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[–]Movellon[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (2 children)

This is not strictly in keeping with the rules of the subreddit but I'm allowing it because I'm really pissed off with Reddit at the moment.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

The gay male community is a bit insular, which seems to be working in our favour. For now. But we still have a bit of an echo chamber culture. r/askgaybros may be against trans supremacy and against the idea of gay men submitting to transgender demands. But most gay men still buy into the lie that you can become the opposite sex and that sex change surgeries and hormones are beneficial. Most gay men still expect you to pretend that a man is a woman if this man thinks he’s a woman, or vice versa. Most gay men are still unaware of how compromised our movement has been.

Anyway, well done. It does not surprise me that there are a lot of people with autism and Aspergers identifying as trans or supporting trans rights, because people with autism or aspergers tend to be more gullible than the general population.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But most gay men still buy into the lie that you can become the opposite sex and that sex change surgeries and hormones are beneficial. Most gay men still expect you to pretend that a man is a woman if this man thinks he’s a woman, or vice versa. Most gay men are still unaware of how compromised our movement has been.

Yeah? You think that's true? I know we talk a lot here about how lesbian communities have been harmed by the prevalence of these beliefs, but perhaps seeing the more extreme harms done by people with autogynephilia (in the lesbian community) makes us underestimate how much transgender ideology also harms gay men.

edit: Also thanks and thank you for reading it! Yeah, I think the effects on the autism community are being underestimated right now... still need to read Abigail Shrier's book, it seems like a step in the right direction for talking about it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I might check out that book.

Transgender ideology may not have hurt the gay male communities as much as it has hurt the lesbian communities, but we have our own problems. Problems like lack of accountability, hostility towards gay people who don’t have liberal viewpoints, Peter Pan syndrome, internalised misandry and excessive promiscuity. On the subject of internalised misandry, some gay men are also misogynistic and a bad influence on some straight women.

[–]ukrdude10 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry but you're wrong about autism/aspergers. We're not more "gullible", aspies have equal or higher IQ than the general population, and we have normal reasoning and critical thinking skills. None of the aspies that I know are transgender, and I have never been gender-confused. So please do more research and don't insult people who are on your side. Thank you.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The autism link doesn't surprise me, but I have an inkling of a feeling that a ton of them are self diagnosed and are in fact dealing narcissistic personality disorder rather than ASD (it's more of an attention seeking thing).

However, if they truly have ASD, then once they've either been convinced that they're trans or they've convinced themselves that they are (the former is usually more common among the more vulnerable part of the ASD community), it is very difficult to dissuade them, especially since ASD and the sensitivities caused by the disorder can cause children and adults to ignore societal gender expectations and be gender non conforming as a result. This can include girls or boys wearing the opposite sex's clothing for comfort/texture reasons, fixating on the opposite sex's usual range of toys/subject, etc.

All of this is mere speculation on my part, but as someone who has (officially diagnosed) ASD and who has been reading up extensively on the subject and following recent developments, it is quite worrying how many gender non conforming ASD kids and adults are being dragged into this bullshit ideology, a phenomenon which could be attributed to people with ASD wanting to belong somewhere, or wanting an explanation for why they feel different.

[–]blahblahgcer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every self diagnosed autistic person I know is trans.

Not every diagnosed autistic person is trans, but it's still a lot higher proportions than normal.

Then again, literally everyone I know at this point is trans, so it might just be a college thing.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The autism link doesn't surprise me, but I have an inkling of a feeling that a ton of them are self diagnosed and are in fact dealing narcissistic personality disorder rather than ASD (it's more of an attention seeking thing).

That's a good point. It's interesting you bring that up because I have seen articles that discuss some overlap of superficial similarities between ASD and NPD that may confuse even experts, such as theory of mind issues. It's yet another example of why getting diagnosed by a professional, not self-diagnosis, is the only legitimate way to go about this...

However, if they truly have ASD, then once they've either been convinced that they're trans or they've convinced themselves that they are (the former is usually more common among the more vulnerable part of the ASD community), it is very difficult to dissuade them...

Yeah, exactly. I was reading this paper that talked about how systematizing, in particular, was an ASD trait found at elevated levels in nonbinary and transgender study participants-- categorizing everything neatly and then adhering to those categorizations very strictly: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/european-psychiatry/article/autistic-traits-in-individuals-selfdefining-as-transgender-or-nonbinary/EBA481AA354DA47D8C3F88AE5B9BD6BC

I agree, it is really concerning and it's messed up. It seems clear that L/G/B people are not the only demographic highly at risk from exploitation by the medical industry.

