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[–]reluctant_commenter 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Minor angry side rant. If half of LGBTQ-identified people 18-34 (I know, this is one data source) are claiming to be some nonbinary bullshit gender like "agender" and whatever-- how many fucking "LGBTQ" people applied to scholarships and stuff on the basis of being "trans", and weren't?? Y'all people fucking suck, all the people who choose to do this. Their Tumblr cliques have real consequences. Children's bodies are being reshaped and damaged because of this insane ideology. I'm just so pissed.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Making a tattoo, wearing bright colors and dyeing your hair is now counted as "being LGBTQ+", so most likely half of people in survey were just "i am special" straight non-dysphoric people.

[–]XirallicBolts 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure if I was banned, but my comments were removed from a French sub because a girl was asking "how do nonbinary pronouns work in this gendered language?"

The meat of my comment was off-topic (and I don't blame the mods for removing it) but I still felt it was something she needed to hear as an impressionable teenager.


Outside of social media, the vast majority of people either don't know or don't care about the whole trans movement. It's easy to understand why -- most 'come out' as teenagers, and adults know just how unstable and impressionable teenagers are. It's assumed to just be a phase because we all remember just how confused we were from hormones.

Teenagers want to be special, accepted, unique, etc... and after a few months on Tumblr they learned that these uncertain feelings they have (read: puberty, hormones) can be used as 'evidence' that they're part of an accepting group: the lbgtq+ community.

Looking from the outside, many parts like the trans and "egg" community feel just like child grooming with their behavior, targeting impressionable teenagers and hammering in their beliefs.

I'm not saying "nobody can be trans" because they certainly exist, but there's strong evidence that a very small minority are essentially brainwashing teenagers to boost their numbers to feel more valid / push their agenda to mainstream

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I show them in reverse order to simulate how the LGBT community has changed over time.

Gotcha, was going to ask about that. That's a great reason to do it.

I think you did a great job with what you're working with. The biggest problem is with the data, specifically this:

"non-cisgender, not strictly heterosexual"

Would love to know how many transgender-identified males who claim they are "lesbians" and transgender-identified females who claim they are "gay men" filled out this category.

In fact, in the 18-34 range, 12% are trans-identified, compared to 8% who are just non-heterosexual.

This, quite frankly, blew me away. Half of "LGBTQ" people my age range are trans??? WHAT! There is no way those numbers check out, lol. Even if 10% of the population was secretly in the closet as LGBT, we didn't progress in acceptance that much in the past decade for that to happen. It's beyond belief, and should not be believed. I don't know how anyone can look at graphs like this and not see a red flag.

[–]slushpilot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we didn't progress in acceptance that much

Even if we did... it's completely unrealistic.

[–]Astrid2448 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where I live, pretty much every girl in the 18 - 25 range claims some sort of LGBT+ identity.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Non-binary is new Emo or Goth.

[–]luckystar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Am I reading this right? 12% of all young people consider themselves trans?!

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that is correct. And I think it speaks to the fact that younger people often start identifying as trans in groups. One friend in a friend group starts calling themselves trans, the other friend group members are more likely to do so as well.

Would not be surprised if a few of the 8% of the youngest category, also had 1-2% inflation from peer pressure. But, that's harder to tell.