Colonization"Women have dicks" "Lesbians like sucking dick" Just repeat it over and over until you brainwash everybody or they leave.

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[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 35 insightful - 5 fun35 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I think I'm done with this sub, tbh.

If only more people could be like you in this respect then the world would be a better place.

People here will happily upvote "trans women are women" and similar sentiments, but ask for a bit of introspection about how the language they use can be alienating to other users and suddenly you're Orwellian dictators suppressing free speech.

This guy seems completely ignorant to how much censorship is occurring on this one page alone.

I truly can't imagine this community generating this much outrage over a desire to express their disgust for any other sort of women. Lesbians who aren't attracted to butch women manage to be tactful about it, lesbians who aren't attracted to fat women are more than polite, but apparently nuance becomes impossible when it comes to penises — "remember that some women here have dicks" is warped into "you cannot ever express a negative opinion about dicks".

The sea of red comments says otherwise. There is no tolerance of "nuance" at all.

But I see all the users here fighting for the right to deny trans women the expectation of considerate language, the right to carve out a little niche for us

An expectation is not a right either. But it's not inconsiderate to tell someone the truth. It is the most considerate language of all. Your niche does not belong in this sub.

the right to carve out a little niche for us as acceptable collateral damage of their dislike of men.

Anyone know what this last sentence means?

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I think the last sentence means that the men of AL are percieving the opinions of lesbians not wanting to have sex with men to mean that the lesbians are putting the men of AL in a category of priority below the lesbians' right to declare that they are not attracted to men or their sex organs.

The transwomen are accusing the lesbians of not caring about misgendering or "making blanket statements about penises" when it comes to being a lesbian and therefore not being attracted to men or penises

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    [–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 32 insightful - 6 fun32 insightful - 5 fun33 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

    removeddit link: https://archive.is/bVIK5

    archive link, of original post: https://archive.is/wnvz4

    edit: adding links/quotes

    Removed by the moderators of "actuallesbians":

    its not fair for you to say that lesbians can’t say they don’t like or want to have a relationship with someone who has a penis “ for whatever reason “. not liking penises is entirely valid especially in lesbian spaces

    ive thought long and hard about my argument. i’m not saying that trans woman aren’t woman but it’s hard to deny that most lesbians are aren’t attracted to penises. to say that we can’t express that we don’t like penises freely is taking out a sizeable chunk of the community.

    Why is it not valid for lesbians to not like dick? In what world do you exist in that it's ok to tell someone what they're attracted to isn't valid?

    I love the trans community with all my heart, but don't ever tell me what I can and cannot say on here. I do my best to try not to invalidate anyone on here and to be kind, but I am sick and tired of people policing each other down to the smallest of details just at the off chance of offending someone. If you are offended by my words, then you can approach me directly in a private message, any time and I will listen. But for now, I will post what I want, and 'hate' as well as 'like', what I want.

    How dare you? Lesbians have the right to talk about not liking dick. So many people hate us for not liking dick and this is the only place we feel comfortable talking about it. I noticed someone deleted a GREAT comment I was about to reply to and support. I’m also not trying to say I don’t like dick, cause I’m open to everyone. Also, don’t trash talk men just because you don’t happen to like them. They’re people too. Please stop.

    Absolutely. I don't seek out people with penises to tell them that I don't like their genitalia, but I also feel entitled to speak generally about my personal love of vulvas and dislike of penises in a lesbian space. I'm sorry that OP is uncomfortable, but no one's sexuality should be changed or disguised to validate anyone else. Everyday we ask women to change themselves and alter their boundaries to make other people more comfortable, but I refuse to do so in a space that's supposed to be free of that kind of nonsense.

    ^ bolded emphasis mine on that last comment. I'm sorry, my fellow vulva lover, "actuallesbians" is not a lesbian space. It's as much a space for lesbians as r/trees on Reddit is a space for trees (it's not, it's a subreddit for weed).

    [–][deleted] 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    God, it is really telling that that comment of all things was removed. You literally cannot be more pandering and respectful than that whilst still having boundaries, and yet it is STILL not good enough for the people infesting that subreddit.

    [–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Narcissists don't like other peoples' boundaries.

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    YUP. Exactly.

    [–]SillyMoneyGoose 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ulterior proof that they won’t be placated once lesbians are ‘kind’ expressing our dislike of dicks, they will only be okay once we stop saying to each other we only like women

    [–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 19 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Well, she said that lesbians especially should be allowed to share a distaste of penises, which implies that lesbians aren't supposed to like penis, which implies that women don't have penises. Therefore, she has been found guilty of wrongthink by the council of AL penis worshipers and shall be deleted

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 14 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

    It's as much a space for lesbians as r/trees on Reddit is a space for trees (it's not, it's a subreddit for weed).