[–]eddyelric 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a great resource and I appreciate the effort put into this!

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, that's thoughtful of you! :)

[–]Seahorse 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not particularly surprised, transgenderism always appears to be deeply rooted with mental health issues and pathologies.

TRA will tell you that it's because of transphobia, however these pathologies seem to be getting worse.

The FtM thing is absolutely terrifying ticking time bomb, it's happening right before our eyes yet people have no idea. I shudder to think where these women will be in 20 years.

The culpas sub is an absolute mindfuck, what is utterly frightening in that sub is users encouraging others to distance themselves from friends who are clearly concerned.

There is an underlying manipulation to transgenderism (particularly with 'elders') that makes me deeply uncomfortable, like this is a long game to something else.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The culpas sub is an absolute mindfuck, what is utterly frightening in that sub is users encouraging others to distance themselves from friends who are clearly concerned.

Oh, whoa, I missed that part. I'll have to take another look, that is really weird and concerning.

There is an underlying manipulation to transgenderism (particularly with 'elders') that makes me deeply uncomfortable, like this is a long game to something else.

Agreed. Well, we know about one part of it: the money. There are vast sums of money to be made in the medical industry, at least in the U.S.; companies want people who will buy expensive drugs from them for years and years. We know about a second part of it as well: homophobia. A homophobic parent sees an opportunity to have, instead of a gay little boy, a "straight little girl," and homophobic cultures use transgender ideology as an excuse to wipe out or subdue their LGB populations. Beyond those motivations... I'm not sure. It's very cultlike.

[–]Rosefield 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The culpas sub is an absolute mindfuck, what is utterly frightening in that sub is users encouraging others to distance themselves from friends who are clearly concerned.

That's what cults do. Internet cults are no exception.

[–]Jinera 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have had a tulpa for over 7 years now, i created one accidentally when I was a kid, years before I even learned what tulpas were.

When I figured out the term I was first introduced to the tulpa forums. They were far more level-headed there.

It was eventually what brought me to reddit a year ago and damn that subreddit is so fucked up. Those people clearly do not 1. Know what a tulpa is. 2. Do not have a tulpa but just a very overactive imagination.

They are all lonely people with autism who encourage each other to distance themselves and go along with their fantasy and fuck their "tulpa's" or use them as dating material since they can't get laid in the real world ever.

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This is interesting and mostly just confirms my suspicions. Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know what the tulpa thing was and kind of wish I still didn’t.

As someone officially diagnosed with ASD, I did want to touch on some of the comments that are popping up here/add some more perspective:

1) I think that u/lovelyspearmint is correct that there’s likely a fair amount of erroneous self-diagnosis going on in the Reddit ASD community. This is something that really frustrates me, but at the same time I kind of have to understand because so many women in particular find it difficult to get an official diagnosis/be taken seriously by the medical community. At the same time, there are a lot of Zoomers who just want to be “special” for whatever reason, and saying they’re trans and/or have ASD both serve that purpose.

2) That said, I think that the evidence indicates that there’s definitely something going on. I forget which study, but it was done in the UK and showed that trans-identifying individuals are more likely to have diagnosed ASD at a frankly alarming rate. Add in the fact that scores of young women on the spectrum likely aren’t actually diagnosed, and the real number is no doubt higher.

3) Now on to potential reasons for this: I think that u/RedEyedWarrior has it partially correct that people on the spectrum tend to be more “gullible,” but the question remains as to why, especially when a fair portion of people with ASD are actually very critical of this ideology like myself. I’m involved with the Reddit ASD community, and whenever this topic comes up, it gets super heated with half the people saying derogatory things about trans people and the other half calling those people Nazis. It’s a real clusterf*ck.

I think this divide is a clash between a few different symptoms of ASD: our propensity for being skeptical of the common view/not caving to social pressure, and our serious mind/body disconnect that tends to make us clumsy/cause sensory issues/issues with sex and sexuality. This plays into the DID/multiple personalities stuff. Those diagnoses amount to psychological bunk, but they do, like transgender ideology, serve to explain away these difficulties in a more straightforward and accessible way than an ASD diagnosis. With ASD, we’re just kind of stuck with these problems. Sure, we can work on them, but that’s really hard work, and we’re never going to be “normal.” These other “conditions” offer a framework for understanding ourselves that puts the onus on others, and on medical interventions, not on ourselves, and may offer some (false) hope for normalcy.

