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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 35 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Transgender children are like vegan cats. They did not make the decision.

And I don’t mean to sound controversial, but whenever a child transitions, it’s usually because the mother wanted it. Either the father tried to stop it and was punished by the courts for this, or he accepted defeat. In almost every photo I’ve seen of a transgender person with his or her parents online, the mother looked happy and the father looked depressed. In the Save James saga, James' father is doing everything in his power to stop the abuse of his son, but the stepmother who now has sole custody for some reason is destroying this boy's life. I read an article of a father who was suing for sole custody of his daughter because the girl's mother wanted a transgender son (this was years ago so I don’t remember the outcome). I also read a post on Am I The Asshole where a father was expelled his house by his wife because he wouldn’t tattoo his son's new feminine name. For context, the tattoos of his kids' names when they were small. Then the son decided was a girl, the mother threatened divorce if he didn’t accept his delusional son, so the father accepted his "new daughter". But then the son wanted the tattoo of his old name replaced with his new name, but the father couldn’t do it and tattoo removal surgery is dangerous, but that didn’t matter, he was a homophobe, so he was kicked out of the house. Now, I’m not sure if this is true or not, because sometimes people lie on the internet, but then again, things like this actually happen in real life so I’m inclined to believe this post being true.

Now, the courts, schools, Big Pharma and the media are pushing this abuse. But it seems like mothers want a transgender child more than fathers do. My mother isn’t woke, but she still believes that trans people should be allowed to serve in the military and change their gender, whereas my father says that transsexuals are delusional and for the past year I can see clearly now that he’s right. It’s good that women are increasingly speaking out against this madness, and yes, most men were silent on transgenderism because most of us thought the T was fringe. But whenever a boy is forced to wear dresses and take dangerous chemicals, it’s rarely at the request of his father.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is anecdotal but in every case of Munchausen’s by proxy and just Munchausen’s I’m aware of, it was a woman with the condition. I think it’s because with the one condition you’re getting attention through weakness, waifishness, and helplessness, which men don’t tend to glorify. And the other manifests in a caretaking role, generally of a child. So it’s gonna tend to be women.

My mom has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Munchausen’s. Not by proxy, but there were signs of that too. I haven’t spoken to her in years so idk if she even knows I’m gay, but she is 100% the type of person who would trans their child for attention and to be lauded as a hero. For reasons unrelated to homophobia though.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sorry you have to deal with that.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks dude. Thankfully cutting my mom out of my life was the easiest and best thing I’ve ever done for myself. I never regret it for a moment. I have no idea how I’m a productive member of society though lol.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sadly i can relate

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well done. 👍

[–]JulienMayfair 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it’s usually because the mother wanted it

To quote a friend of mine, "Women are moral agents just like men are. The difference is that when women go bad, they tend to go bad in different ways from men. We're trained to recognize the bad things that men do, but not the things women do."

Control over child-rearing decisions is one way in which women have a lot of power in our society, so it's also a way in which they can abuse that power and authority.

My own sister got mad at the rest of our family and deliberately damaged our relationships with her children in ways we've never been able to repair. She did it by feeding them lies. And they have no contact at all with their biological father from whom she's divorced even though I happen to know that their divorce happened because of some bad behavior on both their parts (my sister was having an affair). But she acts like she's a saint.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry to hear about your sister. That must be hell for her children and their father.

[–]JulienMayfair 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I last spoke to their biological father ~15 years ago. His kids are now adults and both married. He wasn't invited to either wedding, and he will technically become a grandfather soon. I doubt he even knows.

She cut off contact with the rest of the family for about two years and persuaded her children to go along with it, which included our mother who is completely blameless in all of it. These days, we kind of act like a family for holidays, but there's no real trust.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds dreadful. Your poor mother and their poor father. Hopefully those children will wake up and learn the truth before the father dies.

[–]Seahorse 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah and then there's the Mermaids founder.

She took her son to get GRS at 16 in Thailand!

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a vile human being, and a horrible mother.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Is my skull so thick that I just can't grasp their argument or is it simply insane that any child needs a full body transplant because of the clothes they like?

No, these kind of parents are nuts. Their child is definitely not the ones calling the shots here, just along for the ride. They're projecting their own ideology onto the kid.

The whole thing is basically, 'you're not really allowed to ask anything because it's all offensive to me(and my child but mostly me). Forget everything you know about the differences between boys and girls and pledge your full support for my mindset and approach to child rearing or stfu'.

Don't they HAVE to have a gender?

Why this is inappropriate to ask: Who says? Gender is a social construct that has been manipulated and changed over centuries. The reality is that there are so many kinds of people in the world. Transgender,

Which is STILL a gender smh

Maybe this person should be asking themselves why their child needs to be transgender at all if gender is not needed and the so-called binary is so problematic.

Why not just drop the concept of socially constructed gender entirely(let them be gnc) and just go with sex for identification? Oh yeah, right. Because that actually has a clear definition in biology that can't be obfuscated and completely annihilated by woke parents. And they seem to love shifting meanings around so no one understands what they're talking about anymore so they can be all offended and victimized when someone gets it wrong. I mean, how dare they screw it up.