    You can imagine my surprise when I went there wanting to ask a question about a tree outside my house.

    [–]fuck_reddit 25 insightful - 5 fun25 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

    Do people on AL actually make these posts anymore or are they just obsessively posting delusional rants about make believe posts?

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Comments, yes, but not posts AFAIK. The comments are removed relatively fast, so by the time some of the other "transbians" show up they are confused. There IS some resistance on AL, believe it or not; it's fascinating to watch, and it's partially hidden, but it's there. Check out the Removedit link I posted.

    Also-- I always downvote people who make comments promoting gender identity ideology, esp comments with 1 point or less. They are obsessed with talking about "TERFs" even though gender identity ideologists have already taken over that sub, lol. Seeing a few comments with 0 or -1 points tips some of them over the edge, hahaha.

    edit: Also remember: any post about vulva/vagina is perceived as "hatred towards dicks" so perhaps that is what these "transbians" are talking about.

    [–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you. That helps to explain some of it!

    [–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Also-- I always downvote people who make comments promoting gender identity ideology, esp comments with 1 point or less. They are obsessed with talking about "TERFs" even though gender identity ideologists have already taken over that sub, lol. Seeing a few comments with 0 or -1 points tips some of them over the edge, hahaha.

    This is called "chaotic good" LOL!

    [–]begonia_skies 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    The delusional part is most of these "transbians" wouldn't date "someone with a penis" themselves. I have zero issues with a MTF dating another MTF, I don't even care if they want to call themselves lesbians, as long as they leave me alone I don't care. But that is the exception rather than the norm, when they say "lesbians like sucking dick", what they mean is "they should like sucking my dick" not that they themselves would ever do that, so intrinsically they know the difference. Why is their sexuality allowed to be static but mine must remain fluid to fit their needs?

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I have zero issues with a MTF dating another MTF, I don't even care if they want to call themselves lesbians

    I have issues with it, because the majority of transitioners seek repeated external validation of their "womanhood" and if a "transbian" can exist and be a lesbian, then inevitably some number of them will try to pressure lesbians to date them as a form of validation of their womanhood.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nailed it.

    [–]begonia_skies 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I personally lend more towards the understanding there should and can be a degree of nuance allowed. You can say, no one but only biological women that solely date other biological women should get the title "lesbian" - and while I do agree with that, the trans population isn't going away, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube and the world is changing. My anger is pointed towards those you clearly highlighted in this post, the MTFs that shame lesbians, that invade spaces, that constantly beg for validation from lesbians like we are validation machines. Two consenting adult people that want to live their farce outside the realm of my reality, I don't really care, now if they push themselves into spaces and demand the center stage, that is a different conversation and not one and the same. While I don't personally love when they call themselves lesbians, arguing over semantics between ourselves isn't going to make a difference while the loudest MTFs bully themselves into more and more positions of trust.

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    and while I do agree with that, the trans population isn't going away, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube and the world is changing.

    I'm not sure I agree with that, though-- yes, paraphilias and autogynephilia will always be around, and yes, there will always be some very feminine men and some very masculine women. But the concept of transgender, itself, may well turn out to be a fad. History is littered with failed movements that no one talks about or remembers anymore because they weren't successful (except for the historians and nerds who talk about them, lol). The lobotomy movement in the early 1900s is one such example. It was widespread and massively impactful on culture at the time, and it's dead today.

    edit: But I am all for extending compassion towards trans people and villainizing them. Most trans people seem desperate for support and for their mental health issues to go away, and cult-like ideologies (gender identity ideology, and this case) prey on the desperate.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    paraphilias and autogynephilia will always be around, and yes, there will always be some very feminine men and some very masculine women. But the concept of transgender, itself, may well turn out to be a fad.

    Some trans activists do want to subsume feminine men and masculine women into transgender. However, I do not see any average person conceiving of the word as such. If I grab a random bloke off the street and say "transgender," they always take that to mean transsexual, because that is what the trans landscape is all about.

    No problem with paraphilias, including AGP, but that is something you should try to do in your own time, in the private sphere of your life, with consenting, adult partners. Plenty of people with paraphilias have no problem pulling that off. If AGP, which it sometimes can do, becomes such an impediment to being a functioning person that medical and social transition, under the auspices of an informed clinician, is the correct palliative care, then so be it.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube and the world is changing

    Time will tell. I think adolescent-onset/ROGD will go out of fashion, and will be the first to go. Of course, there will be some new outlet to replace trans. But, if anything can go back into Pandora's box, it's this one.

    HSTS never wanted this kind of attention; still doesn't.