So, our propensity for skepticism ends up clashing with our overwhelming desire to fit in somewhere. Which one wins out depends on the person and their mental state, I suppose. I myself experienced severe gender dysphoria for some time growing up, but realized that was related to ASD, no inherent gender identity (because there is no such thing). If someone had offered me hormones to fix it at thirteen, I would’ve taken them in a second. I’m glad I made it to adulthood/a better place mentally before the world went nuts.

I’m not sure what I hoped to accomplish with this wall of text, but I hope someone finds it interesting. I’m happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I only got my diagnosis as an adult, and even then, it was a process and a half to get it due to cost, time, etc. But being aware of my neurodiversity has allowed me to critically analyse my behaviour, my 'tomboyishness', if one can call it, and understand that most of the way that I sit, what I wear, what I do with my hair, is not because I'm of the opposite gender but because of convenience and comfort. For example, I wear men's shorts because they've got deeper pockets, same goes for jackets. Men's underwear is simply more practical, usually softer and suits me better than women's. That doesn't mean I gotta go off and chop off my tatas to be socially acceptable.

[–]Constantine 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes to all of this! We should be telling these kids that it's okay to be themselves, and they don't have to go through medical procedures to present how they see fit.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course, no problem and thanks for reading!

I think your 1st and 2nd points are on the nose. I do not have ASD but have an official ADHD diagnosis and damn, did I have to jump through some hoops to get to a professional who could do a proper evaluation; small wonder people get fed up with the system. All of this transgender ideology nonsense just makes me more convinced than ever that we need way better mental health support...

I’m involved with the Reddit ASD community, and whenever this topic comes up, it gets super heated with half the people saying derogatory things about trans people and the other half calling those people Nazis. It’s a real clusterf*ck.

Not gonna lie... that sounds kind of hilarious hahaha. I won't participate but is there anywhere I could read those if I were curious? Just on like the r/autism subreddit, for example?

I think this divide is a clash between a few different symptoms of ASD...

With ASD, we’re just kind of stuck with these problems. Sure, we can work on them, but that’s really hard work, and we’re never going to be “normal.” These other “conditions” offer a framework for understanding ourselves that puts the onus on others, and on medical interventions, not on ourselves, and may offer some (false) hope for normalcy.

So, our propensity for skepticism ends up clashing with our overwhelming desire to fit in somewhere. Which one wins out depends on the person and their mental state, I suppose.

That is SUPER helpful, thank you for explaining! That makes a lot of sense... Seems like the word "gullible" could in this context, then, be broken down into several parts-- a part related to distress caused at having ASD (struggles with navigating the world and fitting in might make an individual feel desperate, and thus fall prey to cult tactics), and a part related to mind/body disconnect that would make it harder to tell when someone is bullshitting you about mind/body feelings and sensations.

I’m not sure what I hoped to accomplish with this wall of text, but I hope someone finds it interesting.

Lmao, that was me with this post.

[–]Constantine 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately mods delete all of this stuff and I’m not as good as you are about saving these things, but I’ll keep an eye out for the next epic Reddit meltdown on the subject lol

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No worries! Thank you, I might check over there too :)

[–]blahblahgcer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I said thsi in another comment, but every self diagnosed autistic I know is trans. They're all very out and proud about being autistic, even mentioning it in job interviews and the likes, something which almost every professionally diagnosed autistic person would never do, from what I've seen.

The autism community seems to have a much higher rate of transitioning than the rest of the population, but not as high as the self dxers.

I'm starting to get very sick and tired of self-diagnosing. I'm sick of my struggles and pain being used as woke points and attention-seeking behavior. But the autism community would shun anyone who says that.

[–]Constantine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m a little late replying, but yeah, I feel this. I would never mention in a job interview, oh my God the thought makes me cringe. That just makes me think they’re part of the group that really wants to be special and get special treatment at work/school. I have an inkling that some of this group might actually be autistic, but it’s still annoying and damaging to the wider community. And there’s no doubt many of them don’t have ASD at all.

[–]GConly 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Meant kindly:

That is some weapons grade autism there.

This is making my save list.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ahahaha I am not on the spectrum but I'll take that as a compliment, thank you!

