, it doesn't make it less sexual fantasy, and doesn't make object of fantasy less objectified.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

JESUS. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm probably going to get shit for this but all I could think reading those comments was I don't find her attractive at all. Even if I did find her attractive guess what? That doesn't matter AT ALL because her job isn't to be pretty. NEXT!

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Omg, poor women. I hope they realise it soon 😂