    That leaves AGP. I think it'll stop being out-and-proud, masquerading as a thing it is not, both to the people who have it and the rest of everyone else. It won't be going away, but if society no longer entertains it, no longer considers validating it, or bends over backwards for it, then AGP won't want to take it to the public sphere as much.

    Trans only "came out" recently because the societal landscape was ready to "accept" trans. (Sarcasm: Thank you, gay rights movement.) That some degree of sufficient medical technology exists and is obtainable. The internet played a role, but it can play a new role educating freshly minted AGP and the general public about what AGP is.

    [–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    Everybody on the planet is made to feel bad about themselves, sometimes accidentally, sometimes intentionally. Almost everybody has to learn to manage their feelings about it, like adults, and put on a pair of slippers instead of stapling carpet to the ceiling.

    Except trans women of course, they should never be expected to exert the tiniest amount of effort or put up with a second of discomfort. Honestly, that's probably half the reason these lazy, entitled boys choose to transition: they think that people listen to women's tears (they don't) so they'll never have to do anything hard if they pass and act soft and wounded and helpless enough.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    and put on a pair of slippers instead of stapling carpet to the ceiling.

    What does this expression mean?

    [–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    It's easier to work on your own emotional resilience than to try to control the entire world around you and make everything so soft and harmless that nothing hurts.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Ah I see. Thanks!

    [–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I just looked it up and I totally paraphrased Al Franken, lol

    [–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Except trans women of course, they should never be expected to exert the tiniest amount of effort or put up with a second of discomfort. Honestly, that's probably half the reason these lazy, entitled boys choose to transition: they think that people listen to women's tears (they don't) so they'll never have to do anything hard if they pass and act soft and wounded and helpless enough.

    You hit the nail on the head. There is a subreddit, Transmaxxing, that is precisely about this. They literally admit to transitioning to have a softer life and "escape being beta males".

    [–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Dropping out of college and moving to California to chase the snowball-in-Hell's chance of never having to mop a bathroom floor again is for Olds. Pounding horse piss and jerking off on camera to attract a fuckmommy/daddy is where the big brains are. 😎

    [–]Rosefield 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Who is the gender loon talking to? Al is a transbian forum where 99% already believe this crap and the others are just there to laugh about the trans train wreck.

    [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

    I didn't even have to look to see what sub this was from. As a bi girl who loves dick I am offended there isn't a place to talk about dick hate. Can't have dick love without dick hate lmao. Seriously, I almost get off making these people fume lately. They love to quote me and love to block me. "wHy YoU oBseSseD wItH tRaNs TaKiNg yOuR sPaCeS tErF nAzI!!!"

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    As a bi girl who loves dick I am offended there isn't a place to talk about dick hate. Can't have dick love without dick hate lmao.

    Right? Can't have the dark without the light! Or whichever way around, lol.

    "wHy YoU oBseSseD wItH tRaNs TaKiNg yOuR sPaCeS tErF nAzI!!!"

    They devalue the word "Nazi" and I doubt any of the people liberally applying that word as an epithet have ever studied WWII or Jewish persecution in general... And if they mean "fascism" (I doubt most "transbian" even know what they are trying to convey when saying "nazi") then they ought to say that instead.

    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    As a bi girl who loves dick I am offended there isn't a place to talk about dick hate. Can't have dick love without dick hate lmao.

    You're a woman after my own heart :) Yeah: dick-devotion, dick-dissin'-- two sides of the same coin!

    And long may you make the dumbsses who don't get it fume!

    [–]chandra 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    God, these people are infuriating. They've outlawed any lesbian space that doesn't pander to trans people, and now they're getting triggered by a heavily trans-moderated sub whose official policy states uncompromisingly that all lesbians are attracted to trans women, just because some of few remaining actual lesbians aren't' sufficiently ashamed of not liking dick.

    [–]Rosefield 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

    whose official policy states uncompromisingly that all lesbians are attracted to trans women

    Al isn't real life and bullshit written there can't change reality. Al's autogynephiles turned Al into a trans-centric fantasy world where lesbians are lining up to date them but reality kicks them into their blue balls every time.

    [–]chandra 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Lol it does! Must be so frustrating. No matter how aggressively they police the community, in order to get real validation they're going to have to interact with lesbians eventually, and it's going to shatter their delusions every time.

    [–]Rosefield 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    And then they are running back to actualpenisbians and telling the dick worshipping crowd to worship their limp dicks more. Their het & bi bootlickers are then telling them every single time how much they love them and that lesbians looooove dicks soooo much. And when these men interact with lesbians again the same thing happens. A vicious cycle. 😂

    Penisbians are dumb as pigshit.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    No and no. Tell a lie long enough and eventually most people will believe it, because most people are sheep. But if people who see the truth band together in real life and actively resist the lie, then we can kick those liars to the curb.