It's like laying a minefield and being all shocked and pearl-clutchy whenever someone steps on one. Give me a break.

[–]slushpilot 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Their child is definitely not the ones calling the shots here, just along for the ride

It's probably negotiated by the child, but technically true, because enabling it is just poor parenting. "I'm a firetruck!" Of course you are dear, let's go buy you a ladder...

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I just wanted to point out Jazz Jenning's family. On the show, it felt felt like for years and years they all just simply assumed that Jazz would be attracted to boys/men as he grew older. They were completely blindsided when Jazz came out as being interested in girls and calling himself pansexual. A lot of this is me just interpreting facial-expressions and body-language, but the mother especially seemed so put off and inconvenienced that her "daughter" now wanted to be "a lesbian." (She didn't say these words, this is just the vibe I felt. Like she was THISCLOSE to telling Jazz "You're too young to know who you're attracted to," but just holding it in, because the cameras are filming.)

Can you imagine how stupid a real homophobic parent would feel if they spent all this time transing their kid to make them straight, only to have their trans kid come out as "gay boi" or "transbian"???

Onto the article:

I squared my body toward her and looked her in the eyes. "I find it curious that you are so determined to stare at the genital anatomy of a young child... do you make a habit of being intensely interested in children's genitals."

Yeah Jasmine, you did not say this, and nobody came up to you to tell you about your kid's dick. Just stop.

Don't they HAVE to have a gender?

Why this is inappropriate to ask: Who says? Gender is a social construct that has been manipulated and changed over centuries.

Hold up.............. What? If gender is make-believe like Santa Claus, then why aren't you telling your kid to just shut the fuck up and live in the body they were born in? Why are you indulging this made-up nonsense and destroying your child's life and making them sterile and dependent on medication for the rest of their lives?

Why can't you just let your kid play with opposite sex stuff and still remain the same sex? Anytime your little brat whines about being a girl, just tell him "a boy can do anything a girl can do, a boy can like anything a girl can like, stop being a sexist little shit and get over it, you wanted to be a puppy last week." (I mean... don't actually say that but...)

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Wait... Jazz is into girls? And his mother's not happy about this? Why am I not surprised?

[–]Seahorse 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly the sad reality is, to a lot of people, transgender makes more sense than being gay.

[–]our_team_is_winning[S] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Makes more "sense" or more "sex" ? I like the Freudian slip :) Although I'd prefer the gay sex to transgender making more sex.... :)

[–]Seahorse 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Whoops I changed that now 🤣😂

[–]artetolife 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The woman who wrote that article is "queer" (married to a "non-binary" woman) so I don't think this is a homophobic transition story.

[–]Seahorse 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unless they're both lesbian or gay man then they can totally be homophobic.

Woke homophobic looks different to old school is all.

I think a huge portion of trans kids is certainly homophobia.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

""He's acting feminine because he's actually a girl in the wrong body" --- is he not allowed to act feminine in a male body? What does "feminine" mean anyway? Does every girl child have to act feminine?"

Yes. This. Thank god i'm in my 50's, because as big a tomboy as i was and as confusing as it was for my mother, I'd probably be some vagina atrophied, stubbly, acne ridden transman by now. I don't act/dress/anything else feminine, doesn't mean i'm a man, because a) i'm not a man and b) that's stupid.

[–]Rosefield 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The christan mother of Kai Shapley thought he was gay and is sooo happy that it was a "false alarm" & that her son is actually a trans "girl".

[–]worried19 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

After beating the child for being feminine, which she herself admits. And this is celebrated by the mainstream media as a glorious affirmation of this child's so-called natural inclination towards girlhood.

Kimberly turned to a DIY form of conversion therapy. She dressed Kai in camouflage and held her down to cut her blond hair into a flattop. Since most of the family’s seven children are boys—Kimberly has one adult daughter—there were no “girl toys” at home, but Kimberly asked the Christian daycare Kai attended to hide any baby dolls from her as well. When Kai turned her T-shirts into skirts or insisted she was a girl, Kimberly spanked her. When Kai asked for a Minnie Mouse birthday cake, Kimberly bought her one with Mickey.

“No matter how much punishment this kid got, you couldn’t beat it out of her,” Kimberly said. “You couldn’t pray it out, I couldn’t cast it out.”

https://splinternews.com/she-was-an-ultraconservative-texas-christian-then-kai-1793859323

[–]our_team_is_winning[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How the hell is this "Christian"? So she's admitting "god" made a mistake? Maybe her "god" just sent her a gay son to test her love of all God's children! Who the hell beats a little kid for wanting Minnie Mouse something? Maybe he has an anime crush on Minnie, eh? She says she noticed by age 2? What, did the kid already have his Grindr profile up? Give me a break. It's a kid! I had never read these details. This is awful.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/parenting/a43702/transgender-child-kimberly-shappley/