Women's IssuesActual Transbians: obviously attempting to rape women by deception is fine.

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[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 44 insightful - 2 fun44 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Forgot to add that it's sick how much they go on about how 'dangerous' it will be for the transbians if a lesbian finds out they're trans. It's almost as if they don't realise that transbians are usually physically stronger plus often don't take rejection well. At. All.

But of course, transbians need to worry about being in danger. Naturally.

[–]bastetkat 40 insightful - 6 fun40 insightful - 5 fun41 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

They’re in danger of being told “no”. Lesbians denying them sex is LiTeRaL vIoLeNcE.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can’t fathom why transwomen (or anyone) want to waste their time with people who clearly don’t want them unless they are literal rapists.

[–]Eurowoman24 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

then they react with literal violence

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's dangerous to them because they're worried about someone pressing charges or warning other women, you know, like every other rape apologist dudebro.

[–]Rosefield 28 insightful - 9 fun28 insightful - 8 fun29 insightful - 9 fun -  (8 children)

As if lesbians have to find out that transbians are men. 😂 These guys are totally delusional. It's all part of their fetish fantasy.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It really does depend. I'm swiping left on women who might genuinely be biological women, just with slightly stronger jawlines, but I worry that they're transbians and don't want to risk it. There are some that are obvious, but some aren't, and those are the worst ones.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Edited photos handpicked by the person are one thing. You would be able to tell if you met them in person.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the thing. I don't want to be in a situation where I go to meet the person IRL and realise they're trans. I'm worried about being doxxed if I don't talk to them after the date, not to mention having to act as if they're not completely abhorrent throughout the date.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't bother with anyone with too few pictures, no body shot, filtered photos only, and who relies on extreme angles. It's just not worth it. I know a trans-identified male who with some strategic control over lighting, angle, and styling can look passable in some photos where he doesn't look like himself. But he doesn't pass IRL at all. He's both non-op and doesn't even take exogenous hormones. He's just an awkward autistic guy with an anime/graphic novel obsession. Thankfully all of his hobbies revolve around being trans so the topic would inevitably come up immediately.

There's also some facial expressions I associate with trans-identified males. I mean, it's not attractive anyway regardless of whether they're passing or not, but something about the smile and stare that many of them do as they try to imitate the way girls and women smile looks very off and "stranger danger!" to me.

[–]dandeliondynasty 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps you could video call or talk on the phone first first? Could say you just feel more comfortable that way or cite the pandemic.

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    [–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]blackrainbow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "but cis women's bodies have so much variety!!"

    [–]winterwillow 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Again the transbians are stealing the experience of homosexual transsexuals, with these 'extremely dangerous' comments. How is it dangerous for a heterosexual man to decieve a lesbian into dating him? No transbian has ever faced violence by doing that, but then I don't count the lesbian leaving or calling them out violence. Most would probably put a smile on their face, endure and then make their excuses to avoid a second date. The only danger the transbians are facing is not getting laid.

    [–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 31 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The line in my opinion is that you should not show someone genitals they're not expecting. So if you're pre- or non-GRS that's something you should disclose before getting (that) intimate. Not doing that first of all could be extremely dangerous for you, and also just isn't a good time to spring it on someone even if they're totally fine with it.

    This started off so well and then

    Other than that I don't think there's any moral obligation for anything. I'd say treat it the same way you would treat a) finding out whether someone has the same values as you and b) finding out whether you're sexually compatible in general (eg if you're a stone top I'd also recommend having a conversation about it before you go to have sex for the first time).

    No, having the wrong gentials and biological sex is not the same as having the wrong values. Wrong values don't get erect 'in a feminine way'.

    The people telling you you're a deceiver if you don't disclose that before the first date are full of shit. Get to know someone first if that's what's comfortable for you!

    Fuck this asshole. I don't know what I expected from this sub.

    [–]Rosefield 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    These men talking about disclosing is hilarious. They aren't just role playing as lesbians but also as stealth. No lesbian is going to confuse transbians for women. These men are not only obviously male but they are also very masculine, dirty, lazy, short tempered, sex pests and batshit insane. Passing is hard, even most hsts can't do it. This thread is just part of r/al mens role playing.

    [–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Damn, the transphobes are a n g r y

    They try so hard to pretend condemnation of rape is transphobia.

    [–]LasagnaRossa 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm also pissed that they think we are coward for not leaving a comment, when we simply can't leave a disagreeing comment!

    [–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Bullies are always a lot braver when others cant fight back.

    [–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    my trans identity is an extremely sensitive topic, and I would prefer to disclose this once I have at least gotten to know the person.

    So you'd rather not disclose it until it's emotionally convenient for you? It doesn't bother you that you're potentially wasting someone else's time and emotional energy by not disclosing something that could very well be a non-starter? Trans or not, you're certainly not scoring any points with me.

    [–]julesburm1891[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They live in a fantasy land of cognitive dissonance where a partner’s sex matters to them but they think their magical gender feels will matter to everyone else.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Welcome to the topic that initiated the peaking process for me. Seeing massive amounts of upvotes on comments in a putatively lesbian space about "biological sex" being private medical information and no one having a right to that information. And then the comments about how lesbians have no excuse to not date post-op trans-identified males and that surgically created "genitalia" are so indistinguishable that even a gynecologist couldn't tell. It was just so dystopian and such obvious utter bullshit that it had me thinking "what the what?" That's when I started checking out the profiles of the people making these comments and looking for answers on the GCDebatesQT subreddit, and oh baby.