I usually just write this sort of thing for myself, but I thought if I cleaned it up other people might enjoy it as well. Glad you found it interesting!

[–]oyasuminasai50 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Great post!

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder if it's possible to analyze groups of people subscribed to gay subs with explicitly trans subs vs those not subbed to the trans subs. I'm guessing that both groups subscribe to porn but based on the lists you've made here I bet the porn subs are different.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm guessing that both groups subscribe to porn but based on the lists you've made here I bet the porn subs are different.

Yes, they are! I'll try to add that later today, that's a good question. Could do it for gay male subreddits and female-to-male/male-to-female subreddits, at least.

[–]verystablegenius 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

WOW. Super interesting and insightful. Thank you for your work. Not surprised. Psychopaths.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, some of them seem psychopathic, but some are very clearly not :) thank you, I'm glad you found it interesting!

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I stumbled across the Tulpas subreddit a few years ago because they're a fascinating concept steeped in Tibetan buddhism and the occult. And, at the time, the kids there were masturbating to imaginary My Little Ponies.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

My Little Pony porn. Aka "clop." It's a fetish, obviously. I never analyzed that group with a sexual lens... I should get on that.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Great post. It's a shame there's no sub where narcissists flock together openly so we could see the 90 percent correlation there. Since other Cluster B subs do exist however, it would be interesting to see the cross correlation between the likes of BPD and Bipolar to assorted trans subs.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you! From the posting master himself :)

It's a shame there's no sub where narcissists flock together openly so we could see the 90 percent correlation there.

Funny you say that, there are actually a few subs about NPD on reddit, and they are, well, narcissistic. But they're pretty small. Although bipolar is not a personality, I would not be surprised if it overlaps because sometimes people are misdiagnosed with bipolar when they really have BPD (or other things like ADHD, for that matter). I can add BPD to the lists. Will warn, though-- there is a lot of casual self-diagnosis going on with all the mental illness subs, so we'd have to be cautious in interpretation.

[–]HelloMomo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Some people have speculated that there may be a significant crossover between people who identify as transgender and people with eating disorders. (I've heard this anecdotally; if anyone wants to share a study about this overlap, happy to add it here.)

Oh yeah, it's huge overlap. I don't have a study link, but it's common knowledge, even trans people will usually acknowledge that it's rampant.

When I was dysphoric when I was 14, the most serious thing I did was try to starve away my period and hips. At the time, I had no idea how common eating disorders were among trans people. I also had this image of anorexia as something that "stupid straight girls did, because they wanted to look like barbie." When I stopped, the 2 main reasons were: 1) the mental fog that comes with of constant low blood sugar, and 2) anorexia felt too feminine to fit with my self-image.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for sharing, that helps explain a lot. I'm so sorry you felt so dysphoric. I'll have to look into it more, then.

Perhaps part of the distinguishing factor is why people choose to avoid eating. I was taught in school that people do it to lose weight, or to have a sense of control... but it seems like the kind of dysphoria you describe may be a different pathway.

[–]HelloMomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're really curious, I've written more about it here https://moessays.wordpress.com/2020/10/31/that-time-i-was-dysphoric/ (skip to the section titled "disordered eating")

I don't know anything about studies on this. This is just a combo of my experiences and anecdotal accounts from others. But in short, as I understand it, trans paradigm disordered eating is usually about being skinny in order to look androgynous. Skinny as a means to an end. For males, it makes them smaller, more delicate. For females, it decreases breasts and hips. But it's also a form of self-harm, of punishing a disobedient body.

[–]blahblahgcer 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's interesting that you bring up tulpas. My friend group was very into tulpas for about a year (including an incident where an adult was preying on a minor using tulpas, claiming that it was okay because their tulpas were the same age). Nowadays, everybody who was into tulpas is trans. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be going away as quickly as the tulpa phase.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

(including an incident where an adult was preying on a minor using tulpas, claiming that it was okay because their tulpas were the same age

I'm interested in what facilitated this. Was it through an online community? Were they groomed?

(I'm interested because I've had some experience working with child sex abuse victims, and I think that tumblr, and LGBT online forums are ripe for adults to groom teenagers as they are places where it is possible to adults to talk to kids about sex and gender).

[–]blahblahgcer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it was an online community (I wasn't involved in it, but it spilled over). A 25ish year old teacher had a tulpa who was 16ish and a 12 year old had a tulpa who was 17ish or something like that. They would role play really graphic sex stuff in private chat rooms and nobody else aware commented on it because they were all into the tulpa stuff.