    [–]turtleduck23 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    your point reminds me of my history teacher. when we were learning about nazi germany we couldn't believe how so many German's went along with it and a week later he came in and began talking about how the government lied about the moon landing and how the earth was flat, we were confused and when a student challenged his opinions he doubled down and even insulted her intelligence and nobody else questioned him.

    he apologized and said that what he did was what Hitler and other's did when they wanted to control their people. he made baseless claims and when challenged him he bullied until no one else questioned him. this is what TRA's are doing, they repeat their lies over and over and if you question you are bullied. what's sad is that now, many doctors and other professionals whose opinions you are suppose to trust are pushing this on people by posting articles about "pregnant men" and how trans women "experience period symptoms".

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I like your history teacher. I can see why people believe this trans crap, because other than the fact that a lot of people are sheep, a lot of other people are weak willed.

    [–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    your teacher sounds awesome

    [–]turtleduck23 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i meant to add that this was my former teacher (over ten yrs ago) when i was in school.

    [–]Constantine 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Someone posts this exact thing on that sub every week. It's become a circle jerk of itself.

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah lol, like there are obviously a few dissenters in the comments but it's funny to see all the "transbians" arguing with each other over what essentially amounts to a ghost.

    I think part of the confusion might be due to the fact that many transwomen perceive posts praising vaginas/vulvas as "dick hating" and transphobic.

    [–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, because of course everything must be about them, and if their dicks aren’t centered even in lesbian spaces, their fragile egos will come crashing down around them if they haven’t already. Hint: real women are, by and large, not this self-centered about their genitalia.

    [–]marmorsymphata 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    https://removeddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/kojipo/please_stop_equating_penises_to_men/

    The amount of removed comments and likely suspended accounts are going to peak an unfathomable number of lesbians today

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I hope so!! :) I need to find a good system for spreading the word about this sub, on reddit. Have you ever tried telling people about it?

    [–]marmorsymphata 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Nah I got permanently IP suspended from the entirety of reddit for some really basic posts about it being okay for lesbians to not like dick. It's so off the wall I'm not even sure what to say to the admins if I decide to appeal. The stupidest part is that the comment that cinched it for AL to run to the admits was me going stealth and saying maybe it's a bad idea to ban /r/BiologicalLesbians because it would lead to TERFs flooding back into AL and we don't want that.

    Very cool that these transbian shitstains hold this kind of power considering I'd recently started needing fucking /r/GriefSupport.

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Wowwwww. Good to know. I have been trying to think of ways to get involved on Reddit but am not sure how; I take some precautions already but want to get a stronger VPN.

    Very cool that these transbian shitstains hold this kind of power considering I'd recently started needing fucking /r/GriefSupport.

    I'm really sorry to hear that. Have you considered trying to get a VPN in order to use reddit? Or something that can do a proxy? Opera browser is not exactly a VPN but it might be able to help you bypass that. Also please feel free to post on s/lgbdropthet asking for support! And if you want to talk let me know :)

    [–]AlexisK 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Inasinty.

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So...they’re saying that lesbians aren’t valid unless we’re bisexual or heterosexual? That all we need is to date/be intimate with a man and then we’ll change our minds? Sounds familliar...

    [–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Look at the second most upvoted comment.

    Cis-women go their whole lives being told they've got to find a man or that the right dick will turn them straight. Imagine for a moment the rush of liberation when you finally affirm to yourself you don't like men and never will! It's got to be similar in power to the moment for us trans women when we finally say, "I'm a girl" to ourselves. That feeling of freedom is going to spill over in lesbian spaces, and it won't always be tactful about other genders. It is completely unsurprising that this sometimes looks like posts about not liking dicks.

    Sure the mods could crack down on it, but would you want them to? They'd be squashing a fellow lesbian's declaration of freedom. IMO the gender sensitivity stuff can be learned later, because in the moment that woman just needs to celebrate her self-acceptance and have her community rally around her.

    I say this as a pre-op transbian, so all those jokes apply to me too. Regardless, I still see those posts not as an attack on me, but as a declaration of freedom for that woman to live her fullest life.

    ...A "transbian" talking a small amount of sense and not screaming "transphobia"? Wowee. I'm surprised that's so highly upvoted on that sub (or any Reddit LGBT sub really.)

    [–]reluctant_commenter[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There is variability within every population; there will be some "reasonable"-sounding transbians to match the plenty who constantly talk about their "girldicks" and autogynephilic feelings.

    [–]No_ 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh but that comment was a made by a man so it’s okay! Only women can’t express their love for women.

    [–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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