LGB Historywhen was the t added to lgb?

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curious because i want to know when they forced themselves into our group

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[–]shveya 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found an interesting article about this from back in 2007. “ I know firsthand that it's not safe in the gay community to ask questions about how the transgendered fit in. I also know that I am not alone in my questions, or my fear of asking them.” Imagine bring this guy now, being able to shake his head and say he was right all along.

Here is the article: https://www.salon.com/2007/10/08/lgbt/

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry to repost this - I posted on the wrong thread.

Here is an article from the NEW YORK TIMES in which transgender activists boast about how they targeted the gay rights movement because the latter was well-funded, had larger numbers of participants and was organized.

"Once a Pariah, Now a Judge: The Early Transgender Journey of Phyllis Frye"
New York Times August 29, 2015 (also might come up as August 30)

[–]motss-pb 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transgender was first included in the 1993 March on Washington platform

http://www.qrd.org/qrd/events/mow/mow-full.platform

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was changed by different groups at different times. (I know this makes no sense, so I'm providing an example below:)

https://www.glbthistory.org/timeline

1985 - they were called - San Francisco Bay Area Gay and Lesbian Historical Society

1990 - they changed their name to - Gay and Lesbian Historical Society of Northern California

1999 - they changed their name to - Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender Historical Society

This is just one example of one group, but other groups were just like this, they kept changing their names to keep up with what everyone else was doing. The biggest thing in my memory is that everything used to be GLB/GLBT and then suddenly it changed to LGB/LGBT. I even felt like a "Mandela effect" for a moment, like... Wait... What happened? Am I remembering it right? (But everyone else remembers it too, so it's not a real Mandela effect obviously.)

[–]JulienMayfair 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was around 1993 or so, and it was a top-down move that came from LGB activists with intellectual ties to Queer Theory, not a grass-roots community initiative. We really had NO IDEA at the time what it would eventually lead to. Back then, they basically told us that trans people needed our help and no one else would have anything to do with them so it was our responsibility to ally ourselves with them. I was involved with campus LGB groups for all of the 1990s, and the interesting thing was that for the most part, throughout the 1990s, most "LGBT" groups were still de facto LGB groups. There were very few T members. Large LGB organizations like HRC prioritized LGB civil rights issues, and the T hated them for it. Even just a few years ago, TRAs would talk about how much they hated organizations like HRC for not being pro-trans enough.

[–]SedateApe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From what I'm seeing here, and in the linked information, the idea of T for transgender may have been a cause begin in the west coast. On the east coast the T was originally to include transvestites.

In Philly area we started hearing about adding a T about 1995, or so. And it was to represent transvestites, straight cross dressers, Drag Queens, and Drag Kings.

I was down south when I heard the T now stood for transgender people. This was about 2005.