Eventually I caught on and reported it because the teacher commented how they had a crush on the 12 year old's tulpa or something like that (I think the wording was "I thought I was gay until I met them"). The kid really fought us super hard on it for a while but eventually cut them off.

[–]winterwillow 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is really interesting, thank you for the time and effort! Especially the overlaps around the ASD subreddits, which seem to confirm that autism is a factor in females identifying as trans or nonbinary. I would like to add that there's a subreddit for women with aspergers, r/aspergirls with 34K subscribers if you didn't know, maybe you'll find some overlaps there.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, that's a good idea, I didn't know about that and I'll add that!

Thank you and thanks for reading :)

[–]Otak 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

as evidenced by subscription to other subreddits

As explained in https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/, the page doesn't look at subreddit subscriptions (it can not, as reddit does not make that information public). It looks at participation, usernames who post and comment in a subreddit.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, thank you, good catch! I think I need to change the wording of some of the comments in my post, then. I'll go ahead and do that.

That's very interesting, then. It might even explain the discrepancy between AL's demographics survey, in which almost 1/3 of users self-reported as actual lesbians (female homosexual, our definition) yet the comments and posts and moderation are dominated by transwomen.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tulpas

Of course.

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It's worth mentioning that TRAs tend to fetishize neurological disorders, rather than actually having them.

I don't believe that most trans-identified people are actually autistic, or even half of them. I've been around several trans-heavy groups and the self proclaimed "autistic" ones generally, conveniently only have the symptoms they find "trendy", like "special interests" (which to them, is just really liking a certain anime or something) or suffering from sensory overload only when they're called out and need an excuse to leave and not acknowledge they did anything wrong. Also, in my experience most people with autism etc don't announce it too freely, and definitely don't spend ages explaining how quirky and special it makes them.

Same goes for DID (which is criticized as not being real anyway.) These people don't actually have "multiple personalities", they just pretend because they think it's quirky and they're detached from reality. I was actually in a "LGBT" discord server where the trans mods were trying to convince people, myself included, to BECOME DID or get "tulpas". And one by one more people would show off their new "multiple personalities." Not because they actually had them, but because of the pressure from the mods, they started roleplaying just so they could feel included.

And there are others, like ADHD, which pisses me off because I actually display symptoms of it (not diagnosed so I can't confirm) and it's not at all fun or "quirky", my every day life is impacted and if I was diagnosed with it (or any other disorder) I certainly wouldn't go to put it in my Twitter bio and talk about how cool it is to be "neurodivergent"

[–]MarkJeffersonRaga Shave 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is very thorough. Thank you!

These subs are the way they are now for a reason, and that's why I don't hang around in reddit bi subs. A person just wouldn't fit in well without some delusions or mental issues.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No problem, thank you for reading it!

Yeah, I did not realize r/bisexuals was so overrun as well; I ought to take a look over there for material to post. Do you feel like most sane bisexual spaces have been deleted from reddit? I heard there was a truebisexuals sub or something.

[–]MarkJeffersonRaga Shave 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Try *r/bisexual instead. I don't go there looking for the shallow uwu stuff though, but the needles in the haystack; And ever so often there's something good.

Yes, I would say most are gone. truebisexuals was not deleted, just privated; But I heard that killed off the activity anyway so might as well have been removed. Everyone there ended up on the discord eventually.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wow, that's an amazing post, thanks for sharing. I was actually more looking for censorship-related content to post here (I am not bisexual), but that kind of post would probably be appreciared here as well!

Didn't realize there was discord for truebisexuals. Perhaps some of the other banned subs have different backup sites as well.

[–]MarkJeffersonRaga Shave 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh sure, I understand; That post was not meant to be related to your searches. I only shared it to show why I still occasionally look in on some of these places even in spite of the state they are in nowadays. I'll keep an eye out though for material from/about Reddit that has to do with censorship and share it here too whenever I find it.

Frankly, the discord server has seen better days. I'm really ticked off at the reddit Admin for ever giving in to these intimidators and figuratively kneecapping the sub with an implied ban while it was well on the rise.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That totally makes sense. I'm so sorry you guys have lost your spaces too! We talk a lot about AL (and AGB to some extent) but the censorship has certainly not been limited to just gay men and lesbians.

[–]pacsatonifil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This fascinating and exactly what we all suspected